7 Swordsmen of the Mist vs 6 Paths of Pain

[Nerosmoke]

Who would win in a fight betwine the 7 Swordsmen of the Mist and the 6 paths of pain.

I think the Swordsmen win.

 

[Edogawa]

Haku was much faster than every single member of the 7SOTM, and he got blocked by Base Rock Lee, and even Zabuza admitted Haku is stronger than him. All of the Paths are capable of dodging FRS with exception Gakido and Chikushodo, which moves on the same speed as Susanoo Arrow that Danzo and Kakashi who is as fast as 6 Gated Gai were not able to dodge and relied on Izanagi and Kamui instead.

Hidden Mist Jutsu would only succeed in blocking shared vision, but that won't be relevant simply because none of the 7SOTM have the speed to land a hit. If the mist blocked the Rinnegan vision, the path would simply Shunshin out of the mist's range.

Apart from Gakido, any Path could solo the swordsmen via speed-blitz and black rods. This matchup is unbalanced.

 

[Nerosmoke]

I mean Haku did have that page saying he was light speed. and I mean that is canon but he is not one of the 7 Swordsmen I am talking about. and some of the movement speed stuff you listed is a bit off.

What I am talking about here is the 7 Swordsmen of the Mist are stronger then the 6 paths of pain. by a mile. the only reason pain is a problem is Sage Naruto had to fight all 6 of them at one time, and the preta path. with the 7 Swordsmen they have the numbers advantage and half of them use swords that the preta path can do nothing about.

The Hidden Mist Jutsu vs shared vision

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^^^ why is that image so easy to find when the byakugan and sharigan ones are impossable.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

The seven swordsnen include kisame who had a seventh gate guy reaction island level durability, he is not going down with asura missiles by any means but even then; he pulls out fusion mode and tanks the otherwordly summoned missiles(as DB states) easily and if it contains chakra ,absorbs it and then regains a perfect body + stamina renewal. Other swordsmen include zabuza a master at silent killing, pain couldn't see through dust or smoke, let alone chakra infused mist, gets ripped in the get-go because of this jutsu, ST gets blocked by the mystical swords; aka spirit induced weapons while the ST is a Yin-yang + five nature transformation attack which doesn't compare to a spirit induce attack like the swordsman blades. Kisame cuts the gravity like force sheerly and the rest of the blades smear ominousness on the forces, BT is effective though; kisame shatters the path pulling him like every other swordsman will do when he reaches the spot.

Pain loses negative diff. CT can be countered with Shark missile, water dragon combo.

Seven swordsmen wins, and this was a bare one or two barely analysis; full on, they sh*t negative negative diff on pain arsenal.

 

[Nerosmoke]

The seven swordsnen include kisame who had a seventh gate guy reaction island level durability, he is not going down with asura missiles by any means but even then; he pulls out fusion mode and tanks the otherwordly summoned missiles(as DB states) easily and if it contains chakra ,absorbs it and then regains a perfect body + stamina renewal. Other swordsmen include zabuza a master at silent killing, pain couldn't see through dust or smoke, let alone chakra infused mist, gets ripped in the get-go because of this jutsu, ST gets blocked by the mystical swords; aka spirit induced weapons while the ST is a Yin-yang + five nature transformation attack which doesn't compare to a spirit induce attack like the swordsman blades. Kisame cuts the gravity like force sheerly and the rest of the blades smear ominousness on the forces, BT is effective though; kisame shatters the path pulling him like every other swordsman will do when he reaches the spot.

Pain loses negative diff. CT can be countered with Shark missile, water dragon combo.

Seven swordsmen wins, and this was a bare one or two barely analysis; full on, they sh*t negative negative diff on pain arsenal.

and Preta paths get a axe to the face.

 

[New Dawn]

With Kisame, they can win. Leaning towards Pein tho cuz the other 6 are borderline fodder.

 

[MightGai]

Seriously, the only useful pain is deva, and maybe preta, the rest are barely average nins which excel at killing fodder, and that's it.

 

[Antdog]

Deva path solos

 

[Nerosmoke]

With Kisame, they can win. Leaning towards Pein tho cuz the other 6 are borderline fodder.

Went you in the other thread. what part of strongest in the village and unlimited chakra did you not understand.

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[New Dawn]

Went you in the other thread. what part of strongest in the village and unlimited chakra did you not understand.

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So whatif u have unlimited chakra? Deva crushes u like a bug.

 

[EZQ]

Seriously, the only useful pain is deva, and maybe preta, the rest are barely average nins which excel at killing fodder, and that's it.

Lol animal path is kage level.

Jinin solos

 

[Nerosmoke]

So whatif u have unlimited chakra? Deva crushes u like a bug.

So the main reasion why the paths of pain are a problem is the preta path that does nothing to axe to the face and the Deva path that has all the cool jutsus.

That being said there is a part with the Deva path destroyed other paths with almighty push. this and the scenario in the rain village where pain was unwilling to wipe out his own village to do a attack.

So here are some scenarios to look at.

scenario 1 leaf village pain used so much of his chakra he is unable to use the push again
scenario 2 rain village pain is unwilling to wipe out his home.
scenario 3 if the other paths are standing around the Deva path.

in most of these cases the push can't be used. and has a timer before it can be used again. Naruto was able to tank many of these attacks with ease.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Animal path solo
Asura solo
deva stomps
absroning man gets destroyed
the mind reader is stomped
the guy that summons the gate of hell die

 

[Nerosmoke]

Animal path bird is solo'd by Thunder Gates.
Asura is solo'd by Kisame like Naruto did.
deva is stomped by 7 v 1 match the fight turns out to be.
absroning man gets Axe to the face
the mind reader guy is crucified
the guy that summons the gate of hell is solo'd by Konohamaru

I fixed it for ya.

 

[Edogawa]

I mean Haku did have that page saying he was light speed. and I mean that is canon but he is not one of the 7 Swordsmen I am talking about. and some of the movement speed stuff you listed is a bit off.

Haku is stronger and faster than all of the 7 Swordsmen. Zabuza admitted inferiority to him. Why should I believe you over Zabuza? Not a single speed I listed was wrong. Each of them is canon.

-4 out of 6 Pain > FRS in speed.
-FRS = Susanoo Arrow in speed.
-FRS > Kakashi who is as fast as 6 Gated Gai in speed.

Haku is much faster than all of the 7 Swordsmen by feats and portrayal. Base Rock Lee blocked his Ice Mirror.

What I am talking about here is the 7 Swordsmen of the Mist are stronger then the 6 paths of pain. by a mile. the only reason pain is a problem is Sage Naruto had to fight all 6 of them at one time, and the preta path. with the 7 Swordsmen they have the numbers advantage and half of them use swords that the preta path can do nothing about.

-SM Naruto shits on the 7 Swordsmen.
-Deve Path with only speed and black rods stomps them. Won't need BT or ST.
-Asura Path nukes them.
-Human Path blitzes them.
-Naraka Path blitzes them.
-Animal Path overwhelms with barrage summons.

7 Swordsmen are Jonin level, whereas one path is a Kage level. There are tiers to this.

^^^ why is that image so easy to find when the byakugan and sharigan ones are impossable.

You can't assassinate someone who is so much faster than you.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

FRS speed is over-hyped. FRS is not fast as Susanoo arrow. Sasuke clearly said he was adjusting the speed to Naruto's FRS to make it a combined attack. Or at least it was implied.

Pain only has the reaction speed = FRS speed, not foot speed. The only time deva dodged FRS was when naruto purposefully planned it to be so, to trick deva and the second FRS which curved from his blindspot, deva already knew beforehand that it was coming from behind him. So it was naruto's trickery and purposeful helping of deva to enable him to dodge it.

I hate it when people take it out of context and make it a speed feat. SM Naruto wrecked Asura path no difficulty, asura and deva are the fastest ones out there and maybe ningendo has the fastest reaction speed.
Otherwise, deva would've dodged Kakashi's attacks withoit spamming Shinra tensei and wasting his life-force like hell. Which means he don't have the speed or reaction to even dodge kakashi's lightning kunai coming from underground or his lightning wolf or even raikiri of an airborne-no foothold-kakashi without shared vision.

So no speed feats which say deva or the other paths can even dodge zabuza's attacks which outran the sharingan precognition which kept up with 5th gate lee. Not only that kisame has 7th gate reaction and island level durability.

The swordmen have every counter to every attack of pain. Swordsman trashes pain arsenal.

Haku's needles are light-speed. It was a big ass nerf on haku as even kakashi admitted haku was stronger than him and also zabuza admitted haku was stronger than him, its clear that haku was nerfed or she held back because of her character. Imagine that kakashi had a precognition on the level of 5th gate lee, so haku is far above that speed which I wonder pain even is near to that 5th gate level speed.

 

[Nerosmoke]

I am new here I don't know what the **** FRS speed is that being said,

Obito is fast enough to keep up with Minatio

Kakashi is as fast a 6th gate guy.

Kakashi can fight on part with Obito.

Zabuza was faster then Kakashi who is about on par with Obito who was slower then Minato.

 

[Edogawa]

I am new here I don't know what the **** FRS speed is that being said,.

Then you need to learn from older members with experience instead of trying to defend a poor argument for the sake of defending it. I don't understand why it's hard to comprehend this.

Any Path apart from Gakido solos the entire 7 Swordsmen with just speed, because none of them can react to someone who moves faster than FRS.

Obito is fast enough to keep up with Minatio

Off-topic but nope, Minato blitzed Obito casually.

Kakashi is as fast a 6th gate guy.

This is correct. Kakashi and 6 Gate Gai are much faster than all of the 7 Swordsmen, but they're slower than 6POP.

Kakashi can fight on part with Obito.

Irrelevant.

Zabuza was faster then Kakashi who is about on par with Obito who was slower then Minato.

:lol Nope.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Minato never casually blitzed tobi, it was tobi doing the blitzing. Minato himself admitted tobi countered all his moves and was a very damgerous shinobi, tobi reflexes >>> minato speed and reflexes.

 

[Nerosmoke]

Then you need to learn from older members with experience instead of trying to defend a poor argument for the sake of defending it. I don't understand why it's hard to comprehend this.

Any Path apart from Gakido solos the entire 7 Swordsmen with just speed, because none of them can react to someone who moves faster than FRS.

I think you need to show your homework so new members can see what you are talking about. that being said speed it not always the same Kakashi can keep up with 6 gate guy. that I agree with. (countering with Sharigan precog/reactions)

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That being said the Hidden Mist counters the Dojutsu reaction speed.

Off-topic but nope, Minato blitzed Obito casually.

Casually? he even said he had to put everything he had to be less then a second faster then Obito. and then he died.

This is correct. Kakashi and 6 Gate Gai are much faster than all of the 7 Swordsmen, but they're slower than 6POP.

Guy with the 8 gates or Kakashi with precog. Kisame and Kushimaru show this.

Irrelevant.

How so? Unless you are tying to say pain is faster then Obito.

:lol Nope.

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lol yes . you can tell Zabuza is stronger then Guy based on how far he kicked Kakashi.