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Well then why did he not say anything about her being the Juubi, or BZ, and let BZ live for years?



He apparently didn't know about the Juubi being a part of Kaguya, and had told Naruto and Sasuke to seal the Juubi with the Yin and Yang seals. Yet now knows of their defeating his mother? That's not very consistent.. Lol
From Naruto stating they wanted to seal the Juubi. :sweat:
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So you don't think that Hagoromo was able to sense Kaguya after his appearance? Or even to realize that she was trying to come back?
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So you don't think that Hagoromo was able to sense Kaguya after his appearance? Or even to realize that she was trying to come back?
Your confusion has been cleared.
That would be logical, however he didn't seem at all bothered, confused or even surprised by her appearance. "The power to seal Mother", it's the same seal that they wanted to seal the Juubi, so that doesn't make it clear if Hagoromo knew that the Juubi was apart of Kaguya.

maybe he did know. he wasn't very surprised she came back.
I find it weird that he wasn't surprised, or worried.
 

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That would be logical, however he didn't seem at all bothered, confused or even surprised by her appearance. "The power to seal Mother", it's the same seal that they wanted to seal the Juubi, so that doesn't make it clear if Hagoromo knew that the Juubi was apart of Kaguya.



I find it weird that he wasn't surprised, or worried.
Well he is after all,




a "god"
Hagoromo already made up his mind, he wants/wanted to stop Kaguya, his mother or not, he wont let Kaguya have her way. Like i said, he is probably up to date about the current situation, he did come out of Madara's lower body that was cut off.

About the Ten Tails, Hagoromo also would have known that Madara was a Jinchuuriki, hence the Tailed Beasts extraction.
 

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Well then why did he not say anything about her being the Juubi, or BZ, and let BZ live for years?



He apparently didn't know about the Juubi being a part of Kaguya, and had told Naruto and Sasuke to seal the Juubi with the Yin and Yang seals. Yet now knows of their defeating his mother? That's not very consistent.. Lol
He is the one who sealed her mother along with his brother... He knew that much pretty well.
 

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Well he is after all,
a "god"
Hagoromo already made up his mind, he wants/wanted to stop Kaguya, his mother or not, he wont let Kaguya have her way. Like i said, he is probably up to date about the current situation, he did come out of Madara's lower body that was cut off.

About the Ten Tails, Hagoromo also would have known that Madara was a Jinchuuriki, hence the Tailed Beasts extraction.
Yeah, he knew about Madara being the Juubi Jinchuuriki, he was "trying to get close to his mother's power". Hagoromo isn't literally a god; he is perceived as such, and labelled one. Before he was asking Naruto to stop Madara, now all of a sudden he knows Kaguya, was back (Likely from sensing her presence, but he shouldn't bbe capable through Dimension, but that barrier is questionable what with souls coming back lately. But, still, he didn't question at all where the Juubi was, or Kaguya, despite not ever saying the Juubi was apart of her, or that he talked about them separately.

was hago just expecting madara to be cut in half? if that didnt happen how could he come out to help? .............
I don't know, he probably figured that he could appear after Naruto talked to, or defeated Madara.

He is the one who sealed her mother along with his brother... He knew that much pretty well.
I know, but he sealed the Juubi in himself, but they sealed Kaguya separately. That in itself is inconsistent, especially when the Bijuu were seemingly created when Hagoromo was old. He also spoke of Kaguya and the Juubi as completely different entities, despite the fact that the Juubi is apart of Kaguya and he himself stated that the Juubi was a product of the Shinju. BZ also confirmed that Hagoromo didn't know the complete truth, nor about himself.
 

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was hago just expecting madara to be cut in half? if that didnt happen how could he come out to help? .............
Your going to have to ask the author of the manga why he did it that way, and not me, that is if u were replying to me.
Best anwser i can give u is: plot.

Yeah, he knew about Madara being the Juubi Jinchuuriki, he was "trying to get close to his mother's power". Hagoromo isn't literally a god; he is perceived as such, and labelled one. Before he was asking Naruto to stop Madara, now all of a sudden he knows Kaguya, was back (Likely from sensing her presence, but he shouldn't bbe capable through Dimension, but that barrier is questionable what with souls coming back lately. But, still, he didn't question at all where the Juubi was, or Kaguya, despite not ever saying the Juubi was apart of her, or that he talked about them separately.
I put "god" is quotes for a reason.
And that's why it sucks to read fan-translated chapters. (If u can, provided viz scans of those pages.)
Anyways, Madara transformed into Kaguya back in their own world, then she teleported them to the "fire/lava/whatever world/dimension, Hagoromo could've sense her there and then. And sensing others via "Yin and Yang connection" throught dimensions, is possible.

@ The last part i.e. bold and underlined.
Idk what u mean by that, but the manga isnt over yet.
 
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I put "god" is quotes for a reason.
And that's why it sucks to read fan-translated chapters. (If u can, provided viz scans of those pages.)
Anyways, Madara transformed into Kaguya back in their own world, then she teleported them to the "fire/lava/whatever world/dimension, Hagoromo could've sense her there and then. And sensing others via "Yin and Yang connection" throught dimensions, is possible.

@ The last part i.e. bold and underlined.
Idk what u mean by that, but the manga isnt over yet.
Yeah, I guess. hmm

I mean, he knew that his mother was back, but also never brought up the Juubi again despite it being the original threat with Madara. I find that strange, like he knows more then he told Naruto and Sasuke. For example: He had said that the Juubi was a product of the Shinju.
 

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if juubi is from the shinju as he said he knew, i assume kaguya was absorbing it or was sealed in the shinju when she did her IT. he never mentioned what happened to her after her IT.
 

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Your going to have to ask the author of the manga why he did it that way, and not me, that is if u were replying to me.
Best anwser i can give u is: plot.


I put "god" is quotes for a reason.
And that's why it sucks to read fan-translated chapters. (If u can, provided viz scans of those pages.)
Anyways, Madara transformed into Kaguya back in their own world, then she teleported them to the "fire/lava/whatever world/dimension, Hagoromo could've sense her there and then. And sensing others via "Yin and Yang connection" throught dimensions, is possible.

@ The last part i.e. bold and underlined.
Idk what u mean by that, but the manga isnt over yet.
Why couldn't he sense it was his mother that attacked him and his brother, then?
 
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Yeah, I guess. hmm

I mean, he knew that his mother was back, but also never brought up the Juubi again despite it being the original threat with Madara. I find that strange, like he knows more then he told Naruto and Sasuke. For example: He had said that the Juubi was a product of the Shinju.
Weird, didnt Madara absorb the God Tree after he became the Ten Tails' Jinchuuriki.
But after all, the Jinchuuriki was the problem and not the Ten Tails
Why couldn't he sense it was his mother that attacked him and his brother, then?
Because
Kaguya =/= Ten Tails/God Tree.
She was merely connected to them
 
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I think people should differ between character statement and factual statement. What Black Zetsu said about the Juubi's creation and Hagoromo's ignorance of the truth, is nothing more than his point of view. We never actually heard what Hagoromo's point of view in regards to Black Zetsu's existence and Juubi's true purpose. However, the last chapter did show he knew about Black Zetsu.​
 
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Plus, it's said that that she was sealed by her sons.
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Yes, of course, Kaguya and the Ten Tails sealing were different incidents (unlike the semi-current situation) and obviously different seals and/or different outcomes.
The first time sealing on Kaguya was probably use to stop her and seal her away, it is still unknown how and what happened.
But the second sealing, separated the tailed beasts from the gedo statue (kaguya) and then the gedo statue (kaguya) from Madara, after the gedo statue (kaguya) became the core of a new moon.
I think people should differ between character statement and factual statement. What Black Zetsu said about the Juubi's creation and Hagoromo's ignorance of the truth, is nothing more than his point of view. We never actually heard what Hagoromo's point of view in regards to Black Zetsu's existence and Juubi's true purpose. However, the last chapter did show he knew about Black Zetsu.​
Yes, there isn't just one point of view.
This is too confusing...

Seriously... HELP
Lol kind of.
What i think it is, is that Hagoromo "somehow" knew Kaguya was to be sealed, but the Yin and Yang Seals where just for the Ten Tails and/or its Jinchuuriki
 
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