655: Minato used FTG, not Shunshin

[Touken]

I'd just like to make it clear that I'm not downplaying Minato here at all.

Minato probably had a seal on Kakashi but my main point is that he used FTG and not Shunshin here:

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First of all, I'd like to point out that there are no streak lines to indicate movement here:

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He simply just appeared to where Kakashi was whereas when the Hokage used Shunshin to get to the battlefield their stance was completely different to Minato's in 655 and their stance indicated they used foot speed. They also had streak lines.

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This is gonna sound a little weird but it still supports my claim; whenever someone uses Shunshin or foot speed the same black/white lines appear:

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Now, whenever Minato uses FTG, different black/white lines appear:

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Uses FTG to send the Juubidama to the ocean

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And finally in chapter 655, bottom left-hand panel

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It also doesn't make sense for anyone who isn't Juubito to cover such a massive distance instantly.

 

[Multiply]

There was only his hand in the panel. How many black lines did you expect to see? Even if you're basing this all off black lines, Kakashi was stabbing Obito, why would there be lines? Simply because the black lines don't mean shunshin. They're used for more simpler terms, such as movement. Either way, there was no seal on Kakashi(that we know of) and the only way he could have used FTG on him, was if Kakashi still had the kunai Minato gave him. If I'm not mistaken, however, he lost it.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

FTG makes dust smoke pop up.

Minato used shushin to get up here:

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FTG makes smoke:

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and in anime it makes lines.

 

[Shura]

After the Bijū were removed from Obito, he returned to his old body which happens to have a Hiraishin marking on it so yes, Minato most likely did use Hiraishin.​

 

[Kαmi]

Hm, I really doubt Kishi will go through the effort to indicate body flicker or FTG by lines, I don't buy it. Even if he did, when Minato first appears, all we see is his hand. Then we see his full body so of course see any movement there cause he's already there. Also, I don't think Kakashi has that FTG kunai anymore, I don't think he keeps it on him anymore. And since we're talking Minato, the fast ninja alive with a BM cloak, it makes sense for him to cover so much distance so quickly, it's the kinda thing we should expect from the fastest ninja.

 

[Bronze]

Exactly, he used FTG.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

There was only his hand in the panel. How many black lines did you expect to see? Even if you're basing this all off black lines, Kakashi was stabbing Obito, why would there be lines? Simply because the black lines don't mean shunshin. They're used for more simpler terms, such as movement. Either way, there was no seal on Kakashi(that we know of) and the only way he could have used FTG on him, was if Kakashi still had the kunai Minato gave him. If I'm not mistaken, however, he lost it.

Plus rep.

Assuming he has minato's kunai, and that there are no lines (u killed me with this in your comment) is retarded.
That's all speculation, he would have noticfied Kakashi that he warped to the kunai like he did Obito.

If he wouldn't have. Why would he notify the enemy and not his comrade?

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[jorgelius]

i understand why u believe what you trying to prove, but you have nothing solid to go on. it was shunsin minato is known for his speed and mastery of high speed movement without FTG manga tells kakashi didnt have marking otherwise he could follow kakashi to kamui dimension

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first minato absorb huge amount of chakra

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then he can move very high speed due kyuuubi, that pic was naruto's first try and same picture tells minato is expert in that area

 

[Kαmi]

After the Bijū were removed from Obito, he returned to his old body which happens to have a Hiraishin marking on it so yes, Minato most likely did use Hiraishin.​

But Minato said the mark disappeared? Can a mark like FTG disappear and come back? Also, Obito basically looks like he's in the same form as before when he first got the Juubi so I don't see how the mark would be on him.

 

[deadp00l]

lol, is all i hve to say

After the Bijū were removed from Obito, he returned to his old body which happens to have a Hiraishin marking on it so yes, Minato most likely did use Hiraishin.​

logic doesnt make sense as obito is still a jinchuriki minus the bijuus

 

[Touken]

FTG makes dust smoke pop up.

Minato used shushin to get up here:

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FTG makes smoke:

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and in anime it makes lines.

Not all the time, check out the 2nd & 3rd scan from 'Now, whenever Minato uses FTG, different black/white lines appear:'.

Hm, I really doubt Kishi will go through the effort to indicate body flicker or FTG by lines, I don't buy it.

He doesn't just do it for FTG & Shunshin, I'm pretty sure he does it for all techniques.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

After the Bijū were removed from Obito, he returned to his old body which happens to have a Hiraishin marking on it so yes, Minato most likely did use Hiraishin.​

That doesn't make sense, I'm not against you guys, I go with what's right.

I'm trying to see if Tobirama's seal plays a part, but that doesn't seem right either because the flesh Tobirama used his seal on was the flesh of the juubi....which got pealed off before he hit the ground.

So, there's no evidence, it was shunshin.

 

[NarutoIndra]

How does this disprove anything? I fail to see how the scenarios you displayed would match up to each other.. His hand was the only thing that was shown to stop the hand, and there's clearly many different lines in that, where one is in all directions while the other is a diagonal line from up right to down left of the panel. All scans you displayed had only shown black lines to the direction they were hitting or moving. On the other hand, Kakashi's is nothing like that.. More so, you can see the blank lines proceed to the point where they seem to be covering Minato's hand as well, signifying him having shushin'd there. I would also like to point out that in the scan with Minato and Kakashi from a further point of view, there's no streak lines because motion has alreadys stopped, unless you are suggesting you can distinguish motion between panels, as Kishi is obviously suggesting there is none by that point. Anyways, this doesn't matter, as long as nothing in the manga suggests Kakashi was marked with FTG, there's no reason to assume so. You cans tay in denial if you will, doesn't change the fact your evidence ins't sufficient enough.

 

[ShisuiReborn]

Honestly, does it really matter? Either way, he moved extremely fast and stopped Kakashi. I feel that if he used shunshin thats helping the Minato fans even more by saying hes that damn fast even without FTG. It really doesnt matter.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Not all the time, check out the 2nd & 3rd scan from 'Now, whenever Minato uses FTG, different black/white lines appear:'.

He doesn't just do it for FTG & Shunshin, I'm pretty sure he does it for all techniques.

What does that mean, that completely mind flucked me lol. Please post the scan that you're talking about.

 

[Ahmed1993]

Only fapboys would deny this U_U

 

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Only fapboys would deny this U_U

*Looks at your avatar*
*Looks at your sig*

Yeah...

 

[Touken]

That doesn't make sense, I'm not against you guys, I go with what's right.

I'm trying to see if Tobirama's seal plays a part, but that doesn't seem right either because the flesh Tobirama used his seal on was the flesh of the juubi....which got pealed off before he hit the ground.

So, there's no evidence, it was shunshin.

The only reason why Minato's mark disappeared on Juubito was because he had a new body, he didn't make the seal disappear at will, if he could then he would have done that to Tobirama's seal.

What does that mean, that completely mind flucked me lol. Please post the scan that you're talking about.

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No smoke.

 

[roncato]

Hm, I really doubt Kishi will go through the effort to indicate body flicker or FTG by lines, I don't buy it. Even if he did, when Minato first appears, all we see is his hand. Then we see his full body so of course see any movement there cause he's already there. Also, I don't think Kakashi has that FTG kunai anymore, I don't think he keeps it on him anymore. And since we're talking Minato, the fast ninja alive with a BM cloak, it makes sense for him to cover so much distance so quickly, it's the kinda thing we should expect from the fastest ninja.

He explained it all.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

The only reason why Minato's mark disappeared on Juubito was because he had a new body, he didn't make the seal disappear at will, if he could then he would have done that to Tobirama's seal.

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No smoke.

THE SEAL DID DISAPPEAR BECAUSE OF THAT!
If it didn't then he would of had no problem warping to him. I know he didn't, the Juubi did...disappear means gone. Tobirama marked the Juubi's new skin, but it pealed off so there isn't a FTG link at all.

Yup...you just made your own thread look like a fail...in the second scan there were lines lmao!

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