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Who Thinks This is Possible???

after being found under the rock, madara rescued him and with his new zetsu technology of combing the 1st dna that the real madara got in their fight he restored half of obitos body.

with the restored obito madara now had a pupil. obito was already weak and forgotten by the village so he had no where to go and madara like he did to everyone else manipulated the restored obito to think that he could be strong. madara trained him and slowly obito took on madaras traits. one day obito somehow killed madara (like sasuke did oro) and obito now took on the name/role of madara becoming "the shell of his former self"

obito took over madaras eye, the moons eye plan and zetsus. obito/tobi now had everything that the original madara collected. tobi used the ball/chain weapon but when he finally got rinnegan he went with the true madaras weapon of fan.

 

[looking 4 name]

best obito theory but still not obito XD

 

[~Puppet Master~]

Wasn't Madara long dead by then?

And if Obito killed him, why are they working together now?

 

[two fates]

possible..
but i still think that its someone else using obitos eyes

 

[Konomarii]

Seems possible :I I never actually expected him to be Obito xD Naruto is still full of surprises.

 

[OfficialKurama]

you deserve a grammy.. i always believed it was obito but never could think of any valid ways because of his age..

 

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Wasn't Madara long dead by then?

And if Obito killed him, why are they working together now?

to get his eyes
and madara was supposed to be reveved by pain
later on remember?

 

[KevinPJH]

It is not Obito. Might be his eyes, but it is not Obito...

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

idk....just gotta wait man

 

[Kikki]

possible..
but i still think that its someone else using obitos eyes

Same here. As we all know Kishi, Tobi being Obito is simply too simple. It would mean his identity is already revealed without a twist or a big bang. I'm 100% sure that he wants to surprise the fans with something special and interesting. That's probably the only reason why I don't believe it's Obito.

 

[Delta]

if tobi is obito then explain how he manipulated the 4th mizukage before he was accually born??

 

[Kikki]

But who is the person who was Edo Madara before then? And why was Tobi afraid of said person when Kabuto showed him the coffin? So many open questions that keep us awake. And more importantly, why would Madara want to destroy the Uchiha clan with Itachi?

 

[Trendy]

But who is the person who was Edo Madara before then? And why was Tobi afraid of said person when Kabuto showed him the coffin? So many open questions that keep us awake. And more importantly, why would Madara want to destroy the Uchiha clan with Itachi?

wait what? it was madara
he didnt die to the first like people the story went because
after that fight he unlocked the renn you cant fake your death
then let everyone know your still alive ROFL
and its already known madara doesnt like the clan for
making a truths with the senju's he killed his brother for the war
then they just wanted to end it

 

[Ekusas Strength]

Yes,obito is tobi!

 

[Trendy]

you deserve a grammy.. i always believed it was obito but never could think of any valid ways because of his age..

thx xD haha

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

I don't think so

 

[Trendy]

well untill it is unvaled this is what i believe

 

[Itachi1984]

I feel this is the best theory, but I would argue it is a little different.

Tobi = (part of) Madara with Obito's body, fixed with the help of Zetsu.

Here is how it goes. In the Battle with Hashirama Madara almost died, somehow the Rinnegan saved him. But he was weak, in no condition to fight anymore. So he goes away, searching for away to return. In that times with the cells of Hashirama he creates Zetsu, or improves him...

Since Madara is to weak to use the Rinnegan he decides to give them away to young Nagato (Tobi explicitly states this to Nagato's help Konan), who is being trained by the legendary Sannin Jirayaia. Madara know this is the way to develop the Rinnegan, so that in time he can be revived by it. But before he does so he needs other eyes. So together with Zetsu (he that is one with the land) finds Obito. A weak almost dead Uchiha, one he can defeat even in his (Madara's) weak state. Now here comes to tricky part I think that somehow he transferred part of his soul / chakra / skills into the body of Obito, and likewise gaining his eye ability. The broken body than got fixed by Zetsu. How the transfer went is vague but this is very likely (I mean Oro can do it), why: for two reason In the beginning Tobi only has one eye, ofc because Kakashi has the other. Also, in the recent episode where Tobi got hit, on the RIGHT side, the side that was crushed by the ROCKS (remember OBITO) you see some white skin. Ofc that is the side ZETSU fixed.

Furthermore: the combination of Zetsu and Madara makes it possible that he fights Minato and knows all these things about everyone, cause in the end he is Madara. But as Itachi has put it: A shell of his former self!

Dont you think it makes sense, in the end I will it seems quite obvious even! One last thing, Edo Madara talks about our little plan!

 

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i do belive that half of his body is zetsu because we have seen
it get blown off and ripped off( agianst minato and konan) and its pale white
but then later he has his appendagens back

 

[TheJokerXIII]

Here's what I think:
1. Tobi is going to to be revealed as Obito.
2. Tobi's/Obito's past will be revealed (like how every other Naruto characters past gets revealed before they die or on the verge of death or verbally.)
3. He will tell his true reason why he wants the world to be shrouded in the Dream of Infinite Tsukuyomi. (I think it's because of Rin. Obito loved her. But she loved Kakashi which explains his attitude towards Kakashi. He wants to create an illusion as if Rin loved him. Tobi's intentions aren't all that bad. He wants to create a world "where heroes don't have to make pitiful excuses in front of graves" meaning no grieving.) (Quote as read in Naruto Manga 597 Page #17)
4. Why would the original Naruto Manga end showing Kakashi's past with Obito, and Rin?