[Discussion] 50 Most Powerful One Piece Characters

[A v i]

Being the strongest in impel down means he's stronger than every and any level six prisoner including the guy that cut Z's arm and made him his *****. The shichibukai was in Impel Down when Luffy broke in.

Really? Where did this logic came from? Lol He's admirals level even though pre-TS Luffy forced him to use his ultimate move?

I don't know much about this 7th war lord and I don't remember anyone saying that 7th shichibukai was in impel down. I'd appreciate it if you provide that scan.

Well... Not like Kuzan could've killed Doffy with two attacks if he wanted to or anything.

I don't get what you are trying to imply here.

"You guys possibly killed my beloved horse, I'll make you pay! But then again I don't want to mess up my hair..."
That is a pretty desperate excuse you've come up with.

Anyone with good eyes can understand the fact that he's being super careful. He was even just standing there in front of Gladius and watching him without doing shit when he was preparing his attack and you are telling me that he's fighting without thinking about his beauty?

Punc Super Arena had a larger range than Fashion Punc. Any proof that the fodders that were hit by Gladius's explosions survived them?

I figured you'd say something like this.For starts, the impact of his attack was totally covered by Barto's barrier.Lol You can see fodders being defeated by Hakuba here {

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LOL so? Pre-GL Zoro's Ichimonji withstood Mihawk's slash, I guess Pre-GL Zoro had Haki.

Zoro put his Ichimonji in his mouth so Mihawk's blade never touched it to began with. Besides, I don't think Mihawk was using haki back then. Cavendish condition was completely different from that of Zoro. Cavendish put his sword against Chinjao's head and managed to hold him in the middle air for a while. His sword would have broken if it wasn't imbued with haki.

 

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Really? Where did this logic came from? Lol He's admirals level even though pre-TS Luffy forced him to use his ultimate move?

OMFG that's not what I'm saying you moron hahahahahahaha

I'm saying he can make a ***** out of the guy who made Z his *****. Isn't that enough proof?

I don't know much about this 7th war lord and I don't remember anyone saying that 7th shichibukai was in impel down. I'd appreciate it if you provide that scan.

It's because it's not mentioned in the Manga, Oda mentioned it in an SBS... two SBS's actually
-we know he's male
-we know we haven't seen him
-we know he teamed up with the Blackbeard Pirates to leave the prison
-we know he's the pirate Z hates the most as the one who cut off his arm and killed his comrades

I don't get what you are trying to imply here.

I'm implying that:

Doflamingo can in theory be two shotted by an Admiral.
The 7th Shichibukai had previously defeated an Admiral (he was weakened due to old age though).
Magellan as the stronger than this ex-Admiral beating Warlord as the strongest man in the prison

 

[A v i]

OMFG that's not what I'm saying you moron hahahahahahaha

I'm saying he can make a ***** out of the guy who made Z his *****. Isn't that enough proof?

Why are you getting mad? I am just asking you to tell me where you get this "He can make a *** out of the guy that made Z his ***" logic.Lol

It's clear to me from his battle with Luffy that he's not on the same level as an admiral. His comat abilities aren't that great. I don't think BB and co would have managed to escape impel down if he was as strong as an admiral. It took just one hit for Akainu to beat Iva where as it took him a while to do it which again proves that he's below admirals.

It's because it's not mentioned in the Manga, Oda mentioned it in an SBS... two SBS's actually
-we know he's male
-we know we haven't seen him
-we know he teamed up with the Blackbeard Pirates to leave the prison
-we know he's the pirate Z hates the most as the one who cut off his arm and killed his comrades.

I want you to tell me in which volume did Oda mentioned those points.

I'm implying that:

Doflamingo can in theory be two shotted by an Admiral.

Bases for that theory?

He escaped from Kuzan's Ice which is something even Jozu couldn't do and Fujitora's meteors failed to do crap against Bird cage. He effortlessly countered Fujitora's attacks and he was in the same place as Fuji and Law while Fujitora was attacking Law and took no damage from those attacks which proves that he's strong enough to battle an admiral. He's prepared to face Fujitora and even attacked him which proves that he isn't scared of facing admirals. He isn't getting two shotted by any admiral not in OP manga.

The 7th Shichibukai had previously defeated an Admiral (he was weakened due to old age though).
Magellan as the stronger than this ex-Admiral beating Warlord as the strongest man in the prison

Addressed these points above.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Really? Where did this logic came from? Lol He's admirals level even though pre-TS Luffy forced him to use his ultimate move?

I don't know much about this 7th war lord and I don't remember anyone saying that 7th shichibukai was in impel down. I'd appreciate it if you provide that scan.




I don't get what you are trying to imply here.



Anyone with good eyes can understand the fact that he's being super careful. He was even just standing there in front of Gladius and watching him without doing shit when he was preparing his attack and you are telling me that he's fighting without thinking about his beauty?


I figured you'd say something like this.For starts, the impact of his attack was totally covered by Barto's barrier.Lol You can see fodders being defeated by Hakuba here {

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Zoro put his Ichimonji in his mouth so Mihawk's blade never touched it to began with. Besides, I don't think Mihawk was using haki back then. Cavendish condition was completely different from that of Zoro. Cavendish put his sword against Chinjao's head and managed to hold him in the middle air for a while. His sword would have broken if it wasn't imbued with haki.

1. He wasn't watching Gladius, he was getting ready to strike at him.
2. So? Those are different fodders. It's not like his Punc Rock Fest covered the entire Level 3.
3. I'm pretty sure Ichimonji made contant. You can clearly see that Chinjao's head had no CoA on it, and Cavendish's Durandal started to bend, so Chinjao was winning without even using CoA.

 

[A v i]

1. He wasn't watching Gladius, he was getting ready to strike at him.

He didn't attack him. He was just holding the sword and watching because he was hesitating to make a move. Because if he carelessly attacks him and Gladius uses a blast then his beauty gets effected. He has plenty of time to attack him and it was a clear opening yet he didn't tried to attack him which is the clear indication of him being careful about incoming attacks and not being rushed to attack enemies.

2. So? Those are different fodders. It's not like his Punc Rock Fest covered the entire Level 3.

I don't see any fodders lying on the ground besides the ones that were defeated by Hakuba. I don't remember anyone coming to help Gladius from other side and all of them were busy with their own battles with contestants of coliseum.

3. I'm pretty sure Ichimonji made contant.

No,it didn't.

You can clearly see that Chinjao's head had no CoA on it, and Cavendish's Durandal started to bend, so Chinjao was winning without even using CoA.

There is a concept called invisible haki in OP world. Chijao was serious about killing Luffy and you think he attacks without using haki? Besides , he commented about both of them being skilled fighters. Do you seriously think that he would consider someone that can't even use haki as a skilled fighter? Lol

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

He didn't attack him. He was just holding the sword and watching because he was hesitating to make a move. Because if he carelessly attacks him and Gladius uses a blast then his beauty gets effected. He has plenty of time to attack him and it was a clear opening yet he didn't tried to attack him which is the clear indication of him being careful about incoming attacks and not being rushed to attack enemies.



I don't see any fodders lying on the ground besides the ones that were defeated by Hakuba. I don't remember anyone coming to help Gladius from other side and all of them were busy with their own battles with contestants of coliseum.




No,it didn't.





There is a concept called invisible haki in OP world. Chijao was serious about killing Luffy and you think he attacks without using haki? Besides , he commented about both of them being skilled fighters. Do you seriously think that he would consider someone that can't even use haki as a skilled fighter? Lol

1. Or maybe Gladius was just too fast for him and could dodge Cavendish's attacks. It looked like he was trying to attack to me.
2. There were only 5 soldiers nearby Gladius, they died, and then some more showed up and got cut down by Hakuba.
3. "As one of the twenty-one finest katana in the world, Wado Ichimonji is a powerful blade when used by a competent swordsman. It is also quite durable, as shown when Dracule Mihawk's Yoru shattered two of Zoro's swords, this is the only one that did not break at all.[3]"

 

[A v i]

1. Or maybe Gladius was just too fast for him and could dodge Cavendish's attacks. It looked like he was trying to attack to me.

Lmao, is this a kind of joker or something? Given the his condition and the distance b/w him and Cavendish there is no way in living hell for him to dodge his attack. Gladius has 0 speed feats to even think about that feat. Where as Cavendish shown to have fairly good reactions and speed. Regardless, even in case of Punc Super Arena , If he was as pissed as you claimed him to be then he would have rushed to attack Gladius without thinking about consequences but he didn't which again proves that you are wrong.

2. There were only 5 soldiers nearby Gladius, they died, and then some more showed up and got cut down by Hakuba.

These excuses are lame, please stop using them. I have already told there isn't a solder who was lying on the ground. And you never provided a panel in which solders from other side came to aid him.

We can clearly see solders falling before Bartho's barrier here. [

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3. "As one of the twenty-one finest katana in the world, Wado Ichimonji is a powerful blade when used by a competent swordsman. It is also quite durable, as shown when Dracule Mihawk's Yoru shattered two of Zoro's swords, this is the only one that did not break at all.[3]"

What the hell are you even talking about? Why are you trying to bypass our original argument in the first place? I have already told you that Zoro's condition shouldn't be compared to that of Cavendish and Zoro's sword didn't make a contact with Mihawk's sword.





I can see that you are posting the arguments just for the sake of dragging the argument. I have no time for this so I am going to end this with this post. It's true that he isn't as strong as Bogard thinks & at the same time he isn't as weak as you think. He is a bit above Gladius and he stomps Gladius with hakuba. As I said in my first post nothing stops Base Cavendish from pulling the same feat as Bartho.

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

The more of thee lists I see the more I don't like them. I don't think one piece is this linear anyways and Oda loves to cluster pple up such as with WB n Roger then Roger to Garp and also Garp reffering to both WB n Rayleigh as legends the marines cld not take on simultaneously, showing that though WB was probably stronger it wasn't by a gap that huge n Rayleigh cld b just as bad news as WB for anyone even those in their tier in their primes let alone the current top tier n the up coming rubble rousers.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Lmao, is this a kind of joker or something? Given the his condition and the distance b/w him and Cavendish there is no way in living hell for him to dodge his attack. Gladius has 0 speed feats to even think about that feat. Where as Cavendish shown to have fairly good reactions and speed. Regardless, even in case of Punc Super Arena , If he was as pissed as you claimed him to be then he would have rushed to attack Gladius without thinking about consequences but he didn't which again proves that you are wrong.




These excuses are lame, please stop using them. I have already told there isn't a solder who was lying on the ground. And you never provided a panel in which solders from other side came to aid him.

We can clearly see solders falling before Bartho's barrier here. [

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] and the same guys were running away from him when Bartho was rampaging with his barrier. [

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What the hell are you even talking about? Why are you trying to bypass our original argument in the first place? I have already told you that Zoro's condition shouldn't be compared to that of Cavendish and Zoro's sword didn't make a contact with Mihawk's sword.





I can see that you are posting the arguments just for the sake of dragging the argument. I have no time for this so I am going to end this with this post. It's true that he isn't as strong as Bogard thinks & at the same time he isn't as weak as you think. He is a bit above Gladius and he stomps Gladius with hakuba. As I said in my first post nothing stops Base Cavendish from pulling the same feat as Bartho.

1. Gladius does have a speed feat. He easily caught Kabu, a guy who is pretty damn fast, and then proceeded to easily catch Toy Soldier. Gladius also managed to stalemate a surprise from Cavendish. He is the one with better speed and reactions, especially since Cavendish has no speed or reaction feats.
2. Cavendish almost shat himself because of Punc Rock Fest and Bartolomeo even said that he would have died if he was it by that. I personally don't think he would have died, but he would have been severely injured. Those mooks survived for the same reason that all of the fodders Post-TS Luffy has punched didn't die (when one punch was enough to destroy a Pacifista), Pell surviving a city level explosion, and those fodder pirates surviving Kuma's Ursus Shock, Oda doesn't like to kill and this sometimes creates inconsistencies in endurance. If we were to believe these inconsistencies, then the average NW fodder is more durable than a Pacifista, Pell could survive Dai Enkai: Entei, and Kuma's strongest move, which did quite some damage to Oars Jr., is so weak it can't even kill a fodder.
3. Ichimonji was clearly hit by the attack and withstood it.

 

[A v i]

1. Gladius does have a speed feat. He easily caught Kabu, a guy who is pretty damn fast, and then proceeded to easily catch Toy Soldier. Gladius also managed to stalemate a surprise from Cavendish. He is the one with better speed and reactions, especially since Cavendish has no speed or reaction feats.

That feat is something even Leo G can effortlessly pull and reacting to someone and having speed are two different things. Toy solder isn't that fast in his toy form. Cavendish was effortlessly dodging incoming attacks from Chinjao who's fast enough to keep up with Luffy.

2. Cavendish almost shat himself because of Punc Rock Fest and Bartolomeo even said that he would have died if he was it by that. I personally don't think he would have died, but he would have been severely injured. Those mooks survived for the same reason that all of the fodders Post-TS Luffy has punched didn't die (when one punch was enough to destroy a Pacifista), Pell surviving a city level explosion, and those fodder pirates surviving Kuma's Ursus Shock, Oda doesn't like to kill and this sometimes creates inconsistencies in endurance. If we were to believe these inconsistencies, then the average NW fodder is more durable than a Pacifista, Pell could survive Dai Enkai: Entei, and Kuma's strongest move, which did quite some damage to Oars Jr., is so weak it can't even kill a fodder.

I am not interested in these excuses. Those fodders have enough strength to run even after taking the damage from his attack. It's his strongest attack according to you and If it isn't strong enough to cause major damage to fodders then it isn't doing shit to someone like Cavendish. If fodders were saved by plot as you said then Cavendish plot armour is far stronger than that of random fodders means that he receives no damage at all.

3. Ichimonji was clearly hit by the attack and withstood it.

Why don't you post that scan instead of repeating the same statement again and again? The area where his sword hit Zoro was a bit below his chest and he put his sword in his mouth so they wouldn't possibly make a contact with each other. It's that simple. More importantly why are posting this when it has nothing to do with out original argument?

 

[Bogard]

I can see that you are posting the arguments just for the sake of dragging the argument. I have no time for this so I am going to end this with this post. It's true that he isn't as strong as Bogard thinks & at the same time he isn't as weak as you think. He is a bit above Gladius and he stomps Gladius with hakuba. As I said in my first post nothing stops Base Cavendish from pulling the same feat as Bartho.[/FONT][/I]

Where would you place Hakuba assuming Cavendish allows him to go all out?

 

[A v i]

Where would you place Hakuba assuming Cavendish allows him to go all out?

A bit below Sanji.

 

[Kamui Sama]

why is burgess so high?

 

[Bogard]

A bit below Sanji.

What's your reasoning? Just curious

 

[A v i]

What's your reasoning? Just curious

I honestly don't have a reason for that, at this point we can't conform anything regarding his strength. Taking his hype as well as feats into consideration I think it's safe to put him on that level. If I put him anywhere beyond that level then people start complaining about how he's not that strong and given his portrayal I can't really put him below likes of Gladius. I just have a feeling that most of fans won't complain about it if I put him somewhere b/e those two levels.