50 dead 53 injured in gay club massacre

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Sure, but there are and can be even more less lethal options to stop a criminal. That's the whole point.
You don't have to kill a criminal with a gun. They can be used to just stop one with a shot in the leg or even just the threat of being shot. Though I'd argue that a victim has every right to lethal self-defense in a lot of cases.
 

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He wasn't?
He did a lot for Germany. He tried to show us how it could be. In the end he failed and we got a this.
Can't and won't deny that.
Was everything good? Nah.

Economy and industry were great under his control, ofc because he build weapons and so on but still.

there have been lots of great leaders in the world who have done wonders for their countries without killing off 6 million people from a specific religion directly, and was the main reason in started the bloodiest conflict in human history.
 

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America cries when terror is struck in their land but celebrates when they strike terror in other people's land, hypocrisy at it's finest.
 

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That's true. There isn't too much of a good way to make sure no retard gets one unless privacy can be invaded. I guess that's the reason why people want it banned in general.

The argument isn't bad. You can't kill 50 people with a knife.

true. but mass murders can be committed by explosive experts and amateurs (Boston Massacre)

Jim Jones ( mass murder via cool aide and cyanide)

Evil will find a way
 

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true. but mass murders can be committed by explosive experts and amateurs (Boston Massacre)

Jim Jones ( mass murder via cool aide and cyanide)

Evil will find a way
That's much harder to do than just randomly shoot up a club. How much people did the Boston Bombers actually kill? 3 people.

And forming a cult is also much harder, lol.
 

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hmmm tbh i find it amusing that people are supporting guns for citizens.

But maybe its becoz i am not from US or west.If people get guns here so easily they will be shooting each others left and right on small issues :|
 

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He wasn't?
He did a lot for Germany. He tried to show us how it could be. In the end he failed and we got a this.
Can't and won't deny that.
Was everything good? Nah.

Economy and industry were great under his control, ofc because he build weapons and so on but still.

So you are pro-Hitler.
 

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hmmm tbh i find it amusing that people are supporting guns for citizens.

But maybe its becoz i am not from US or west.If people get guns here so easily they will be shooting each others left and right on small issues :|

I can tell most of you are Europeans, because I cant believe people are so comfortable putting their lives in the hands of their govermant. kinda spooky if you ask me.

That's much harder to do than just randomly shoot up a club. How much people did the Boston Bombers actually kill? 3 people.

And forming a cult is also much harder, lol.
lol these things happen, there are lots of cults in America. not to mention allot of domestic terrorist that radicalize themselves and are potential threats. So you would be better of with some protection. And lets face it just because the government bans guns dont mean people wont have them, which means the average citizen would be at the mercy of whoever is trying to do whatever...Until the police arrive. response time is like 2 mins if you can get to a phone.

You guys are to comfortable lol.
 
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I can tell most of you are Europeans, because I cant believe people are so comfortable putting their lives in the hands of their govermant. kinda spooky if you ask me.

I am Asian :lol
@bold eh becoz thats the reason we Vote for them :|
 

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Not exactly, they happen less than for example gang shootings.

So white shootings aren't a problem because they happen at a less frequent rate?
And when was the last time a black kid shot up a kindergarden or school?

It is one thing for a gang member to kill another, and a completely different thing for 1 guy to shootout his school and kill dozens of children. But I guess it doesn't happen that often, so...eh...it's not a problem, who cares.
 

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America cries when terror is struck in their land but celebrates when they strike terror in other people's land, hypocrisy at it's finest.

They don't strike terror in other people's lands, they strike "democracy", "liberty", "freedom" and other pretty words.
 
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What's weird is the paranoia Americans have that the government is just waiting to turn on them. If the government wanted to, they could f*ck their citizens up with or without a gun ban.

You'd rather have incidents like this continue then trust in the government a little. And yes, guns don't walk up and kill people, but it is exponentially more difficult for a mentally ill ISIS sympathizer to kill 50 by other means than just pull a trigger of an assault rifle.

but no impossible. if this guy decided to put carbon dioxide in the vent, or use the gas to simply blow the building, this would have been just as sad and maybe even more effective.

when you look at things from that perspective you realize that simply banning guns isnt the answer. Because if we allow fear to paralyze us, what happens, we become sheep who cant protect ourselves from wolves. I dont know where you're from, but just accept you cant parallel your country's and mines share Different mentality's when it comes to the degree in which one should be allowed to protect themselves.




You got me hoe

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(posted it anyway:stfu:)
 
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So which of yall is signing up to come knock on people's doors and try to take their guns?
 
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