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1. Kabuto's insides being liquid does not enable him to slip through attacks like Suigetsu.
2. The black orbs are not Onmyoton
3. The sage's sword was not overpowered by Sasuke's PS sword boosted through Naruto.
4. Hidora is weak because it didn't kill Kisame.
5. Sage Mode weakens the black orbs
Hope you liked the thread. Please tell me your opinion and list what you think are misconceptions.
First off, I'd like to say mention that none of these by themselves prove anything, but the fact that there's these many instances proves our point.
First off, there's this. Here he gets hit by Sasuke's sword. Kabuto said he uses liquification to slouch off his skin, not to make attacks slip through him like Suigetsu. In other words, it's like an advanced version of oral rebirth. And here's the funny thing, we see the snake part that got hit still have the wound until Karin's healing kicks in.
Then there's this.
Why does he guard himself and feel boxed in from Yasaka Yamatama? Answer, he's not immune to them. The funny thing is that yasakas that size are probably no stronger than a ransengan.
Also, why was Kabuto's tail penetrated? If it were liquid, he'd slip right through.
It was only until a little later that the snake liquified. Also, Itachi managed to land a hit on Kabuto(although minor).
Why did he doge a sword? Surely if he's liquid, that wouldn't be a threat. Or how about the susanoo hand? That shouldn't work if he's liquid.
Only his insides are liquid, and he uses that to shed his skin, not to be immune to attacks. In fact, injuries are maintained and have to be healed by Karin's power, and there are some things he's flat-out vulnerable to.
First off, there's this. Here he gets hit by Sasuke's sword. Kabuto said he uses liquification to slouch off his skin, not to make attacks slip through him like Suigetsu. In other words, it's like an advanced version of oral rebirth. And here's the funny thing, we see the snake part that got hit still have the wound until Karin's healing kicks in.
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Then there's this.
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Why does he guard himself and feel boxed in from Yasaka Yamatama? Answer, he's not immune to them. The funny thing is that yasakas that size are probably no stronger than a ransengan.
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Also, why was Kabuto's tail penetrated? If it were liquid, he'd slip right through.
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It was only until a little later that the snake liquified. Also, Itachi managed to land a hit on Kabuto(although minor).
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Why did he doge a sword? Surely if he's liquid, that wouldn't be a threat. Or how about the susanoo hand? That shouldn't work if he's liquid.
Only his insides are liquid, and he uses that to shed his skin, not to be immune to attacks. In fact, injuries are maintained and have to be healed by Karin's power, and there are some things he's flat-out vulnerable to.
2. The black orbs are not Onmyoton
This is easily one of the biggest misconceptions of the base. It's gotten to the point that people call the black orbs Onmyoton.
Most assume that when Tobirama was talking about Onmyoton, that he was talking about the orbs and Hiruzen was wrong in his assessment that the black orbs are a fusion of 4 or more elements.
But that's not the case. First of all, if the orbs themselves were Onmyoton, then why did Hiruzen regenerate from it? Why did Obito suddenly get the ability to cancel out ninjutsu when he was conscious when he was using the jutsu all along? Or here's a thought.
Why wasn't Obito roasted instantly by wind-enhanced enton when hit without the orbs.
Why was everyone surprised that when Naruto's SM ransengan hit Obito's body and bypassed the orbs, that it worked?
If the black orbs themselves were Onmyoton, then it should have been no surprise that Obito was affected by Naruto's attacks. The simple answer is, the black orbs are not Onmyoton. Onmyoton is a jutsu the juubi jinchuriki uses through his body, and by extension, the black orbs.
Most assume that when Tobirama was talking about Onmyoton, that he was talking about the orbs and Hiruzen was wrong in his assessment that the black orbs are a fusion of 4 or more elements.
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But that's not the case. First of all, if the orbs themselves were Onmyoton, then why did Hiruzen regenerate from it? Why did Obito suddenly get the ability to cancel out ninjutsu when he was conscious when he was using the jutsu all along? Or here's a thought.
Why wasn't Obito roasted instantly by wind-enhanced enton when hit without the orbs.
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Why was everyone surprised that when Naruto's SM ransengan hit Obito's body and bypassed the orbs, that it worked?
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If the black orbs themselves were Onmyoton, then it should have been no surprise that Obito was affected by Naruto's attacks. The simple answer is, the black orbs are not Onmyoton. Onmyoton is a jutsu the juubi jinchuriki uses through his body, and by extension, the black orbs.
3. The sage's sword was not overpowered by Sasuke's PS sword boosted through Naruto.
Seriously, people need to look deeper.
Here's some statement about the sword that Obito made.
The sage's feelings dwell inside of it and it's a sword of the soul. Now, look very closely at these scans.
As soon as his imagination of what his life could have been like ended (which was before the swords crossed), Obito's sword made contact with the PS sword, and that's when it broke. Also, the ending said "the bond with one's friends was the one to win." I'm sorry, but I find it too much of a coincidence that Obito just happened to say that it's a sword of the soul, he happened to doubt himself, and it happened to break right after that.
The sage's sword is fueled by willpower. Obito's doubts enabled Naruto and Sasuke to break it.
Here's some statement about the sword that Obito made.
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The sage's feelings dwell inside of it and it's a sword of the soul. Now, look very closely at these scans.
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As soon as his imagination of what his life could have been like ended (which was before the swords crossed), Obito's sword made contact with the PS sword, and that's when it broke. Also, the ending said "the bond with one's friends was the one to win." I'm sorry, but I find it too much of a coincidence that Obito just happened to say that it's a sword of the soul, he happened to doubt himself, and it happened to break right after that.
The sage's sword is fueled by willpower. Obito's doubts enabled Naruto and Sasuke to break it.
4. Hidora is weak because it didn't kill Kisame.
Touken already made a thread on this, but I planned to talk about this from the beginning. Some people think Hidora is a weak jutsu because it didn't obliterate Kisame's body. However, they're not looking at the bigger picture. Let's look at how the fight went.
Take a look. It was a jutsu clash. Kisame intercepted it with super water shark bomb. They were equal in size, and it was one impressive jutsu. The shark bomb obviously saved Kisame from the brunt of Hidora. Look at how much of an effect it had on Naruto and the others when they were far away. Do you honestly think Hidora has that much effect on someone far away, and yet, is weak?
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Take a look. It was a jutsu clash. Kisame intercepted it with super water shark bomb. They were equal in size, and it was one impressive jutsu. The shark bomb obviously saved Kisame from the brunt of Hidora. Look at how much of an effect it had on Naruto and the others when they were far away. Do you honestly think Hidora has that much effect on someone far away, and yet, is weak?
5. Sage Mode weakens the black orbs
Another misconception. They think that the statement that the weakness of the juubi jinchuriki is senjutsu, that it means Obito's techniques are weak against senjutsu.
This is taking things out of context. What he meant was that the weakness was that senjutsu isn't deleted. Also, there's something that contradicts this line of thinking.
The entire reason why senjutsu works against the juubi jinchuriki is because it's the same power as the juubi. Following this line of thinking means that Obito should not have been able to tank his own attacks, but he did.
Senjutsu clearly doesn't weaken Obito at all.
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This is taking things out of context. What he meant was that the weakness was that senjutsu isn't deleted. Also, there's something that contradicts this line of thinking.
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The entire reason why senjutsu works against the juubi jinchuriki is because it's the same power as the juubi. Following this line of thinking means that Obito should not have been able to tank his own attacks, but he did.
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Senjutsu clearly doesn't weaken Obito at all.
Hope you liked the thread. Please tell me your opinion and list what you think are misconceptions.
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