5 kages trashes > non-edo madara

[Madarama]

Yh even if it's rinnegan non edo madara they still win.

I believed he regenerated many times in his match against the kages, can't remember the fight much though.

Plus he wouldn't have unlimited chakra.

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[MrLukyso]

I'll create a thread tomorrow on how EMS Madara stomps 5 Kages.

 

[magmavire]

For everyone saying madara would pull perfect susanoo from the beginning of the fight we have no idea if he even had enough chakra to pull that off when he was alive.

 

[Madarama]

Spoiler

Anyway, Tsunade speed feats:

Why most of you call her slow is because:

1. Madara's statement: She's stronger than the Raikage, but slower. Slower than the Raikage doesn't make her the slowest. Please be careful at the comparison terms. I would advise you to look further into those rules.
Plus, it's a one piece comparison, not mass comparison. Madara didn't called her slower than the entire Shinobi World, he called her slower than one character, Raikage.

2: Her summon, Katsuyu. If Katsuyu is a slug, and slugs are known to be slow, that doesn't make Tsunade slow. Don't misinterpret Tsunade's Summon with Tsunade's character.

3: Just because she chooses to take the attacks, it doesn't make her slow. Her intention is clear: she is the one who wants to take that attack, being self-aware of her tanking ability.
Most of you don't even know what's Tsunade's primary ability. Because you hate Sakura, didn't even looked into Tsunade's feats, as Tsunade's learning Sakura what she uses in battle.
Tsunade's primary skill is evasive skills:

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Now, what do we note here?:

When you face an opponents attack evasion comes first!

Evading an attack requires high speed and reaction time. Therefore, we can safely assume she is fast enough as her primary skills is evasion.

Now, let us see some examples where Tsunade was able to show her speed.

1. In the battle with Kabuto, even though she hasn't been fighting over a big period of time, she was able to keep it up with Kabuto, who at that time was compared with Kakashi, but not forget that first he took Hyourougan. Those are soldier pills who are known for enhancing all your senses. So having all his senses increased, Tsunade who, as I've specified, hadn't fought for years, was able to evade his attacks and respond with an attack in the same time as she manoeuvres her body placed in weird positions, and all that with ease.

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Not to mention that from Tanzaku castle up to the Sannin batterfield, Tsunade managed to follow Orochimaru and Kabuto and in the same time she destroyed everything in her path.


2. In the same highly injured state, Tsunade was able to outrun Orochimaru in order to protect Naruto from being impaled with the Kusanagi sword:

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As well as after being impaled herself with the sword, she was able to move fast enough once again to protect Naruto, when not even Jiraya himself was able to do the hand seals.

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And before starting to release her seal, she punched Orochimaru. That requires reaction speed and speed itself as well

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3. She was able to keep it up on the same pair with Manda. Actually, I would comment that a bit faster since she pin-pointed his location and calculated his attack direction and was able to stab him with Gamabunta's sword.
So here not only a feat as a speed but also reaction-time.

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Not to mention that Manda has the advantage of shape.

And right-away after she dealt with Manda, she switched to Orochimaru, who was trying to attack her, in an instance:

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4. Another example of her being fast is the Pein arc. In an considerably injured state, she was able to outrun a ANBU in great shape. And not only that, but we must consider the area she faced with.

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5. The last, but not the least, as we all know is the example of Tsunade being able to move even faster than Mei was able to do the hand seals for countering Madara's technique. Mei barely said "Suiton" and Tsunade was already there.

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Actually...

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That was clone was it?

 

[Madaraforever]

Madara is the best the only one who can beat is the fist hokage but his dead. so he wins!

 

[KidGamer65]

For everyone saying madara would pull perfect susanoo from the beginning of the fight we have no idea if he even had enough chakra to pull that off when he was alive.

How did he use it against Hashirama if he doesn't have enough chakra.

 

[always thinking]

im not so sure, id like to think madara would beast them but on the other hand he kind of already did. He made a susano'o army....im not sure if he would be able to make them without he edo unlimited chakra mode but who knows.

 

[shelke]

Didn't Madara say that anyone who saw his sussano didn't live to tell the tale?

 

[Ly1e]

The only reason madara defeated the 5 kages and still stands in this war is simply because he is an edo zombie, remove his regenerative ability, immortality and unlimited chakra, and he becomes trash, "madara is still strong", dont get me wrong,(madara fan boys), he would have probably died from the jinton wave

Sounds like you're mad cuz' Madara solo'd the 5 Kage lol. He's simply too beast Edo or Non-Edo; get over it. Besides, he WANTED to be revived in a normal state, not an Edo, which goes to show he doesn't even care that he has unlimited chakra/regenerative powers.

 

[Itachi15]

this thread still going on ? wow thought we knew this thread was bs madara obviously wins even without edo he didnt even want to be in edo plus for those who are saying "he cant spam all his techs" "he would be out of chakra in 10 mins" madara was known for having a massive amount of chakra

 

[Chatte]

Chatte you're hardcore fanboy... I proved with Manga that it was a clone that Tsunade attacked clone, Madara didn't even did anything, she walked into a obvious trap by rushing recklessly cause she's just too stupid to think..
Madara got hit, clone dissapeared, Madara came from Mokuton and said it was mokuton clone.. What more do you need ?

Now I've looked back and I saw.
My excuses, I thought you were referring at something else, that's why I responded with the other scan.
And that wasn't necessarily reckless, she was just devising a plan in order for the other kages to seal Madara.
In the end, no one knew so much about Hashirama's powers than the only one that fought him, meaning Madara.
And I am not a fanboy... First of all, I am a girl, and second, all I've said until now about Tsunade was proven with facts and I admitted about being wrong.
Now show me a fanboy who does that.

 

[Stark]

No, Madara wasn't even fighting seriously.. If he was Non-Edo then he would be fighting more carefully, it was a big game to him U_U

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

madara was known for having a massive amount of chakra

he said he had the biggest chakra ever seen for the uchihas at the time. nothing about it being particularly remarkable or bijuu levels