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[GwemBaba]

We don't know but most likely even if tht were to happen the sheer impact of all of tht wood would crush Nagato or the path etc

It's like example if gaara does sand tsunami against Nagato yes Nagato would indeed take chakra out of it but the weight of it would crush him

Or metor

If anything Nagato wouldn't use preta path against either the wood or sand he would use shara tensi to repel all of it

Nagato has shown to be very durable, his mech armor would also help him.

 

[Touken]

We don't know but most likely even if tht were to happen the sheer impact of all of tht wood would crush Nagato or the path etc

It's like example if gaara does sand tsunami against Nagato yes Nagato would indeed take chakra out of it but the weight of it would crush him

Or metor

If anything Nagato wouldn't use preta path against either the wood or sand he would use shara tensi to repel all of it

Or he could use the Preta Path as a shield such as when he used it against KCM Naruto and any incoming sand/Mokuton would be absorbed.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Hashirama relies on his Mokuton a lot.

Cho Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei. I'm not seeing Naruto top that, even counting Bijuu Dama (Which isn't his Ninjutsu.)

Naruto and Hashirama aren't above him.

And Kisame is above Naruto too as he was compared to Naruto at 30% Chakra.

Tht 30% was compared to naruto as child when he had the cloak on naruto chakra reserves > kisame a
But with samheada idk


Now the whole Nagato hashirama naruto thing indeed logically and jutsu wise I don't seen other beating Nagato in one on one even in my top ten I put naruto equaled to Nagato but I would put hashi and naruto > Nagato for one simple reason they are alive (hashi through Edo) to show us more of their abilities I don't know who stronger but we can see more of naruto and hashi because they're alive and Nagato isn't so idk

 

[Fresco]

I don't really agree with much of anything aside from your Genjutsu prowess list, though I commend the thought you put into this thread.

In my opinion, you overrate Tsunade when it comes to a lot of things. She shouldn't even be in the top ten for Ninjutsu prowess. I find it laughable that she made it over the likes of Sasuke and Kakashi. As for the Ninjutsu prowess section itself, if we were looking at it from a feats standpoint, Hiruzen shouldn't be there. Naruto as well since the only things he uses now are Rasengan and Shadow Clones aside from his Bijuu Mode and Kyuubi Mode. I would agree that Hashirama should be in the top ten in this category, but not over Nagato and Madara who both possess the Rinnegan; thus giving them mastery of all chakra natures. Nagato should be second behind Rikudo based purely on the sheer size of his arsenal. As for the Taijutsu prowess, I don't feel Tsunade should be tied for first. That's just me. I also believe Neji should be above both Lee and Naruto.

My biggest gripe is about the Chakra levels. Nagato shouldn't be tied with Tsunade. Instead, I believe he should be in front of Hashirama. If we look at the Pain arc, we can clearly conclude that Nagato's chakra levels are only matched by Jinchuriki. Also, Minato shouldn't be in the top ten, nor should Kushina. I believe Obito should be considerably higher in this regard given all he has accomplished.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Or he could use the Preta Path as a shield such as when he used it against KCM Naruto and any incoming sand/Mokuton would be absorbed.

Preta path can absorb chakra not actual physical things gaara creates the sand from minerals already in earth by grinding them up
So even if preta path shield was activated again it would only absorb the chakra not the actual substance being sand with tht being said the weight of the sand tsunami would crush him... (Though in a fight I hardly see gaara winning against Nagato and he's my fav I mean he has some defenses or insurance in the fight but I'd still give it to Nagato but gaara would go down swinging)

As for hashi it's weird because his Mokoton is made of chakra meaning the wood as well so preta path shield might work on it idk tho but as far as the definition of preta path it should absorb anything chakra made so it would most likely absorb Mokoton but idk for sure

 

[Nous]

Thank You KingHashirama, Thank You! One little fix - I think Might Guy is a solid step above Tsunade in terms of Taijutsu, but that is just me. And I <3 You Man - Hiruzen in Top 5 for overall. Perfect. Great thread, Repped&Thanks.

EDIT: I can't rep since my rep power is too low :/

 

[Touken]

I don't think a chakraless sand tsunami would crush someone as durable (Asura Path) as Nagato but yeah, point being is Nagato should be above Hashirama.

Aside from SO6P, I think Nagato's the best Rinnegan wielder we've seen.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I don't think a chakraless sand tsunami would crush someone as durable (Asura Path) as Nagato but yeah, point being is Nagato should be above Hashirama.

Aside from SO6P, I think Nagato's the best Rinnegan wielder we've seen.

Dude thts like saying I don't think a huge tital wave would crush somebody 0.0
It doesn't matter how durible u r the weight of a sand tsunami the thing tht gaara did to kimmimaru (not the little shit thts in the storm 3 games) would crush anybody because of its size and weight

 

[elsepa]

Gai is not in the stamina prowess ? Last databook Tsunade was given 4 while Gai was given 5 , just saying. Also Tsunade is just pure raw power , her skills pale in comparation to Gai .

 

[KingHashirama]

Hashirama relies on his Mokuton a lot.

Cho Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei. I'm not seeing Naruto top that, even counting Bijuu Dama (Which isn't his Ninjutsu.)

Naruto and Hashirama aren't above him.

And Kisame is above Naruto too as he was compared to Naruto at 30% Chakra.

Hashirama is SHOWN to rely on Mokuton through couple flashbacks that haven't shown his arsenal... We have not seen him fight like Nagato has been shown. And not to mention the Scroll of Seals, which blonged to the Shodai himself. Bijuu Dama is Naruto's ninjutsu it comes from his body. He had to learn it , its already been shown.

Naruto and Hashirama are easily above him, due to their prowess. Thats what your not getting. Your believing high amount of ninjutsu > STRONG ninjutsu. no.

KingHashirama doesn't mean how diverse a shinobi's ninjutsu is with 'Ninjutsu Prowess', but how effective they are with it.

But Nagato should still be top as I honestly believe Rinnegan > Mokuton.

Thank you sir.

Mokuton has shown to be stronger now. Only 1 person with Rinnegan is stronger then Hashirama with Mokuton, and thats the Rikudo Sennin. I mean Nagato failed at the 9-tails taming, while Hashirama did it easily, through Mokuton.

I don't really agree with much of anything aside from your Genjutsu prowess list, though I commend the thought you put into this thread.

In my opinion, you overrate Tsunade when it comes to a lot of things. She shouldn't even be in the top ten for Ninjutsu prowess. I find it laughable that she made it over the likes of Sasuke and Kakashi. As for the Ninjutsu prowess section itself, if we were looking at it from a feats standpoint, Hiruzen shouldn't be there. Naruto as well since the only things he uses now are Rasengan and Shadow Clones aside from his Bijuu Mode and Kyuubi Mode. I would agree that Hashirama should be in the top ten in this category, but not over Nagato and Madara who both possess the Rinnegan; thus giving them mastery of all chakra natures. Nagato should be second behind Rikudo based purely on the sheer size of his arsenal. As for the Taijutsu prowess, I don't feel Tsunade should be tied for first. That's just me. I also believe Neji should be above both Lee and Naruto.

My biggest gripe is about the Chakra levels. Nagato shouldn't be tied with Tsunade. Instead, I believe he should be in front of Hashirama. If we look at the Pain arc, we can clearly conclude that Nagato's chakra levels are only matched by Jinchuriki. Also, Minato shouldn't be in the top ten, nor should Kushina. I believe Obito should be considerably higher in this regard given all he has accomplished.

Tsunade specializes in ninjutsu that is not that recognized, she knows ins and outs of Medical ninjutsu. So she is automatically top 10 due to that.

Hiruzen was said to be the Professor, I put hype and feat combined. I based the Ninjutsu prowess list on how much power their ninjutsu can pack and do they have a whole lot of jutsus. Rasengan variation is still different ninjutsu.

Nagato admit that Kisame had higher chakra levels.. so why would I put him in front of a person who is able to do a high amount of chakra requiring s/t technique (summoning) while being cut in half. Actually thank you reminding me that, I knew I was forgetting someone with high Chakra, and thats Obito. THANK YOU .

Why is Naruto so high on Ninjutsu? he only dos Rasengan and shadow clones if thats the case Kisame should be there and Obito is highon the overall list.He only showd Kumai and Katon styles. Stamnalst is no good either atm we have no proof Hashi hs moreta the 3rd Raikage or Kisame. Nagato said Kiame has the most in Akatsuki yet Nagato is ahead of him?..................Kabuto and Madara -_-

Rasengan variation and Bijuu dama. Hashirama raised his chakra inside his body and made the walls tremble.. he did a ninjutsu that made the 9-tails look like a rat, and then he still fought someone like Madara. I'm pretty sure that puts him at a higher level, then the 3rd Raikage. Actually yea I just didn't want there to be a whole contreversy about Nagato and Kisame. I personally do believe Kisame is higher then Nagato.

Orochimaru should be higher in ninjutsu sense it was said he has biggest arsenal in ninjutsu area (10,000 learned)

Nagato should be higher then naruto (who shouldn't really be on list) cuz he can learn any jutsu in naruto verse

Kakashi should be up hear beciSe of his arsenal

Hurizen should be up hear it was said tht he learned every jutsu in leaf


Tai jutsu agree with everything the only thing I would add somewhere is maybe kimmimaru his taijutsu was so badass

Genjutsu I agree with

Chakra stamina I don't know why minato is up here tbh he doesn't have a lot of either Kushina is uzimaki so I c why she's there but not him also where r the junjurchi ?? Gaara should be on hear above tobirama and mito sense he has unbelievable chakra and stamina reserves
And was former junjurchi so what he lost his demon tht doesn't mean his chakra reserves went down gaara never used bijuu chakra except against naruto sasuke and Sakura think about it he suppressed it also he would've never ran out of chakra against kimmi or deidara when moving tht sand shield over leaf village he was exhausted he never trusted one tails to use the chakra

Orochimaru's strongest ninjutsu was defeated easily.

Nagato lacks ninjutsu PROWESS, he has the rinnegan.. but he could've done so much more but he didn't.

Strongest attack Kakashi has is Kamui or Chidori. Not really that strong.

Hiruzen hasn't shown prowess, however i put him there due to his hype.

Yea I actually was going to put Kimimaro , but then i got confused on whether to put him due to his KKG. But yea he is top 10. I'll add him on the other one.

Minato had the chakra to do everything he did, even when the reaper was right on him. Gaara has about the same reserves as Onoki.

Thank You KingHashirama, Thank You! One little fix - I think Might Guy is a solid step above Tsunade in terms of Taijutsu, but that is just me. And I <3 You Man - Hiruzen in Top 5 for overall. Perfect. Great thread, Repped&Thanks.

EDIT: I can't rep since my rep power is too low :/

ahaha xD, your welcome man, and i can't rep you cause i already repped you before AHAHAHAHA =D

Gai is not in the stamina prowess ? Last databook Tsunade was given 4 while Gai was given 5 , just saying. Also Tsunade is just pure raw power , her skills pale in comparation to Gai .

Stamina/Chakra. Basically just Chakra levels.

Tsunade can tank Katon.. Can 1 punch K.O Guy..... Speed = Strength.

 

[elsepa]

Tsunade can tank Katon.. Can 1 punch K.O Guy..... Speed = Strength.

So this is a VS thread now? -_-

 

[KingHashirama]

So this is a VS thread now? -_-

I was giving you a example.. why i put her in a tie......

 

[elsepa]

I was giving you a example.. why i put her in a tie......

I know , you are right , i guess.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Hashirama is SHOWN to rely on Mokuton through couple flashbacks that haven't shown his arsenal... We have not seen him fight like Nagato has been shown. And not to mention the Scroll of Seals, which blonged to the Shodai himself. Bijuu Dama is Naruto's ninjutsu it comes from his body. He had to learn it , its already been shown.

Naruto and Hashirama are easily above him, due to their prowess. Thats what your not getting. Your believing high amount of ninjutsu > STRONG ninjutsu. no.


Thank you sir.

Mokuton has shown to be stronger now. Only 1 person with Rinnegan is stronger then Hashirama with Mokuton, and thats the Rikudo Sennin. I mean Nagato failed at the 9-tails taming, while Hashirama did it easily, through Mokuton.


Tsunade specializes in ninjutsu that is not that recognized, she knows ins and outs of Medical ninjutsu. So she is automatically top 10 due to that.

Hiruzen was said to be the Professor, I put hype and feat combined. I based the Ninjutsu prowess list on how much power their ninjutsu can pack and do they have a whole lot of jutsus. Rasengan variation is still different ninjutsu.

Nagato admit that Kisame had higher chakra levels.. so why would I put him in front of a person who is able to do a high amount of chakra requiring s/t technique (summoning) while being cut in half. Actually thank you reminding me that, I knew I was forgetting someone with high Chakra, and thats Obito. THANK YOU .




Rasengan variation and Bijuu dama. Hashirama raised his chakra inside his body and made the walls tremble.. he did a ninjutsu that made the 9-tails look like a rat, and then he still fought someone like Madara. I'm pretty sure that puts him at a higher level, then the 3rd Raikage. Actually yea I just didn't want there to be a whole contreversy about Nagato and Kisame. I personally do believe Kisame is higher then Nagato.




Orochimaru's strongest ninjutsu was defeated easily.

Nagato lacks ninjutsu PROWESS, he has the rinnegan.. but he could've done so much more but he didn't.

Strongest attack Kakashi has is Kamui or Chidori. Not really that strong.

Hiruzen hasn't shown prowess, however i put him there due to his hype.

Yea I actually was going to put Kimimaro , but then i got confused on whether to put him due to his KKG. But yea he is top 10. I'll add him on the other one.

Minato had the chakra to do everything he did, even when the reaper was right on him. Gaara has about the same reserves as Onoki.


ahaha xD, your welcome man, and i can't rep you cause i already repped you before AHAHAHAHA =D


Stamina/Chakra. Basically just Chakra levels.

Tsunade can tank Katon.. Can 1 punch K.O Guy..... Speed = Strength.

Gaara has way more stamina and chakra reserves then onooki and minato ... Tht is fact in order for u to have bijuu sealed inside of u u need to have strong chakra as a baby and have the stamina to survive it.. Gaara's dad stated tht gaara out of all the children was the only tht could bear shikaku also the fact tht he could suppress the bijuu itself without any protection seal (like naruto before he befriend kurama) is a feat in its self
Not to mention he can do ninjutu attacks on par with his bijuu shows how big his chakra reserves and stamina is
Onooki and gaara ran out of chakra trying to stop the metor true but gaara fought 1 more person by himself then onooki ...

Also in the 5 kage fight against 25 Susannos gaara saved Mei from her 5 Susannos by defending her with half of his defense and useing the sand bullet thing to attak with them while he was fighting 5 so in tht moment gaara was fighting 10 Susannos while the rest of the kage was fighting 5 each (yes in the end the 5 jumped him and attacked the remaining defense he had)


As for orochimaru it was never Said his perfect form or his hydra mode was his strongest ninjutsu it was said to be his strongest form (mind u without his arms) now with tht being said u said ninjutsu prowess if somebody has the largest ninjutsu arsenal in the series then yes he should be higher then where he's at on top ten in your list ...

Nagato doesn't lack ninjutsu prowess sure he could've done more but he knows how to rip ur soul a tech like tht is equivalent to RDS witch usually takes ur life
He created his own summons witch has regenerating abilities he knows a lot of diff techs not to mention created 6pop witch he singled handly put specific abilities into reincarnated bodies controlling all of them at once.
Not to mention he created a chakra rod system to transmit the bodies an other ppl chakra

 

[KingHashirama]

I know , you are right , i guess.

We have different opinions xD, all we can do is understand each others believes. =D

Gaara has way more stamina and chakra reserves then onooki and minato ... Tht is fact in order for u to have bijuu sealed inside of u u need to have strong chakra as a baby and have the stamina to survive it.. Gaara's dad stated tht gaara

Way more??? nooo bro.

Onoki and Gaara had fought for equal amount. and both were equally tired.

 

[elsepa]

We have different opinions xD, all we can do is understand each others believes. =D

Of course ,no choice hehehe.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Hashirama is SHOWN to rely on Mokuton through couple flashbacks that haven't shown his arsenal... We have not seen him fight like Nagato has been shown. And not to mention the Scroll of Seals, which blonged to the Shodai himself. Bijuu Dama is Naruto's ninjutsu it comes from his body. He had to learn it , its already been shown.

Naruto and Hashirama are easily above him, due to their prowess. Thats what your not getting. Your believing high amount of ninjutsu > STRONG ninjutsu. no.


Thank you sir.

Mokuton has shown to be stronger now. Only 1 person with Rinnegan is stronger then Hashirama with Mokuton, and thats the Rikudo Sennin. I mean Nagato failed at the 9-tails taming, while Hashirama did it easily, through Mokuton.


Tsunade specializes in ninjutsu that is not that recognized, she knows ins and outs of Medical ninjutsu. So she is automatically top 10 due to that.

Hiruzen was said to be the Professor, I put hype and feat combined. I based the Ninjutsu prowess list on how much power their ninjutsu can pack and do they have a whole lot of jutsus. Rasengan variation is still different ninjutsu.

Nagato admit that Kisame had higher chakra levels.. so why would I put him in front of a person who is able to do a high amount of chakra requiring s/t technique (summoning) while being cut in half. Actually thank you reminding me that, I knew I was forgetting someone with high Chakra, and thats Obito. THANK YOU .




Rasengan variation and Bijuu dama. Hashirama raised his chakra inside his body and made the walls tremble.. he did a ninjutsu that made the 9-tails look like a rat, and then he still fought someone like Madara. I'm pretty sure that puts him at a higher level, then the 3rd Raikage. Actually yea I just didn't want there to be a whole contreversy about Nagato and Kisame. I personally do believe Kisame is higher then Nagato.




Orochimaru's strongest ninjutsu was defeated easily.

Nagato lacks ninjutsu PROWESS, he has the rinnegan.. but he could've done so much more but he didn't.

Strongest attack Kakashi has is Kamui or Chidori. Not really that strong.

Hiruzen hasn't shown prowess, however i put him there due to his hype.

Yea I actually was going to put Kimimaro , but then i got confused on whether to put him due to his KKG. But yea he is top 10. I'll add him on the other one.

Minato had the chakra to do everything he did, even when the reaper was right on him. Gaara has about the same reserves as Onoki.


ahaha xD, your welcome man, and i can't rep you cause i already repped you before AHAHAHAHA =D


Stamina/Chakra. Basically just Chakra levels.

Tsunade can tank Katon.. Can 1 punch K.O Guy..... Speed = Strength.

Gaara has way more stamina and chakra reserves then onooki and minato ... Tht is fact in order for u to have bijuu sealed inside of u u need to have strong chakra as a baby and have the stamina to survive it.. Gaara's dad stated tht gaara out of all the children was the only tht could bear shikaku also the fact tht he could suppress the bijuu itself without any protection seal (like naruto before he befriend kurama) is a feat in its self
Not to mention he can do ninjutu attacks on par with his bijuu shows how big his chakra reserves and stamina is
Onooki and gaara ran out of chakra trying to stop the metor true but gaara fought 1 more person by himself then onooki ...

Also in the 5 kage fight against 25 Susannos gaara saved Mei from her 5 Susannos by defending her with half of his defense and useing the sand bullet thing to attak with them while he was fighting 5 so in tht moment gaara was fighting 10 Susannos while the rest of the kage was fighting 5 each (yes in the end the 5 jumped him and attacked the remaining defense he had)


As for orochimaru it was never Said his perfect form or his hydra mode was his strongest ninjutsu it was said to be his strongest form (mind u without his arms) now with tht being said u said ninjutsu prowess if somebody has the largest ninjutsu arsenal in the series then yes he should be higher then where he's at on top ten in your list ...

Nagato doesn't lack ninjutsu prowess sure he could've done more but he knows how to rip ur soul a tech like tht is equivalent to RDS witch usually takes ur life
He created his own summons witch has regenerating abilities he knows a lot of diff techs not to mention created 6pop witch he singled handly put specific abilities into reincarnated bodies controlling all of them at once.
Not to mention he created a chakra rod system to transmit the bodies an other ppl chakra

 

[slaton02]

If you personally believe Kisame's chakra is ahead of Nagato(which is true) but didn't make your thread not accurate true or believe by even yourself. Tell it like it is and be Unbiased

 

[Valon]

How the hell is Minato's name even spoken in Taijutsu, that is completely absurd.