4th kazekage is underrated

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There seems to be a trend of haters who say the fourth is weak because of his past coincidence by oro and gaara. However thats just BS!!XD
1) the wind daimyo cut off suna's funds,thereby dooming the village to extinction,however,he was able to summon enough gold dust to not only pay for the entire suna,but to keep them among the top 5 villages.essentially carrying the village's existence on his head.

2) he was able to use enough gold dust to envelop the shukaku,a tailed beast who had sand based powers exceeding those of gaara's and this was while in the desert and he could still do this ,meaning he could handle a tailed beast himself,unlike other elites who could take on v2 jins,but had no answer when they went full bijuu.

3) orochimaru assasinated him IIRC,that dosent make him weak,he trusted orochimaru and got back stabbed. Even the most powerful of shinobis can do down like that,if one they trust turns around and betrays them.

4) he is able to instantly create gold dust into the above surface with no prep whatsoever and his gold dust wave is stronger than gaara's sand tsunami. He possesed jiton,which allowed him to manipulate repulsive forces of magnetism to make his gold dust move just as fast as gaara's gourd sand despite being 7 times heavier. He could also manipulate attractive forces to pull gold dust to him from the environment and the time is almost instant,all it takes is a handseal and then he brings it out,with quantities enough to overpower shukaku and alter a landscape.

5) his skill with gold dust was known enough that onoki said he was a great leader and the 3rd raikage,who initially didnt recognise him,instantly recognized him after he stopped the sand tsunami because of his gold dust,whih means he must have had a reputation for that,his reactive skills to the attack prompted the mizukage to tell him that he came up with a counter quite quickly. Of all the kages including muu,a sensor,he was the only one who spoted the 3rd eye that gaara was using,showing a good level of clarity and sharp senses.

7) he was handpicked by kabuto to be an edo and was put alongside the other kages,all of which were high kage level shinobis,i doubt kabuto would bring him there if he was fodder.

6) in his fight against gaara,he easily kept up,blocking all of gaara's attacks despite the use of the gourd sand which is very fast, until gaara forced him to lower his defences by attacking all the other kage there,making him protect them and since he didnt have an auto defence,he was caught from below,but this trick has worked on gaara as well as seen with deidara,and when he saved mei and got attacked by the susanoos,and on kimimaro,and even madara too,when he was pulled out,even after getting caught,he still managed to get off a few attacks before allowing gaara to seal him.

7) he was able to copy techniques from shukaku's jin,which shows great skill and intelligence as minato also did the same with his rasengan,he was able to master the third eye tech, most definately could fly as well. Since gaara was a kid when he died and he himself taught gaara,he copied it from another jin,and he taught gaara ninjutsus which means he taught gaara most of his sand techniques in part 1.

8) kishi most likely trolled him greatly by making oro kill him,because there was no point in oro killing him,as he could aid gretaly and also provide funding. Kishi probably just figured that he would cause serious trouble to konoha. He could have escaped gaara's sealing tech by just mixing in gold dust within,just like he did with the sand tsunami.

I hope these points prove that the dude is no where near a weakling and deserves a high kage level status.[/QUOTE]
 

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tl;dr

I haven't even seen people mentioning him, let alone underrate him. He's not high kage level that's for sure
 

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he got owned offscreen my orochimaru.nhe sux.
 

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Nah, dude's utter wash.
 

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He was Gaara's daddy afterall.
 

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I think he's very strong
 

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He sucks.

- He needs to enter Jiton mode to do anything. You can fodderize him before that even happens.

- He can't do shit gaara can so don't extend gaara's abilities. He can't fly, he can't use sand hail, or sand arms otherwise he'd have used them. Especially the flying. The guy gets fodderized by any kage level shinobi. Only people he can beat are low level shinobi who rely on kunai and swords.
 

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Meh I felt he had a lot of untapped potential. Jiton is a powerful ability as shown with the Shodai Kazekage's Satetsu and the Sakin had a lot of potential. We've seen how powerful Gaara's sand is and the Sakin is said to be heavier than that which could make it even more powerful e.g. Sabaku Kyu or even a Ryusa Bakuryu would be immensely destructive and given the fact that he can control it just as fast as Gaara can makes it even more deadly. But to be honest none of us really expected an indepth character/skill development of the Fourth Kazekage from Kishi. He can stop Shukaku, manipulate Sakin and kill some fodder shinobi and apparently thats enough for Kishi.
 

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That was the anime. Oro mentioned Kabuto and Kimimaro helping him defeat the 4th kazekage
 

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That was the anime. Oro mentioned Kabuto and Kimimaro helping him defeat the 4th kazekage

I am not saying your wrong but you have a scan to support this claim?
 

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he got owned offscreen my orochimaru.nhe sux.
tobirama got off paneled,hashirama got killed off panel,3rd kazekage got killed off panel,muu and 2nd mizukage died off panel,3rd raikage died off panel,you were saying?

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fillers dont count

He sucks.

- He needs to enter Jiton mode to do anything. You can fodderize him before that even happens.

- He can't do shit gaara can so don't extend gaara's abilities. He can't fly, he can't use sand hail, or sand arms otherwise he'd have used them. Especially the flying. The guy gets fodderized by any kage level shinobi. Only people he can beat are low level shinobi who rely on kunai and swords.

nothing like jinton mode,when he uses his jinton he gets the rings around his eyes.
He was the one who taught gaara ninjutsu,he could use the 3rd eye as well,which is hell of a lot more complex than just shaping his gold. He actually used a gold arm against gaara and he did a gold dust wave which is just a gold version of the sand tsunami,yet simply levitating himself with gold,which a 13 year old gaara said was real easy to do and could always use it, would be impossible for a guy that actually taught gaara his techs in part 1 and copied his own techs from shukaku's jin IIRC.

He dosent have a mind of his own,3rd raikage taught darui the black lightening,but himself never showed it,does that mean he didnt have it?

Gaara didnt fly against sasuke or lee either,yet he said he could always do it. It is called plot.

Anyone whose ablt to oerpower a bijuu is at least mid kage
 

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considering his power is magnetism, his full potential might be magneto level.
he fought a bijuu one on one. not many can do that.
its entirely possible orochimaru caught him off guard. because we know kusanagi would just get magnetised. stupid anime writers
 

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He's just like Gaara. Tho restricting Shukaku is impressive
 

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He is incredibly underrated.
 

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completely underrated Zzz
 

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people here tend to say dumb shit when a character dies to further the plot but quickly get up in arms to defend their favs when the same things happens for instance the god of shinobi hashirama got killed at young age same with tobirama.
 

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people here tend to say dumb shit when a character dies to further the plot but quickly get up in arms to defend their favs when the same things happens for instance the god of shinobi hashirama got killed at young age same with tobirama.

yup pretty much
 

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Yeah he is underrated, but that's what happens when he gets killed by oro.
 
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