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the perfect idea just hit me on what kishi will do next k so it will start out with naruto walking and killing another pien then switch to a scene with sasuke going to konaha and leave us still hanging on the naruto vs. pien fight i mean we have to face it this fight is gonna last 10 chapters at least man kishi if u where a buger i whould eat u jk
 

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nah it was just a super huge version of the only good jutsu naruto knows lol i really dont get how naruto is so strong now i mean sage mode thats it jiraya had sage mode and was better at using he aslo had resangan why couldnt jiraya win
It has been said by pa toad that naruto is better at sage mode than J-man.
 

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nah it was just a super huge version of the only good jutsu naruto knows lol i really dont get how naruto is so strong now i mean sage mode thats it jiraya had sage mode and was better at using he aslo had resangan why couldnt jiraya win
He used Rasengan on he wrong guy, the one that absorbs techniques. Naruto actually has a much better Sage Mode than Jiraiya, and has Katsuyu telling him what he should do against every body. He is in a better situation than J-man.
 
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Jiraiya never mastered true sage arts, only hermit mode, which was similar but not the same as true sage mode.

Naruto is now so powerful because the natural energy he pulls into himself comes from everything around him, including Pain. Hence the more powerful the surroundings the more powerful he gets... Well thats just what I think anyway.

Also he has all the intel on Pain's bodies which Jiraiya didn't have so he won't make any wasted attacks.
 
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He used Rasengan on he wrong guy, the one that absorbs techniques. Naruto actually has a much better Sage Mode than Jiraiya, and has Katsuyu telling him what he should do against every body. He is in a better situation than J-man.
yup but seriously think about it how does this all add up k here i go

madra stronger then pien

madra weaker then first hokage

first hokage weaker then fourth hokage (im saying this cuz of the whole each generation is stronger deal)

makes fourth hokage stronger then madra

jiraya stronger then fourth

doesnt this make jiraya strongert them pien and naruto jesus like in this world
 
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