4 Hokage vs 4 Kage

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Instead of ay, 3rd raikage

instead of mei, 2nd mizukage

instead of onoki 2nd tsuchikage

instead of gaara 3rd kazekage


then we have a fight

Gaara by feats is stronger then 3rd

The 3rds hype was stated at beginning of shippuden ...

 

[Optimistic]

Tobirama > Gaara
Tsunade> Mei
Minato > Ay (manga fact)
Hiruzen > Onoki (manga fact)

Killed it .

 

[VongolaX]

Tobirama can take out two kages for himself...

Minato has beaten A countless times, Tsunade can beat Mei or Gaara, and Hiruzen can take out Mei....Maybe.

 

[Ultimateone]

hokage takes this one as many have already explained.

 

[lanakui8]

Minato has nothing to kill Ay without SM and boss summons. His rasengan isn't strong enough to scratch his body while Ay is using the raiton shroud.

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A minato rasengan to Ei's back is going to deal a lot of damage to him.

 

[Penguin]

Mei > Tobirama.

Lol please. Has she even gained enough feats to react to his speed, let alone Hiraishin? Tobirama comfortably takes any kage in this match up and same with Minato. Just the two are enough for this to be honest Lol.

 

[Gein]

The kage don't even stand a chance against Lord 4th

 

[Unorthodox]

Lol please. Has she even gained enough feats to react to his speed, let alone Hiraishin? Tobirama comfortably takes any kage in this match up and same with Minato. Just the two are enough for this to be honest Lol.

Gaara defeats either of the two

the kages win

Gaara can defeat minato or Tobirama
Onoki can lighten A making him faster to kill minato
Mei destroys tsunade with lava & acid onoki smack hiruzen rock golems and jinton is more than enough

 

[Dave Stevenson]

minato and tobirama take this there was no need for adding those two

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

minato and tobirama take this there was no need for adding those two

Gaara counters minato alone U_U at the very least pushing a fight between the 2 to high diff
From while back
"
i always believed gaara is a very good counter to minato (to those who think i'm his hater I like minato just not u fanboys,i also believe gaara is a very good counter to itachi as well)

the reason is,

1. his sands act as he wishes, unlike other elements that can not be solidified or those that can not be manipulated, or has less density.

2. his sands can become a shield, can become a spear. defence and offence, midrange and close range, all possible

3. minato can't tag his sands, because basically sands can disperse and come together as well, making his tags useless (to tag, one needs a surface, and there is no surface in the sand once gaara decides to change its form)

4. his ultimate defence, which he used against both sasuke and deidara, will need a very good attack to penetrate, and i don't think minato has such an attack(chidori was successful probably because it was lightning)

5. gaara, if i recall, should have quite good chakra reserve, as former jinchuriki. thus even in long battle he's not exactly in a disadvantage.

6. just like kisame, gaara can basically make any place his battle field with his sand to a certain extent, making things to his advantage, and unless you can fly, you're always going to be fighting the sand since you're stepping on it.

7. with that third eye, he doesn't need to reveal himself to the enemy and can always hide in his ultimate defence.

still minato is dangerous, smart, and fast, rasengan and hiraishin combo, all those dangerous seals and plus the shiki fujin, summons. Still say gaara wins


Toads can hop all they want the bigger the target the easier it is cetch them -_-

Gaara's sand is fast enough to block and 'swallow up' Minato's kunai. Minato doesn't want to teleport into Gaara's sand, doesn't he?

Gaara's third eye prevents Minato's attempt to sneak up behind. Any location with earth (90 percent of wear ppl woyld fight)Location favors Gaara also. He can grind more sand from the ground and send a sand tsunami at Minato, making Minato's tags on surroundings useless.



The only way I c minato winning is because of gamabunta withy he oil thts it but gaara hasn't let tht stop him with the 2nd mizukage who has more oil and better uses of it then gamabunta who just spits it out and minato wouldn't know about oil being gaara weakness cuz well he wasn't in the war lml plus gamabunta wouldn't just use it out of no where it's for a combo attack mixed with fire"

 

[Yocolaw]

Instead of ay, 3rd raikage

instead of mei, 2nd mizukage

instead of onoki 2nd tsuchikage

instead of gaara 3rd kazekage


then we have a fight

i did this tred here and got bashed

 

[Touken]

The Hokage win comfortably.

 

[Bantos]

Tsunade > Ay
Tobirama > Mei
Hiruzen < Gaara
Minato > Onoki

Gaara is the problem here, with Onoki of course. I mean, they're bound to work together, but so are the hokage. :|

Hmmm.

I say the hokage team takes this.

 

[DMT]

Gaara by feats is stronger then 3rd

The 3rds hype was stated at beginning of shippuden ...

Well, you are right I think gaara is the only
current kage who can stomp his village past kazekages lol

 

[FlashReturns]

Gaara counters minato alone U_U at the very least pushing a fight between the 2 to high diff
From while back
"
i always believed gaara is a very good counter to minato (to those who think i'm his hater I like minato just not u fanboys,i also believe gaara is a very good counter to itachi as well)

the reason is,

1. his sands act as he wishes, unlike other elements that can not be solidified or those that can not be manipulated, or has less density.

2. his sands can become a shield, can become a spear. defence and offence, midrange and close range, all possible

3. minato can't tag his sands, because basically sands can disperse and come together as well, making his tags useless (to tag, one needs a surface, and there is no surface in the sand once gaara decides to change its form)

4. his ultimate defence, which he used against both sasuke and deidara, will need a very good attack to penetrate, and i don't think minato has such an attack(chidori was successful probably because it was lightning)

5. gaara, if i recall, should have quite good chakra reserve, as former jinchuriki. thus even in long battle he's not exactly in a disadvantage.

6. just like kisame, gaara can basically make any place his battle field with his sand to a certain extent, making things to his advantage, and unless you can fly, you're always going to be fighting the sand since you're stepping on it.

7. with that third eye, he doesn't need to reveal himself to the enemy and can always hide in his ultimate defence.

still minato is dangerous, smart, and fast, rasengan and hiraishin combo, all those dangerous seals and plus the shiki fujin, summons. Still say gaara wins


Toads can hop all they want the bigger the target the easier it is cetch them -_-

Gaara's sand is fast enough to block and 'swallow up' Minato's kunai. Minato doesn't want to teleport into Gaara's sand, doesn't he?

Gaara's third eye prevents Minato's attempt to sneak up behind. Any location with earth (90 percent of wear ppl woyld fight)Location favors Gaara also. He can grind more sand from the ground and send a sand tsunami at Minato, making Minato's tags on surroundings useless.



The only way I c minato winning is because of gamabunta withy he oil thts it but gaara hasn't let tht stop him with the 2nd mizukage who has more oil and better uses of it then gamabunta who just spits it out and minato wouldn't know about oil being gaara weakness cuz well he wasn't in the war lml plus gamabunta wouldn't just use it out of no where it's for a combo attack mixed with fire"

Minato slaughters Gaara. He's far too fast for him. Gaara would need to hide in his sand dome which Minato could easily get around. You claim that the sand would shift and have no surface but without a doubt his sand dome does. Minato can easily mark it, teleport the sand dome and proceed to destroy Gaara who would be defenseless in that situation. That is just one scenario. There really isnt a realistic scenario Gaara would defeat Minato...

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Minato slaughters Gaara. He's far too fast for him. Gaara would need to hide in his sand dome which Minato could easily get around. You claim that the sand would shift and have no surface but without a doubt his sand dome does. Minato can easily mark it, teleport the sand dome and proceed to destroy Gaara who would be defenseless in that situation. That is just one scenario. There really isnt a realistic scenario Gaara would defeat Minato...

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thank u for your illogical opinion based statement that countered nothing that I said it further decreased my faith on the base having more then a few intelligent debaters as well as further destroying my faith in 2014 members (save a few) U_U

 

[BloodSeed]

Minato has nothing to kill Ay without SM and boss summons. His rasengan isn't strong enough to scratch his body while Ay is using the raiton shroud.

LMFAO! Ay can tank minato's rasengan lol

minato solo's the kages onoki will flee on sight, Ay run like a coward thinking no one can surpass minato, mei will be blinded in his pure awesomeness. gaara will know why naruto defeated him. and where he gets his genes of pawnage

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

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A minato rasengan to Ei's back is going to deal a lot of damage to him.

chidori has more piericng power and it was Ays element there for didnt really have to bypass it it went right through it

 

[lanakui8]

chidori has more piericng power and it was Ays element there for didnt really have to bypass it it went right through it

doesn't matter if chidori has more piercing power, base naruto's rasengan is chidori's equal thus it does just as much damage to ei, and minato's does far more.

Are you asserting that any raiton will go right through Ei's shroud simply because it's the same element? If so, by what reason?

 

[FlashReturns]

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thank u for your illogical opinion based statement that countered nothing that I said it further decreased my faith on the base having more then a few intelligent debaters as well as further destroying my faith in 2014 members (save a few) U_U

I could literally counter everything you say about Gaara vs Minato. Manga wise Minato is far superior than Gaara, thats an established fact. When the power is that different no imaginary matchup advantage is going to save Gaara. Minato is capable of taking on atleast two high Kage level ninja, Gaara struggles with 1 high Kage ninja. They are not on the same tier, in fact they are more than just a tier apart. Minato saved his village from Obito and Kurama, Gaara would have had his village destroyed if that was Deidaras intention, huge difference. With all that being said I didnt feel the need to go in depth as the winner should be obvious. The date you join this site has nothing to do with how well you debate either...I could have easily been a member since 2010 and made a new account for the hell of it...

There were so many things wrong with your inital post I didnt feel like addressing it all. If you would like to actually debunk your flawed thinking of Gaara having the capabilities of defeating Minato I'm all for it. Now to the points you mentioned.

1. His sand acts as he wishes and involuntarily protects him as well, this is correct. This would only be useful defensively to an extent as Minato would be able to exploit it but I'll get to that later. Gaaras sand is never going to catch Minato who has some of the most impressive reflexes, sensing abilities, and speed in the series, and thats not with me factoring in FTG.

2. Again Gaara sand offense is never going to catch Minato, close range offensively is out the question due to Minatos speed and reflexes. Mid to long range is out the question as Minato can either evade or teleport it away with Space Time Barrier with ease.

3. This is merely an assumption by you. I wont comment much on that as it hasnt been supported either way if Minato can tag his sand because it would disperse. All I will say is that Gaara would need to know his sand was tagged in order to counter it. Also Gaara sand has had seals on it before, albeit by him himself, but still theoretically it is possible.

4. Gaara ultimately would need to use his Ultimate Defense in order to with stand Minatos attacks, especially if Minato starts using Shadow Clones to surround Gaara, possibly even his unseen Howling Dance. Without that Sand Dome Minato would overwhelm Gaara quite easily. However Sand Dome would easily lead to Gaaras defeat. Minato without a doubt can tag his Sand Dome. Once that's done its easily teleported away leaving Gaara defenseless.

5. Moot point as Minato also has an amazing chakra supply which is evident because he can enter Sage Mode. The amount of chakra someone has will not determine the winner of this fight.

6. Yes Gaara can make the sand his battlefield but again Minato has the skills to counter that. Even a sick Kimmimaro was able to do so with relative ease despite already fighting two opponents.

7. His 3rd eye can only watch one direction at a time. It's like a normal eye. He would not be able to follow Minatos movements with his eyes already, making him use 1 eye just hinders him. Minato also can further disrupt that technique by using shadow clones. Gaara would only be able to follow 1 clone at the most.

Minato is smart enough to recognize all these advantages he has over Gaara and has the power to execute any and all of them.

This how Minato defeats Gaara, with relative ease in my opinion. Minato throws a Kunai at Gaara, Gaara blocks it with his sand like this.

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That is how Gaara blocks all projectiles. This leaves him open to Minato teleporting to the FTG area and exploit the opening left behind due to missing sand from intercepting the marked kunai. Obito with Kumai was unable to react, Gaara and his sand wouldn't be able to either.

His summons are good for more than hopping...Minato can use Food Cart Destroyer forcing Gaara to use a massive amount of sand to protect himself. Both Gambunta and the toad Jiriaya summoned for it would force Gaara to do so. They are both much bigger than this

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and Gaara used so much sand for that alone...also on that page you can see how exposed Gaara is, that invites a blitz from Minato via body flicker or FTG via Kunai throw. Gaara would not be able to react.

There is always a chance that any summon Minato may use could possibly attack with oil, Minato would surely notice it if it does happen as even no named characters noticed it. And its common knowledge oil makes sand heavier and clump together. It's easily possible that Minato, Fukasaku, or Shima would know this with their vast knowledge and analysis capabilities of that weakness of sand.

Minato also has access to every toad summon so its possible for him to utilize the toad sages for their sound techniques, Frog Song and Toad Chant, Gaara being a stationary fighter is very susceptible to both attacks. Shima also can block Gaaras vision with her dust cloud technique.