3t Madara vs MS Itachi

[Byakuren]

Yes i'm talking about that scan, and madara used preta path there. He also used susano without eyes.. nothing of that manga amazes me anymore... that arc is a pile of shit

Once you have something, you permanently keep it; can't lose it. Kishimoto even stated this in an interview.

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[EZQ]

Once you have something, you permanently keep it; can't lose it. Kishimoto even stated this in an interview.

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And that's why i said, Madara without eyes can use preta path. Dox thinks that 3 tomoe alive madara can as well because rinnegan is not needed.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Not exactly, that version of madara already unlocked susano and preta (they are abilities that once unlocked can be used without eyes) we already saw itachi use susano without sharingan, samething madara did, likewise preta, since madara used it, it seems it falls in that category (cuz the techniques does'nt really require them to see to use, unlike amaterasu, tsukiyomi, kotoamatsukami etc)

you need rinnegan to use preta because wouldn't that imply he doesn't need the actual rinnegan in his eye socket to use it's techs then Madara wound't have made a big deal about the rinnegan back. Madara just had some weird convient plot-given ability to absorb chakra :lol.

 

[Uchihakil]

you need rinnegan to use preta because wouldn't that imply he doesn't need the actual rinnegan in his eye socket to use it's techs then Madara wound't have made a big deal about the rinnegan back. Madara just had some weird convient plot-given ability to absorb chakra :lol.

Not exactly, as I told you earlier, there are techniques that require the eye itself whether or not you've awakened the doujutsu like limbo/ama/tsukiyomi/kamui/koto (since you got to project it with your eyes), while others, like susano, and preta can be used without the use of the particular doujutsu once awakened, like susano/preta/outerpath rods etc madara can't be at full power without the eyes