^ I'll ask you again - why are you denying manga scans? The manga states that they were teleporated at that speed, which would make it an instant teleportation. There is a convo and scans to prove it. I am not getting into a pointless debate based on nitpicking.
What is it I'm denying again? The notion that Madara can react to speeds of light when he's been taken down by objects moving at much, much slower speeds?
^ I don't even ... I said "Speed of Light Teleportation". Again, FTG is also instant. Does that mean people cannot react to Minato and Tobirama, when they have shown to do so? Bee did it twice, easily. Madara did it for Tobirama. It's common sense really - that I am repeating, yet again - that AFTER the Teleportation it's a matter of self-speed.
But fact is fact, Madara did react to Speed of Light Teleporatation of Tsunade and Ae. They popped out of no where. His Sharngan was blinded by Light, Muu got smashed into the small hill despite being - bar Karin - one of a kind sensor, and him evading KCM Naruto from behind proves so. Yet, he still reacted. That says a lot about his Reaction rates.
^ I don't even ... I said "Speed of Light Teleportation". Again, FTG is also instant. Does that mean people cannot react to Minato and Tobirama, when they have shown to do so? Bee did it twice, easily. Madara did it for Tobirama. It's common sense really - that I am repeating, yet again - that AFTER the Teleportation it's a matter of self-speed.
But fact is fact, Madara did react to Speed of Light Teleporatation of Tsunade and Ae. They popped out of no where. His Sharngan was blinded by Light, Muu got smashed into the small hill despite being - bar Karin - one of a kind sensor, and him evading KCM Naruto from behind proves so. Yet, he still reacted. That says a lot about his Reaction rates.
I still think the duo takes it but Kakashi's suiton wall wasn't enough to negate Kakazu's fuuton + katon jutsu, which isn't at the scale of Madara's katon.
No lol Kakashi already stated it was because of fusioned attack.fuuton+katon is light years above Madara's katon.Just his fuuton itself is destructive as hell, adding Zukkoku make it overpowered.
But fact is fact, Madara did react to Speed of Light Teleporatation of Tsunade and Ae. They popped out of no where. His Sharngan was blinded by Light, Muu got smashed into the small hill despite being - bar Karin - one of a kind sensor, and him evading KCM Naruto from behind proves so. Yet, he still reacted. That says a lot about his Reaction rates.
It's got nothing to do with reactions. Zilch. Nothing. Zero. If you claim he reacted to it, it means he put his guard up after Tsunade and Ay appeared. Did he put his guard up before they appeared? No. It's been shown that a flash of light appears right before the object being teleported appears. What does this mean? It means that Madara put his guard up due to the flash of light, meaning he put his guard up before Tsunade and Ay appeared, therefore, it means he didn't react to light speeds at all, since he put his guard up before they attacked. It's the same notion as when you automatically shield your eyes with your hands when someone is flashing a light at you.
^ Now you're just arguing for the sake of it. I already explained my stance through the examples of FTG. If there is something you cannot understand, go thoroughly through my previous post.
^ I am not sure what your point is. The manga states that they teleported there at the Speed of Light. Nothing disputes it, so they did. Muu is great at evading, as he evaded an attack from behind from KCM Naruto. His sensing gives him an edge. The Teleportation was instant, what happened afterwards is the same as FTG. Minato and Tobirama teleport instantly with FTG, but when the arrive at the point, they obviously do not move at the same speed themselves.
Point remains, Madara did react to 'Speed of Light' Teleportation. It's a huge feat.
You're unbelievably dense. Nobody is NV is above hypersonic. Madara has no reaction feats in battle which puts him above hypersonic level. Those light speed travel scans are pure BS, they are completely irrelevant in battle. In battle, only battle feats are relevant
You're unbelievably dense. Nobody is NV is above hypersonic. Madara has no reaction feats in battle which puts him above hypersonic level. Those light speed travel scans are pure BS, they are completely irrelevant in battle. In battle, only battle feats are relevant
No body in Naruto Verse is anywhere near Hypersonic as far as the bodily stats go, excluding FTG. Most of you children are so incredibly moronic that they do not even know how to calculate Sonic speeds. They do so by copy pasting that stupid Wikipedia formula, not knowing that there are a few constants in the full formula of calculating Sonic speed which do not even exist in Narutoverse.
So don't call someone dense, whilst making supremely idiotic claims yourself. Also, I couldn't care less about a guy who claims that his own opinions outweigh Manga scans. The fact that he reacted to two people who popped up after being 'Teleporting at the Speed of Light' speaks volumes. It's the manga's word. Yours? Nobody should give a damn about.
No body in Naruto Verse is anywhere near Hypersonic as far as the bodily stats go, excluding FTG. Most of you children are so incredibly moronic that they do not even know how to calculate Sonic speeds. They do so by copy pasting that stupid Wikipedia formula, not knowing that there are a few constants in the full formula of calculating Sonic speed which do not even exist in Narutoverse.
So don't call someone dense, whilst making supremely idiotic claims yourself. Also, I couldn't care less about a guy who claims that his own opinions outweigh Manga scans. The fact that he reacted to two people who popped up after being 'Teleporting at the Speed of Light' speaks volumes. It's the manga's word. Yours? Nobody should give a damn about.
^ So you suffer from reading comprehensions as well. Do tell where I even said Tsunade and Ae attacked Madara at Speed of Light? Looks like you have bigger problems.
Why don't you make your own scans then, so we can all see things your way. Listen to this guy - Manga scans have no value.
^ So you suffer from reading comprehensions as well. Do tell where I even said Tsunade and Ae attacked Madara at Speed of Light? Looks like you have bigger problems.
Don't jump into conclusion based on one scan. Madara could not even avoid Might Gai's kicks and Naruto's lava rasen shuriken later on. That scan is heavily contradicted by later showing in the manga. Naruto manga has good track record of contradiction
Alrighty. Here's why earth wall protects kakashi from maddy's fireballs.
Despite how big Madara uchiha's fireballs are in terms of destructive capabilities...its lacking.
We've seen the effects that uchiha itachi's fireballs have on the landscape. Even at 30% his grand fireball jutsu carved out a considerable part of the floor, and left the ground smoldering.Yet kakashi still noted that its weaker than usual.
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A 100% Itachi's katon was only overpowered by a curse mark sasuke's who while using curse mark also incinerated rocks and structures in its wake:
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Madara on the other hand has failed to burn through wood even though wood is highly flammable:
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Failed to burn through rocks or make any noticeable change in the landscape(both the ones smashed into the fireballs themselves by the juubi and the ones jutting from the floor):
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Even when his prowess was fist showcased the fodder water nin were not worried about its power but its range:
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Despite its size the sand that garra's division was standing on didnt turn to glass nor was it incinerated or melted by maddy's fireball.
If its not powerful enough to change the landscape its not powerful enough to effect constructs made by said landscape. Or in simpler terms if it cant burn mere rocks or pebbles why would it burn through a wall made of the same material?
Itachi's katon did not incinerate the structures there.
The huge mokuton structures caught on fire but fire doesn't burn through wood *just like that*, firewood irl for example.
Madara's katon distorted buffed up Kyuubi cloaks, which by logic is > earth walls.
I would like to add that those Itachi examples are from a 30% clone, whose Jutsu and strength were at 30%. Yet it tore up the earth anyway. Kakashi's little wall protecting against Madara whose Katon was massive is such a baseless claim.
He's using raikage and tsunade's light speed transmission scan to show madara's reaction speed. Naruto and Gai are nowhere near the speed of light, Madara got spanked by their attacks.
He's using raikage and tsunade's light speed transmission scan to show madara's reaction speed. Naruto and Gai are nowhere near the speed of light, Madara got spanked by their attacks.
The Katon is extremely large - it's in form of waves. It will wash all over his measly little Doton wall, burning both Kakashi and Gai to a crisp. There is just no getting around this.
