[VS] 3T Kakashi vs Orochimaru

[Nattana]

Orochimaru stomps.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I agree he cant beat Orochimaru,but dont compare him to the fodder that is Tsunade

That fodder has a summon that would reck kakashi...

 

[Kushina san]

Oro wins, Kakashi is overrated for me.

Also, in the war arc Kishi has filled him with power ups without reason, making him lose credibility as a ninja.

 

[KidGamer65]

It carries actual substance and mass making it harder to see through...Different from the ordinary clone technique. Shadow clones don't carry actual mass in them unless you can show me where? I'll wait and I'm rest assured you won't find it anywhere.

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[Apêx1]

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Lmfaoooo I was wondering if I should bother quoting him or not.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lmfaoooo I was wondering if I should bother quoting him or not.

Right. Because clones that can interact with the world, apply force to other objects/people and are perfect copies of the user don't have mass...... Was a good one tho, I'll admit that much.

 

[Beans2]

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Are all these smaller pictures, supposed to form a bigger picture? Cause I'm color blind, and dont see it.

 

[KidGamer65]

Are all these smaller pictures, supposed to form a bigger picture? Cause I'm color blind, and dont see it.

Yeah. They're smaller facepalm pics and when you look at it it makes the facepalm pic of that guy from star trek.

 

[Beans2]

Yeah. They're smaller facepalm pics and when you look at it it makes the facepalm pic of that guy from star trek.

Lmaoo. Now I see it.

 

[Nattana]

Right. Because clones that can interact with the world, apply force to other objects/people and are perfect copies of the user don't have mass...... Was a good one tho, I'll admit that much.

Pure chakra also can interact with the world, apply force to other objects/people but it doesn't have mass, so your arguments are useless.

But I believe Shadow Clones were stated to be made out of a substance imitating human body, so in the end they do have mass.

 

[Draegod]

Are ppl actually arguing for KAkashi? lmmfao

 

[KidGamer65]

Chakra also can interact with the world, apply force to other objects/people but it doesn't have mass, so your arguments are useless.

But I believe Shadow Clones were stated to be made out of a substance imitating human body, so in the end they do have mass.

Lmao. Don't. When chakra is in a form that it can apply force to other objects/people, and can interact with the world, it obviously has mass.

-Susanoo is pure chakra. It has mass.
-Naruto's Avatar is pure chakra. It has mass.

So you are wrong.

 

[Haizaki]

First off shadow clones have mass.

That was based on how the DB specifically singles out that aspect when making comparisons between Ink clones and the normal clone technique. Meanwhile it only singles out substance used to create the clones when comparing the Shadow with the normal. I'll concede because I realized ordinary clone techniques cannot attack.

Second off it having a medium(ink) makes it easier to see through than pure chakra.

False.

The Ink carries chakra as stated in that Entry I showed.

The only clones that are on shadow clones level in terms of "see through ability" is wood.

No?

The reason why it is difficult the see through is mainly because of the substance and mass. That's all..It's level is irrelevant.

That's why it says..It has actual substance and Mass making it harder to see through than the clone technique. These factors are what makes it hard to see through and not the levels. or whatever you're trying to bring in.

 

[Nattana]

Lmao. Don't. When chakra is in a form that it can apply force to other objects/people, and can interact with the world, it obviously has mass.

-Susanoo is pure chakra. It has mass.
-Naruto's Avatar is pure chakra. It has mass.

So you are wrong.

Okay, agreed. I just remembered how Kyuubiruto ate his TBB and it made him unable to move due to its mass.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

That was based on how the DB specifically singles out that aspect when making comparisons between Ink clones and the normal clone technique. Meanwhile it only singles out substance used to create the clones when comparing the Shadow with the normal. I'll concede because I realized ordinary clone techniques cannot attack.





False.

The Ink carries chakra as stated in that Entry I showed.



No?

The reason why it is difficult the see through is mainly because of the substance and mass. That's all..It's level is irrelevant.

That's why it says..It has actual substance and Mass making it harder to see through than the clone technique. These factors are what makes it hard to see through and not the levels. or whatever you're trying to bring in.

Ordinary clones are the only clone that lack mass. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

Nope it's true. All clones using a medium contains the users chakra. It wouldn't put it on the level of shadow clone since the chakra levels between the two are not the same.

No. the reason why it's difficult it because all things are equal. Down to chakra level. Where as ink clones don't have that. What you also failed to take into consideration was the possibility that oro's snakes simply sensed both sai and the clone and made a simple deduction.

 

[Apêx1]

The clone technique that the DB refers to is the one that was shown during the Genin exam. Any fodder can do that one, and no it does not have mass. It's not comparable to a shadow clone which is a

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of the user.

 

[EZQ]

That fodder has a summon that would reck kakashi...

I hope this statement is only for 3 tomoe kakashi since MS Kakashi shits on tsunade and katsuyu.

 

[EZQ]

Yeah. They're smaller facepalm pics and when you look at it it makes the facepalm pic of that guy from star trek.

I can't see it damn

 

[History]

Are people arguing for Kakashi or just this clone argument because it does not matter.

 

[Joker]

-Summons are not killing someone on Kakashi's tier, Genjutsu takes care of Manda without trouble, Hydra is even easier given the amount of eyes it has which all link back to Orochimaru's own brain (he IS the Hydra).

-1000 snakes are either outright evaded via Hiding like a Mole or

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to clear them with ease.

-Kusanagi sword is completely countered via Kakashi's Raiton Bunshin, metal conducts and Orochimaru would be vulnerable to an attack while he's paralysed.

Is Kakashi event efficient in genjutsu?