[Tier] 3t gauntlet

[sayian]

rank them

3t hebi sasuke
3t war arc sasuke(ems)
3t itachi (serious)
3t madara
3t kakashi
3t obito

restrict: no sharingan genjutsu. no mangekyou or rinnegan techniques. no manda, kyuubi, aoda or hawk summon.
location: orochimaru hideout - roof destroyed.
special notes: itachi health is stable but stamina amount remains the same prior to fighting hebi sasuke.

 

[Apathetic]

rank them

3t hebi sasuke
3t war arc sasuke(ems)
3t itachi
3t madara
3t kakashi
3t obito

restrict: no sharingan genjutsu. no mangekyou or rinnegan techniques. no manda or hawk summon.
location: orochimaru hideout - roof destroyed.
special notes: itachi health is stable but stamina amount remains the same prior to fighting hebi sasuke.

Healthy Itachi references his complete performance in the war correct? Therefore his battle with Naruto, B, Nagato, and Kabuto?

3T Madara
3T War Arc Sasuke
3T Itachi
3T Obito
3T Hebi Sasuke
3T Kakashi

 

[Zetsu God]

Healthy Itachi references his complete performance in the war correct? Therefore his battle with Naruto, B, Nagato, and Kabuto?

3T Madara
3T War Arc Sasuke
3T Itachi
3T Obito
3T Hebi Sasuke
3T Kakashi

This seems about right to me, however I think some might argue switching Itachi and Obito. I wouldn't, though.

 

[Apathetic]

This seems about right to me, however I think some might argue switching Itachi and Obito. I wouldn't, though.

Perhaps.

 

[KidGamer65]

1. Madara
2. Obito
3. Sasuke (War)
4. Itachi
5. Sasuke (Hebi)
6. Kakashi

-Madara is 1 for obvious reasons.
-Obito is 2 for his Katon and barrier jutsu, and Izanagi.
-Sasuke is 3 because of superior feats to his hebi counterpart.

The rest don't need an explanation.

 

[BLAZE]

-Obito is 2 for his Katon and barrier jutsu, and Izanagi.

do you think obito can use massive katon's only becoz of hashirama's cells or he can use that without it too

 

[Zetsu God]

do you think obito can use massive katon's only becoz of hashirama's cells or he can use that without it too

My money's on Hashirama's cells boosting all his jutsu.

 

[BLAZE]

My money's on Hashirama's cells boosting all his jutsu.

becoz i doubt hashirama's cells boosts size of jutsu.Danzo's fuuton's weren't boosted by it

 

[DHOH]

No sharingan means nothing but terrible assumptions.

 

[Zetsu God]

becoz i doubt hashirama's cells boosts size of jutsu.Danzo's fuuton's weren't boosted by it

How do you know Danzo's fuuton weren't boosted? Did you see his fuuton before he got the cells?

 

[BLAZE]

How do you know Danzo's fuuton weren't boosted? Did you see his fuuton before he got the cells?

considering his fuuton were nowhere close to obito's katon that was near juubi sized.they were just reqular fuuton sized jutsu

 

[Apathetic]

considering his fuuton were nowhere close to obito's katon that was near juubi sized.they were just reqular fuuton sized jutsu

Mere Fūton, doesn't stop a Susano'o. Hashirama's cells probably had some effect regarding his Ninjutsu.

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[Zetsu God]

considering his fuuton were nowhere close to obito's katon that was near juubi sized.they were just reqular fuuton sized jutsu

You're comparing apples and oranges.

It's the original power of the attack that determines it's size after being boosted. Let's say that Hashi's cells give a 2x boost to jutsu.

Obito's Katon originally a 10 becomes a 20.
Danzo's fuuton originally a 5 becomes a 10.

The numerical values are purely representational, obviously. But you should be able to get what I'm saying here.

Mere Fūton, doesn't stop a Susano'o (looking for the scan). Hashirama's cells probably had some effect regarding his Ninjutsu.

Good point.

 

[sayian]

1. Madara
2. Obito
3. Sasuke (War)
4. Itachi
5. Sasuke (Hebi)
6. Kakashi

-Madara is 1 for obvious reasons.
-Obito is 2 for his Katon and barrier jutsu, and Izanagi.
-Sasuke is 3 because of superior feats to his hebi counterpart.

The rest don't need an explanation.

Healthy Itachi references his complete performance in the war correct? Therefore his battle with Naruto, B, Nagato, and Kabuto?

3T Madara
3T War Arc Sasuke
3T Itachi
3T Obito
3T Hebi Sasuke
3T Kakashi

So is some of his ems feats carries over to 3tomoe as well? like faster shunshin that puts him above itachi and his feints?

No sharingan means nothing but terrible assumptions.

it's allowed

 

[BLAZE]

Mere Fūton, doesn't stop a Susano'o (looking for the scan). Hashirama's cells probably had some effect regarding his Ninjutsu.

it never stopped susanoo or even moved it from its position.The only thing it did was slice the first layer of it making a small opening

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Fūton: Shinkūha and Fūton: Shinkū Renpa

Sharp blades of vacuum breath force cut down the enemy.

Danzo's strong point is to use a variety of Fuuton. From the mouth one spurts out sharp breath, like the Kamaitachi*, at the target's body, chakra defenses are torn to pieces. On occasion "Shinkū Renpa" released by a large breath that is vomited out, the Susnao'o defense is succesfuly destroyed by a disastrous impregnable attack that's like a Kamaitachi herd.

Shinkū Renpa releases a kamaitachi towards the opponent's body, chakra is cut down! A animal can be summoned to utilize it's power, which increases it's strength.

*Kaimetachi refers to how in myth there were three weasels that wiped up whirlwinds capable of cutting through everything.

You're comparing apples and oranges.
It's the original power of the attack that determines it's size after being boosted. Let's say that Hashi's cells give a 2x boost to jutsu.
Obito's Katon originally a 10 becomes a 20.
Danzo's fuuton originally a 5 becomes a 10.

The numerical values are purely representational, obviously. But you should be able to get what I'm saying here.

this more likely 100

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[Zetsu God]

this more likely 100

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I . . . legitimately cannot tell if you're joking.

The numerical values are purely representational, obviously. But you should be able to get what I'm saying here.

You should be able to get what I'm saying here.

 

[Amenotejikara]

How do you know Danzo's fuuton weren't boosted? Did you see his fuuton before he got the cells?

Probably, hashi cells and even orochi's cells were shown to strengthen ninjutsu.

 

[Zetsu God]

Probably, hashi cells and even orochi's cells were shown to strengthen ninjutsu.

Yeah I'm pretty sure this was explicitly said at one point, wasn't it?

 

[BLAZE]

I . . . legitimately cannot tell if you're joking.



You should be able to get what I'm saying here.

Becoz the size of danzo's jutsu is that of a normal fuuton used by jounins unlike obito's

Do you have the scan saying hashi's cell strengthen ninjutsu becoz I don't

 

[Hashiroids]

do you think obito can use massive katon's only becoz of hashirama's cells or he can use that without it too

Hashirama's cells have never increased the power of anybody's jutsu. It's only given people better stamina, healing, and the ability to use mokuton.