3rd Raikage's Raiton Armor

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I just want to state that I think Raiton Armor is an Amazing ability before I start ripping into some of you Fanboys out there.

Now with that said if I see one more post about how the 3rd Raikage is possibly the strongest Kage because you can't hurt him I will claw my eyes out.

Lets analyze the 3rd Raikage's Raiton armor in full detail then we can break down the 3rd's weaknesses, because yes he has weaknesses just like every ninja in the manga. The raiton armor is a high defense technique that requires a constant stream of chakra to maintain. The armor becomes a barrier and increases the users speed as well. That being said it can be used as both offensive and defensive making it a very appealing high level ability.

Basically this means that the 3rd Raikage's main strengths are his physical attack, his speed, his physical defense and his stamina. His stamina is high because it takes an a ton of chakra to maintain raiton armor for a long period of time.

The keys to beating the 3rd Raikage are simple. If you can beat him in every category he has you have a chance at beating him. That being said we haven't seen anyone with a defensive ability that rivals being able to shut down a Wind Release Rasen Shuriken, so with that being said trying to out defense him would be very difficult.

Weakness number 1 would be genjutsu. Truly skilled ninja can cancel out a lot of genjutsu with enough intelligence to determine what they are being fooled with. So if Raikage can see through the genjutsu he has a chance to beat you still. A high level genjutsu user such as an Uchiha of Itachi,Madara, Sasake, or Tobi's level could easily dispatch the 3rd Raikage using genjutsu to their advantage. Amaterasu should it hit would not be stopped by the raiton armor either. So an Uchiha would make for a difficult fight for the 3rd Raikage.

Weakness number 2 would be any technique or ability that can drain chakra. Samehada would be very effective against the 3rd because just getting close to the 3rd would drain his armor and reduce both his physical defense and speed by consuming the chakra he draws on to maintain his armor. A character with the ability of shino and his bugs would be effective draining the raikages armor. Not saying shino could beat the 3rd raikage, but an ability similar to his or him working in combination with someone else could certainly make the 3rd's Raiton Armor a nonfactor.

Weakness number 3
Someone with the speed of the 4th Hokage Minato could just dodge his opponent long enough for the 3rd's chakra to run out. Essentially if you can avoid the 3rd's attacks for long enough eventually his chakra will fall below the limit for him to be able to maintain his armor effectively. In succession with this anyone with equal speed to him and more stamina could essentially out last his armor. For instance if the 4th Raikage could avoid the 3rd for a long enough period of time he could possibly outlast him on stamina alone. Naruto would probably be able to out last his stamina will maintaining enough speed to avoid him in this way.

Weakness number 4, and this is the last one I promise. A high level wind technique on the level of Wind Release Rasen Shuriken has been shown to cancel the Raikage's ability to maintain his armor. It is clear that when Naruto's shuriken hits the Raikage he stops glowing showing that his armor was canceled out. So in conclusion to shurikens in a row or a shuriken followed by any physical justsu could manage to damage the Raikage. That being said had Naruto tossed two WR Ransen Shuriken in a row at him Raikage would have be laying on the ground in pieces waiting for edo to put him back together like all the rest.

In conclusion the 3rd Raikage is truly a formidable opponent, but there are ways to harm even him. Non physical attacks are the most obvious, but even every technique has it weakness and every opponent can find the one person than can easily counter their techniques.
 
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The wind shuriken stopped his armor because he was an Edo.

The shuriken destroys the person's ability to use chakra.

So he would have been finished right there if he was not an Edo.

The only reason he got it all back was because Edo's have unlimited chakra replenish etc etc.
 

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I agree with weakness 1 and 2. But 3 and 4? Rasen Shuriken didnt even harm Raikage.. Also, i think avoiding the 3rd raikage would be a waste of chakra as well.

Very powerful long range wind justu's could probally give the third trouble..

EDIT: Possibly the third could of gotten back up due to Edo Tensei's giving of unlimited chakra..
 

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i agree but 2 flaws shinos bugs can't penetrate the armor and he fought 10000 shinobi for 3 days and nights there is no one that can out do him in stamina so thats not a weakness
 
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The wind shuriken stopped his armor because he was an Edo.

The shuriken destroys the person's ability to use chakra.

So he would have been finished right there if he was not an Edo.

The only reason he got it all back was because Edo's have unlimited chakra replenish etc etc.
Though I agree with you, we don't know this for sure. Yes it would technically cut off his chakra network and every single manga scan of a rasen shuriken hitting has shown a tremendous amount of physical damage except for the hit on 3rd raikage, so that being said many have made the argument that the abilities simply canceled each other out. There is no way to prove this other wise. So instead of using theory I simply went with what the manga shows as absolute, and that is that rasen shuriken turned off his raiton armor.
 

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OMG I dont mean to disappoint u but in fact the III Raikage never stay still and wait for his opponent to take advantage of his weaknesses. The III Raikage in my opinion is one of the fastest ninjas in this manga. Shino? maybe 2 secs for Raikage =.='
 
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i agree but 2 flaws shinos bugs can't penetrate the armor and he fought 10000 shinobi for 3 days and nights there is no one that can out do him in stamina so thats not a weakness
Shino bugs absorb chakra and his lightning armor is made or pure chakra mixed with lightning the same as Wind Release Rasen Shuriken, so I respectfully disagree with this point. He did fight 10000 fodder shinobi for 3 days and 3 nights, but we do not see him using raiton armor for the duration. A feat I believe would be impossible. Though I believe it is true he prob has more stamina than most. His chakra pool is the stamina I put into question. A high level technique probably cannot be maintained for a long duration. Naruto with all the Kyubbi's chakra has only been able to use fewer than 10 rasen shuriken so far without reaching his limit. An ability that is arguably equal to the chakra output of Raiton armor.
 
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OMG I dont mean to disappoint u but in fact the III Raikage never stay still and wait for his opponent to take advantage of his weaknesses. The III Raikage in my opinion is one of the fastest ninjas in this manga. Shino? maybe 2 secs for Raikage =.='
I agree shino could not defeat him, the point in bringing up Shino is to show the technique he posses to remove an opponents chakra. Someone with similar speed and this ability might stand a chance or someone with the 3rd's speed working with shino might be effective if the right strategy is involved. Speed will not save you from genjutsu and there have already been shown to be ninja as fast as the 3rd Raikage in the manga including BM Naruto, the 4th Raikage, Minato, and probably Gai with gates unlocked. So yes his speed would be helpful, but it didn't saved him from being slapped in the face with a Rasen Shuriken.
 

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I just want to state that I think Raiton Armor is an Amazing ability before I start ripping into some of you Fanboys out there.

Now with that said if I see one more post about how the 3rd Raikage is possibly the strongest Kage because you can't hurt him I will claw my eyes out.

Lets analyze the 3rd Raikage's Raiton armor in full detail then we can break down the 3rd's weaknesses, because yes he has weaknesses just like every ninja in the manga. The raiton armor is a high defense technique that requires a constant stream of chakra to maintain. The armor becomes a barrier and increases the users speed as well. That being said it can be used as both offensive and defensive making it a very appealing high level ability.

Basically this means that the 3rd Raikage's main strengths are his physical attack, his speed, his physical defense and his stamina. His stamina is high because it takes an a ton of chakra to maintain raiton armor for a long period of time.

The keys to beating the 3rd Raikage are simple. If you can beat him in every category he has you have a chance at beating him. That being said we haven't seen anyone with a defensive ability that rivals being able to shut down a Wind Release Rasen Shuriken, so with that being said trying to out defense him would be very difficult.

Weakness number 1 would be genjutsu. Truly skilled ninja can cancel out a lot of genjutsu with enough intelligence to determine what they are being fooled with. So if Raikage can see through the genjutsu he has a chance to beat you still. A high level genjutsu user such as an Uchiha of Itachi,Madara, Sasake, or Tobi's level could easily dispatch the 3rd Raikage using genjutsu to their advantage. Amaterasu should it hit would not be stopped by the raiton armor either. So an Uchiha would make for a difficult fight for the 3rd Raikage.

Weakness number 2 would be any technique or ability that can drain chakra. Samehada would be very effective against the 3rd because just getting close to the 3rd would drain his armor and reduce both his physical defense and speed by consuming the chakra he draws on to maintain his armor. A character with the ability of shino and his bugs would be effective draining the raikages armor. Not saying shino could beat the 3rd raikage, but an ability similar to his or him working in combination with someone else could certainly make the 3rd's Raiton Armor a nonfactor.

Weakness number 3
Someone with the speed of the 4th Hokage Minato could just dodge his opponent long enough for the 3rd's chakra to run out. Essentially if you can avoid the 3rd's attacks for long enough eventually his chakra will fall below the limit for him to be able to maintain his armor effectively. In succession with this anyone with equal speed to him and more stamina could essentially out last his armor. For instance if the 4th Raikage could avoid the 3rd for a long enough period of time he could possibly outlast him on stamina alone. Naruto would probably be able to out last his stamina will maintaining enough speed to avoid him in this way.

Weakness number 4, and this is the last one I promise. A high level wind technique on the level of Wind Release Rasen Shuriken has been shown to cancel the Raikage's ability to maintain his armor. It is clear that when Naruto's shuriken hits the Raikage he stops glowing showing that his armor was canceled out. So in conclusion to shurikens in a row or a shuriken followed by any physical justsu could manage to damage the Raikage. That being said had Naruto tossed two WR Ransen Shuriken in a row at him Raikage would have be laying on the ground in pieces waiting for edo to put him back together like all the rest.

In conclusion the 3rd Raikage is truly a formidable opponent, but there are ways to harm even him. Non physical attacks are the most obvious, but even every technique has it weakness and every opponent can find the one person than can easily counter their techniques.
I think many people know this, but good that you pointed it out but there are some other thing's you should make clear.

1- not any Genjutsu user can kill him, he must posses a powerful one shot kill attack to take him down, otherwise Raikage will cancel the Genjutsu and then the person is a goner, namely Uchiha with MS who can use attack like Amaterasu can beat him with less trouble.

2- His Raiton armor increases his speed and power Definitely but his physical strength has nothing to do with that, he can not use his Nukite attacks without Raiton but he can knock the head out of any human just by punching him head on.

3- Minato or any other ninja of that lvl can not out last him in chakra and stamina, this guy fought 3 day and night non stop, and fought Gyuuki to the draw.

4- His armor alone does not protect his body from ninjutsu but the body itself is the toughest shield able to resist very high lvl attack, so even if his Raiton armor is turned off his body is still the hardest thing to damage.
 

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agree that genjutsu is a weakness for the 3rd raikage but that does not mean that he will easily lose.

it is possible to fight against a genjutsu user without falling for his genjutsu the five kages have proved this. They were outnumbered 5 to 1. Each kage was up against 5 pairs of sharingan eyes and yet none of them got caught in a genjutsu while they were fighting

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only when A got distracted and got caught and was forced to look into the eyes of a clone did he get hit by the genjutsu

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in a one on one fight 3rd raikage would not look the other way when his opponent is standing a few feet away from him.
his hell stab finger is the most powerful piercing attack and i believe it has a chance of penetrating the susanoo itself.
so an uchiha may win the fight in the end but it will be with high difficulty

as for minato i don't think he will win the match by outlasting him. Minato was hailed as a rare genius born in decades. On the other hand naruto who is known for being a thickhead noticed the scar on the raikages chest.

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In a fight raikage is bound to use his hell stab attack and minato would most likely use rasengan first and when he sees that rasengan is not damaging the raikage he can do the same thing that naruto's clone did. Minato's reflexes are on par with the raikage or superior

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Minato deduced the weakness in tobi's technique in just seconds with no prior info.
in fact any bright shinobi (itachi, shikamaru) can come to the conclusion that raikage's attack should be used against him after observing him for a while. Although i dont think itachi and shikamaru can do the same thing what naruto did cause they lack reflexes.

itachi may be able to do that cause he has sharingan but he lacks a powerful attack like rasengan to force raikages arm against his chest
 
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I think many people know this, but good that you pointed it out but there are some other thing's you should make clear.

1- not any Genjutsu user can kill him, he must posses a powerful one shot kill attack to take him down, otherwise Raikage will cancel the Genjutsu and then the person is a goner, namely Uchiha with MS who can use attack like Amaterasu can beat him with less trouble.

2- His Raiton armor increases his speed and power Definitely but his physical strength has nothing to do with that, he can not use his Nukite attacks without Raiton but he can knock the head out of any human just by punching him head on.

3- Minato or any other ninja of that lvl can not out last him in chakra and stamina, this guy fought 3 day and night non stop, and fought Gyuuki to the draw.

4- His armor alone does not protect his body from ninjutsu but the body itself is the toughest shield able to resist very high lvl attack, so even if his Raiton armor is turned off his body is still the hardest thing to damage.
All very good points. I did make clear not any genjutsu user could defeat him. I clearly say that if he sees through your genjutsu he will easily defeat you and I paired that with the fact that high level Uchiha would be the most obvious choice for this. I did not say his raiton armor increased his physical strength I clearly said that physical strength was one of his main attributes. I clearly stated that Raiton armor only increased his speed and defense. I did not say Minato had more chakra, but Minato's speed does not cost as much chakra as maintaining Raiton armor, this is clear in that Minato is able to spam the ability in battle, while high level chakra combined with element attacks seriously drain chakra, such as Raiton armor, chidori, and Rasen Shuriken. Lastly as I have already stated maintaining Raiton armor for 3 days and nights would be an impossible feat. He may have a huge chakra pool, but Naruto's chakra pool combined with the Kyubi's is larger and even he has a limit to what an element jutsu of a high level like raiton armor or rasen shuriken would do. Raikage prob did not use this ability on the 10,000 fodder ninja he fought. Simply put he wouldn't need to. His physical stamina is great as seen by his 3 day and night long battle, but his chakra pool if he was able to maintain raiton for 3 days and nights would beyond the chakra pool of anyone we have seen in the manga by more than 1,000 times as a rough estimate. Also his body is hard as steel and tough as nails. Yes simply put things like shuriken and regular punches would have no effect, but most ninjutsu with pysical damaging abilties would defenitely get through. If not, what would be the point in using all that chakra for the raiton armor.
 

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All very good points. I did make clear not any genjutsu user could defeat him. I clearly say that if he sees through your genjutsu he will easily defeat you and I paired that with the fact that high level Uchiha would be the most obvious choice for this. I did not say his raiton armor increased his physical strength I clearly said that physical strength was one of his main attributes. I clearly stated that Raiton armor only increased his speed and defense. I did not say Minato had more chakra, but Minato's speed does not cost as much chakra as maintaining Raiton armor, this is clear in that Minato is able to spam the ability in battle, while high level chakra combined with element attacks seriously drain chakra, such as Raiton armor, chidori, and Rasen Shuriken. Lastly as I have already stated maintaining Raiton armor for 3 days and nights would be an impossible feat. He may have a huge chakra pool, but Naruto's chakra pool combined with the Kyubi's is larger and even he has a limit to what an element jutsu of a high level like raiton armor or rasen shuriken would do. Raikage prob did not use this ability on the 10,000 fodder ninja he fought. Simply put he wouldn't need to. His physical stamina is great as seen by his 3 day and night long battle, but his chakra pool if he was able to maintain raiton for 3 days and nights would beyond the chakra pool of anyone we have seen in the manga by more than 1,000 times as a rough estimate. Also his body is hard as steel and tough as nails. Yes simply put things like shuriken and regular punches would have no effect, but most ninjutsu with pysical damaging abilties would defenitely get through. If not, what would be the point in using all that chakra for the raiton armor.
His body alone can sustain high powerd attack, he only uses Raiton armor for his attacks as shown in the manga his Body was known as the perfect shield,

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Fodder or not, fighting 10000 man with physical strength alone is a impossible feat for any human, Minato or any other ninja can not keep up with him when it comes to stamina, and Raikage does not need to keep his armor up if he is not attacking since his body can tank many high lvl attacks.
 
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