Seen what you mean but what of this scan?
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, I know the caster can put it out. He repels as said by the toads. Kisame words, Gai was repelling the water. If Gai keeps releasing it, it should eventually be gone since it's be shown that it can be greatly reduced.
No, again, that makes no sense. Blowing on flame only causes it to vanish because it was put out. Amaterasu can't be put out unless you are the caster. That is a fact. Repelling it will only repel it. It won't vanish so Gai accomplishes nothing here. Why are you trying to argue this? Especially when your only evidence is a scan of Nagato blowing Amaterasu away, not putting it out.
:lol Nagato repelling it didn't reduce the flame. That's impossible as
the flame cannot be put out. Nagato repelling it simply blew it away. Nothing more.
That's the only counter Gai has(the Gates). If it's possible, then it would work as a counter. Opening the Gates isn't taxing entirely for someone of that level. All he's doing is opening it which is pretty much nothing when he can turn it off. Amaterasu? We agreed that if Sasuke opts to using this, his level drops and Gai can fight with Pain. His pain tolerance is high up so he'll open it again and blow off Amaterasu if he gets hit. At least we know what Gai endures and Ay as well was battling despite being burned by Amaterasu let alone someone who can blow it off again. Besides Sasuke drops a version once he resorts to this so he's left opened for AT if he thinks of Amaterasu. Plus the speed of turning it off and on is probably nothing to Gai before Sasuke can prep his own Amaterasu for a counter that might get blown away.
It being taxing isn't the issue. Gai leaving himself wide open for Sasuke's attacks is the issue here. If he gets hit Sasuke simply keeps his focus on Gai's body thus blowing away Amaterasu doesn't help as he'll just be producing more right on top of it. Him having to drop Susanoo first is irrelevant because Gai will be dead or unable to fight once he gets hit.
@bold: Uh, no. When Gai opens the 7th Gate as we've seen he has to be still and then that sweat/energy is released like it was against Kisame and Madara. That's a second or two of vulnerability. It doesn't take a second or two to use Amaterasu.
But the whole blowing Amaterasu away strategy is terrible in the first place as it only relocates the flame, and you have him opening and reopening the gates multiple times to counter a flame that Sasuke can easily create.
Another thing I can think of is the fact that the Orb won't indefinitely produce the small Enton Magatamas at once. From our knowledge he can release 14 Magatamas at once. There were 16 Zetsus and he only hit 14 at one go. This is something Gai can easily counter with his Asakujaku (that can rival the amount of a thousand sharks) if Sasuke throws this upwards. Magatama is also Ninjutsu being used via the use of Susano'o (Most powerful Ninjutsu
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) so I don't see Sasuke even spamming that in V4 without dropping levels if he's uses Katon and even Amaterasu to try and stop Gai from stopping his Katons.
Asakujaku doesn't "counter" the Magatama. The Magatama are to create flame to heat up the atmosphere. Gai hitting them with more fire doesn't put them out so the heat will still rise to the atmosphere and Sasuke will still get closer and closer to prepping Kirin.
Yasaka Magatama and Enton Magatama aren't the same first of all. Second of all Itachi's strongest long range move=/=Sasuke's strongest long range move. Third of all, it being used via Susanoo isn't proof it on it's own is taxing on the reserves. So you barely have any proof for the claim that using it frequently will cause him to drop.
But it's not like Enton is necessary to begin with.
1. He opens a big gap in his Susano'o as he throws that in the air. That can create this
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. Sasuke throwing his sword and Madara spitting great annihilation don't create visible gaps. Look at both scans especially the Madara one and there is a thin line of fire before the large AOE is shown after it passes Susano'o. They are so damn think that we can't see the tiny gap. It can't be compared to this which requires the user releasing it at once from the mouth instead of continuous spitting like the other. This Jutsu was a necessary step for Kirin as stated by the DB3 and it takes a large amount of Chakra:
Ok.
More proof is how Sasuke increased his chakra level in order to use this technique despite in base previously
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and then went back to base after using this technique.
Yeah, in Base after he had just wasted a massive amount of his chakra on Orochimaru's Oral Rebirth Jutsu. This point doesn't help your argument solely because of that fact.
This is the only Katon worth mentioning because all Sasuke's other Katon techniques are short range techniques asides this one. Which works differently and there's no how it won't create a gap once Sasuke spits at once upwards.
Agreed.
2. His V4 might even drop because he even uses a large amount of chakra with that Katon. Feats of Sasuke being able to maintain this for a good amount are lacking let alone him using chakra taxing techniques. Those Katons alongside Magatama with Amaterasu to stop Gai won't help.
If you want to keep on claiming his V4 might drop I suggest you start bringing more evidence than him using moves that cost a lot of chakra. The only combination of technique that has ever caused Sasuke to drop an entire level when it comes to Susanoo is Amaterasu. An MS technique that consumes far more power than an ordinary Katon.
"Feats" of Sasuke not using V4 Susanoo not being in the Manga obviously doesn't help your argument since the only reason he failed to maintain had nothing to do with chakra.
Especially since "large" is an extremely vague, extremely broad term.
3. Amaterasu means he drops version and this won't hold Gai as he'll keep fighting and AT that version Sasuke drops too. Especially if he drops to base.
All the times where he would use Amaterasu are times where your plan leaves him unable to counter.
4. Gai needs to jump in mid air as he sees hand signs which enables him act fast against the Katon. He can even time it's coming out of Susano'o and even wait for the Gap to open while he capitalizes on that. Also, if Gai ends up facing Sasuke from an upwards position,
he evades Amaterasu in mid air. I don't see why mid air would be a problem for him to evade
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..Sasuke uses Amaterasu, I said what happens.
Gai doesn't have Sharingan. Seeing Sasuke's hand signs doesn't let him know what jutsu he's about to use so that argument definitely doesn't work. Especially since it takes one hand sign. No gap in Susanoo will be opened long enough for Gai to damage Sasuke on it so there's no point even trying to go down that route.
As for the rest..... That scan shows Sasuke jumping off B's shoulder to dodge. You can't maneuver in mid air at high enough speeds to perform dodges like that unless you can fly, and there is no way in hell Gai is going to be in mid air with no foothold and generate enough momentum and speed to dodge Amaterasu. Not a chance. He gets fried if he tries this.
Which is why I made reference to the fact that he had increased chakra levels via the curse seal.
The Curse Seal takes his chakra and replaces it with Orochimaru's chakra. In the long run it drains more power than it uses which is why Sasuke was wary of using it back in Part 1. Take that away and he's left with more chakra to utilize.
I'm pretty sure this was just a drawing inconsistency because I don't see why he'll even use a weaker version of V3 in the first place but ok. If we'll suggest he used his most powerful V3 against Fodder Alliance? I don't see why he'll be using a weaker one in the Midst of two Bijuus. The panel box in which it was drawn also understates it.
The strongest V3 he has is the full bodied one. That wasn't the full bodied one. That was even smaller than the one he pulled out against Naruto, Gaara, Onoki and the alliance. There's no evidence you can bring to the table to try and chalk it up to a drawing error.
And the midst of two Bijuu? Killer B was disabled and he wasn't even engaged with Naruto at the time because Naruto had the Wood Dragon to deal with. Not to mention I can use this logic and say "why didn't he use a full bodied Susanoo in the midst of two Bijuu and Gai when he used a full bodied Susanoo in the early stages of his fight with the Gokage"? Not sound.
He tried to stab Naruto when Gai attacked him with AT. He said that to Naruto but was battling all 3 of them so I don't really see why he'll change that so quick when Naruto was still around. Hachibi was completely down and Gai was at his limit yet Madara left and came back to stab them despite having Naruto held down with his wood dragon. He'll be using a stronger form of V3 against fodder alliance but not these fellows? PS doesn't matter given his words in that scan. Anyways, I don't think this matters in our argument anymore.
Yeah, a clone of Naruto not utilizing his Bijuu Mode. No point in me going over this when the panels put the Susanoo Madara used against B and Naruto weaker and smaller than what he used in the past. At the best case you come to the conclusion that they are equal, but that doesn't change the fact that it's the weakest V3 Susanoo shown in the Manga. You saying it's a drawing inconsistency is based on nothing, and the rest of your argument here doesn't change what was drawn.
