[VS] 3rd Raikage VS DSM Kabuto

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  • Sandaime Raikage

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • DSM Kabuto

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Nattana

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Kabuto wins lol.

He starts with Mateki: Mugen Onsa and finishes him with Doton Kekkai: Dorō Dōmu by simply draining him off chakra until he has 0 and dies. In the meantime, he's being mentally broken by genjutsu.
Just to be more careful, Kabuto binds 3rd with Jagei Jubaku.
Moreover, Kabuto can simply use his chakra scalpels to damage his insides. They don't need skin to be cut through first, he can slice his organs without any problems.
 

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Kabuto wins lol.

He starts with Mateki: Mugen Onsa and finishes him with Doton Kekkai: Dorō Dōmu by simply draining him off chakra until he has 0 and dies. In the meantime, he's being mentally broken by genjutsu.
Just to be more careful, Kabuto binds 3rd with Jagei Jubaku.
Moreover, Kabuto can simply use his chakra scalpels to damage his insides. They don't need skin to be cut through first, he can slice his organs without any problems.

Don't forget to add Sage Webs on that list, for hold him. He Raikage had to put his attack to created enough power to rip through Rubber jutsu. Sage webs would work better in this situation becuase it will be tougher and leaves him vulnerable, if he attempts to try and rip it.
 

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Okay well this depends on the location, you said right?

Well if that's the case then kabuto wins, he has a wide open area so he will start the fight by summoning manda II. After which he will find hiding spots to enter DSM while raikage deals with it (Do not underestimate manda II, he will stall long enough for kabuto to enter SM).

After kabuto enters DSM its basically over, raikage can't blitz kabuto due to sage enhanced sensing & reflexes, & sound genjutsu will be the gamechanger.
 

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Okay well this depends on the location, you said right?

Well if that's the case then kabuto wins, he has a wide open area so he will start the fight by summoning manda II. After which he will find hiding spots to enter DSM while raikage deals with it (Do not underestimate manda II, he will stall long enough for kabuto to enter SM).

After kabuto enters DSM its basically over, raikage can't blitz kabuto due to sage enhanced sensing & reflexes, & sound genjutsu will be the gamechanger.

I keep trying to join that group :l they won't let me..
 

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People are vastly underestimating 3rd Raikage and Over estimating Kabuto.

They arguments here are just absurb. Kabuto has DSM sensing allowing him to react quickly, but that doesn't mean he's now super fast. He's still up against a high speed kage who could also effortlessly dodge his attacks.

Then we have people talking about Soound 5 abilities 'enhanced by SM', which is a blatant lie. The sound 5 already had their abilities enhanced by a pseudo SM when they used it -- Cursed seal version 2 -- and they were still beaten by a bunch of genins. For that matter, it's not even Kabuto that uses their abilities. Kabuto uses sakon's technique to deconstruct and reconstruct his molecules so that he can use the sound 5 DNA within him to protrude them from his stomach and have them use their jutsu. From the scan's we've seen, Kabuto's abilities are vassstttllyyyyy inferior to even that of the Sound 5.

base Kidomaru[ ][ ]; Kabuto Kidomaru[ ][ ] - identical. Infact, Sasuke ripped through it with enton sword. 3rd raikage's raiton powered slashes would rip through these webs with ease

; - Inferior to the umpteenth power.
; - inferior. It doesn't even matter that they had a sharingan because they'd still see the jutsu. Sharingan only makes them notice they're in a genjutsu so that they can break it but they'd still experience it.

And so forth. Clearly these abilities aren't being enhanced by kabuto's SM. For that matter, sound gen is far less useful in such a wide area with little acoustics and walls to bounce sound. Kabuto would have to be in raikage's face to use this jutsu. Kabuto's going to use sakon, then kimimaro, then tayuya while standing 10 feet from 3rd raikage? lol, no. He'd get destroyed. He isn'tdodging forever without that roof to jump onto.

Then, there are the people who talk about white Rage. White rage, come on. What is this supposed to do? Itachi of all people was able to use his susano'o through it and it doesn't matter one bit that he was an edo. He still felt pain like a normal person and gritted his teeth like a normal person. If the vibrations didn't affect him, kabuto wouldn't have used that jutsu. White rage isn't stopping 3rd raikage, nor is it even going to release his raiton armor boosting his defences. Kabuto literally has 0 attacks to affect him. Even Base Raikage tanked a Combination Cast Net jutsu. He tank a high level cutting jutsu that was derived from the element he was weak to. Kabuto has nothing on that scale.

Outlasting raikage? Ha! that's highly unlikely. Kabuto still has to use chakra to do all what he does such as jutsu, oral rebirth, etc. Sage Mode doesn't compensate for 0 chakra reserves. Raikage lasted 2 damn days. Kabuto has no conceivable feat to suggest he can fight for even 1 day, let alone 2. In a battle of attrition he gets vastly out gunned.

Hydrification? Clearly useless. If he gets restrained or raikage shunshins to him then uses black lightning while he's dodging, kabuto is taking all that damage and has to heal it off. It doesn't matter whether or not raikage can kill him through his oral rebirth and healing because all of that is heavy on chakra. Kabuto would drain his chakra quickly. SM naruto could only shoot off 2 rasenshuriken before he was tanked showing us that there is a chakra limit on sage mode. Kabuto will exceed that quickly.

Chakra scalpels? Lol? That only works on a restrained opponent. Kabuto won't even have the time to stay still to metamorphasize sakon, kimimaro and tayuya. White rage isn't restraining the guy with iron blood and skin for long either, that's if it would in the first place. All raikage would have to worry about is the Bright light and sound, but, most importantly he is very fast as a kage. Anyone seeing such an attack coming towards them would more than obviously try to evade it. Infact, itachi thought it was a ninjutsu and tried to jump infront of sasuke. The raikage has no one to protect, therefore all he needs to do is run away.





People take kabuto's cave advantage lightly. Kabuto only did so well because of that cave and kishi gave it to him to put more into the fight. Sound gen, white rage, evasion(jumping on roof and hiding behind stalagmites) are all greatly reduced outside. The little he gained in manda 2, he lost elsewhere. I don't see how kabuto is ever winning this battle.
 

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DSM Kabuto wins comfortably

- The raikage isn't touching him, Kabuto reacted to a susano arrow

- Since kabuto can use Kimimaro's bones, he has a pretty good offensive atack that would most likely harm the 3rd raikage even with his lightining armour.

- Sound genjutsu GG
 

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Good fight I honestly don't see Kabuto killing him the 3rd is to durable for any of Kabuto's techs including swallowing lol(wtf is that gonna do?)3rd wins because of his lightning spear would be able to kill Kabuto
 

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DSM Kabuto wins comfortably

- The raikage isn't touching him, Kabuto reacted to a susano arrow

- Since kabuto can use Kimimaro's bones, he has a pretty good offensive atack that would most likely harm the 3rd raikage even with his lightining armour.

- Sound genjutsu GG

Yea... no... That's not how kimi's bones work. They're very hard and can tank most things without breaking. They're not enhanced in anyway to pierce heavy defences. He's not getting through sand defence with kimi's bones lol.... For that matter, I doubt he can use kimi's bones to the same degree as kimi.
 

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People are vastly underestimating 3rd Raikage and Over estimating Kabuto.

After reading your points, you were talking down about Kabuto's ability and yet you dont want people to think that we over estimating him, while you underrated them? (PS dont get upset with me laughing on your points I dont mean it in a disrespectful way but as an unfair conclusion your making against Kabuto, that your not seeing.

They arguments here are just absurb. Kabuto has DSM sensing allowing him to react quickly, but that doesn't mean he's now super fast. He's still up against a high speed kage who could also effortlessly dodge his attacks.

Who cares if he is super fast the whole shinobi alliance was able to put effort in countering him, so effortlessly my ass. All Kabuto needs is his SM senses to react to his attacks while outsmarting the 3rd.

Then we have people talking about Soound 5 abilities 'enhanced by SM', which is a blatant lie. The sound 5 already had their abilities enhanced by a pseudo SM when they used it -- Cursed seal version 2 -- and they were still beaten by a bunch of genins. For that matter, it's not even Kabuto that uses their abilities. Kabuto uses sakon's technique to deconstruct and reconstruct his molecules so that he can use the sound 5 DNA within him to protrude them from his stomach and have them use their jutsu. From the scan's we've seen, Kabuto's abilities are vassstttllyyyyy inferior to even that of the Sound 5.

Lmao. Except that it is manga fact that they are . So what if they were enhanced by pseudo they do not make them any better then Kabuto's. It is still far weaker then a complete Sage (lol adding version 2 in your argument still doesn't cut it). Then you underrate that characters losing by genins due to bad-match up and them getting help? So therefore you conclude that the Sound 5 moves are a non-factor because of it? Come on man.

base Kidomaru[ ][ ]; Kabuto Kidomaru[ ][ ] - identical. Infact, Sasuke ripped through it with enton sword. 3rd raikage's raiton powered slashes would rip through these webs with ease

Your scans don't work but I will take your word for it. You fail to realize that to conclude how strong the attack is. As long as the Sage user adds their boost into that . The webs were handling Sasuke's fire before he shaped his fire into a cutting ability. Raikage is not pulling that with ease for the fact that this material is sticky and strong. Lets compare the elastomer of Kabuto and Dodai posses. We know that Dodai's rubber was able to slow down the raikage temporally, It withstood the Raikage's attack due to its elastic priorities. Even a from the rubber was able to bounce forward. That says alot when encounter Sage Webs for the first time. 3rd will not have time to properly cut it when Kabuto sprung it around or on him.

; - Inferior to the umpteenth power.
; - inferior. It doesn't even matter that they had a sharingan because they'd still see the jutsu. Sharingan only makes them notice they're in a genjutsu so that they can break it but they'd still experience it.

They use Yin release on each other to suuport each other. They could not break out alone. 3rd has no method of breaking out.

And so forth. Clearly these abilities aren't being enhanced by kabuto's SM. For that matter, sound gen is far less useful in such a wide area with little acoustics and walls to bounce sound. Kabuto would have to be in raikage's face to use this jutsu. Kabuto's going to use sakon, then kimimaro, then tayuya while standing 10 feet from 3rd raikage? lol, no. He'd get destroyed. He isn'tdodging forever without that roof to jump onto.

Except you were wrong about your comparison. Kabuto does not need to stand at all the do these lol. Then you think that Kabuto switching around techs is slow. When Sasukei's testament proves that ("He Even...Behind us"). This was after they were avoiding Dance fern. Sasuke's testament proves that switching abilities back n forth is not slow at all BUT CAN MULTI-TASK!

Then, there are the people who talk about white Rage. White rage, come on. What is this supposed to do? Itachi of all people was able to use his susano'o through it and it doesn't matter one bit that he was an edo. He still felt pain like a normal person and gritted his teeth like a normal person. If the vibrations didn't affect him, kabuto wouldn't have used that jutsu. White rage isn't stopping 3rd raikage, nor is it even going to release his raiton armor boosting his defences. Kabuto literally has 0 attacks to affect him. Even Base Raikage tanked a Combination Cast Net jutsu. He tank a high level cutting jutsu that was derived from the element he was weak to. Kabuto has nothing on that scale.

Then completely neglect Sasuke situation? Edo clearly made a difference because he DOES NOT FEEL PAIN. He can still be blinded as an edo and he can still hear sound as an edo. What his body can't do is feel any tissue bones rubbing against each other. Because of Itachi being an a Kinjutsu state/body his ability to get out of were different counter to when Sasuke tried. White Rage will be stopping the 3rd as he will not be in such a state to concentrate his lightning armor properly. Kabuto can either do the same thing Naruto did or use his other techs to take over his body.

Outlasting raikage? Ha! that's highly unlikely. Kabuto still has to use chakra to do all what he does such as jutsu, oral rebirth, etc. Sage Mode doesn't compensate for 0 chakra reserves. Raikage lasted 2 damn days. Kabuto has no conceivable feat to suggest he can fight for even 1 day, let alone 2. In a battle of attrition he gets vastly out gunned.

Except that Kabuto continuously gathers natural energy allowing him to become in a self charger. Then again this argument is moot as Kabuto doesn't need to take this long to beat him.

Hydrification? Clearly useless. If he gets restrained or raikage shunshins to him then uses black lightning while he's dodging, kabuto is taking all that damage and has to heal it off. It doesn't matter whether or not raikage can kill him through his oral rebirth and healing because all of that is heavy on chakra. Kabuto would drain his chakra quickly. SM naruto could only shoot off 2 rasenshuriken before he was tanked showing us that there is a chakra limit on sage mode. Kabuto will exceed that quickly.

Nope he has shown to it without any sign of .

Chakra scalpels? Lol? That only works on a restrained opponent. Kabuto won't even have the time to stay still to metamorphasize sakon, kimimaro and tayuya. White rage isn't restraining the guy with iron blood and skin for long either, that's if it would in the first place. All raikage would have to worry about is the Bright light and sound, but, most importantly he is very fast as a kage. Anyone seeing such an attack coming towards them would more than obviously try to evade it. Infact, itachi thought it was a ninjutsu and tried to jump infront of sasuke. The raikage has no one to protect, therefore all he needs to do is run away.

Proved that wrong already. Chakra scalpel could be use to knock Raikage's hand into himself.

People take kabuto's cave advantage lightly. Kabuto only did so well because of that cave and kishi gave it to him to put more into the fight. Sound gen, white rage, evasion(jumping on roof and hiding behind stalagmites) are all greatly reduced outside. The little he gained in manda 2, he lost elsewhere. I don't see how kabuto is ever winning this battle.

Manda 2 is still his arsenal regardless of it not being presented currently.

Good fight I honestly don't see Kabuto killing him the 3rd is to durable for any of Kabuto's techs including swallowing lol(wtf is that gonna do?)3rd wins because of his lightning spear would be able to kill Kabuto

Lol its manga knowledge intel. Sage Naruto use senses and regular Rasengan as a medium to push his arm, allowing the Raikage to kill himself. Kabuto simply does the same thing with, a different medium.
 
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Is that for real?

Kabuto low difficulty.

Not to mention he was the one revived Sandaime Raikage lol.
 
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