3rd Raikage Sama>Itachi. How? heres how.

[blazekev90]

That was my point sasuke could not keep up after raikage switched to V2 plus body flicker, what you showed in only v1, the 3rd was charging at them and they could see him, if that was raikage's v2 + body flicker they would not be able to see him let alone react. Your post supports the fact that the 4th raikage is faster.

yes, this is a known fact the that 4th had slightly greater speed, while the 3rd had slightly better defense. That''s something i never went against

 

[iMicLykTyson]

yes, this is a known fact the that 4th had slightly greater speed, while the 3rd had slightly better defense. That''s something i never went against

lol this opens many possibilities(for itach that is) like raikage moving behind itachi and using hell stab would be considered false.

 

[blazekev90]

lol this opens many possibilities, like raikage moving behind itachi and using hell stab .

before that, lets not assume that amaterasu instant or that 3rd is slow U_U

amaterasu is all about activating and following the users movements, thus someone with superior speed could escape.

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A is the fastest shinobi alive and in top speed is compared to Minato teleportion or whatever. This is no small feat, so the 3rd only being slightly slower than him doesnt mean much if he reacts according. As the link you provided displayed, his reflexs are too superior. 3rd speed>>>Sasuke to avoid completely or longer than Sasuke did

 

[Ghostofthewind]

I disagree. Put Tsukuyomi, Susanoo, and Amatersu aside for a bit, Itachi is still ridiculously OP. He can make clones while throwing kuni, he does it so fast I don't remember Itachi using seals. The 3 Riakage is fast but Itachi is a master of body flicker himself. Zetsu said that Itachi normally would have easily dodged all of Sasuke's attacks and Itachi's partner was Shisui of the body flicker.

Looking back at Itachi's fights against Kakashi, Kakashi against 1/13 of Itachi, and Sasuke Itachi's speed is unreal.

Tsukuyomi and Itachi's Susanoo are OP+OP. The Raikage can dodge Amatersu but if he's looking at Itachi's feet he can't see Amatersu coming. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. That's why Gai wouldn't beat Itachi either.

BTW: Has anyone else noticed Gai and Rock Lee walking on water? That's a plothole. Neither one has chakra to be able to do that. lol

 

[iMicLykTyson]

before that, lets not assume that amaterasu instant or that 3rd is slow U_U

amaterasu is all about activating and following the users movements, thus someone with superior speed could escape.

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A is the fastest shinobi alive and in top speed is compared to Minato teleportion or whatever. This is no small feat, so the 3rd only being slightly slower than him doesnt mean much if he reacts according. As the link you provided displayed, his reflexs are too superior. 3rd speed>>>Sasuke to avoid completely or longer than Sasuke did

Just so u know the picture proves nothing, itachi didn't have the intent to kill
Even tobi with a s/t jutsu barely dodge it. He is faster than the 3rd
The 4th dodged Amaterasu using his speed / reflexes(v2 and body flicker a thread was made about it in the past) u said it ur self 4th raikage is faster any speed feat less than that of the 4th raikage's v2 + body flicker can't dodge Amaterasu.
Ps sasuke began moving b4 it was used

 

[blazekev90]

Just so u know the picture proves nothing, itachi didn't have the intent to kill
Even tobi with a s/t jutsu barely dodge it. He is faster than the 3rd
The 4th dodged Amaterasu using his speed / reflexes(v2 and body flicker a thread was made about it in the past) u said it ur self 4th raikage is faster any speed feat less than that of the 4th raikage's v2 + body flicker can't dodge Amaterasu.

please dont try that intent to kill crap U_U
It's about prep and avoiding it, dodging it is something else.

Dodging is standing still and ducking everthing thrown at you, escaping an attack is totally different, which is what Sasuke was doing in those links not dodging

 

[Mizukage Mei]

Well it would be a close match.

 

[iMicLykTyson]

please dont try that intent to kill crap U_U
It's about prep and avoiding it, dodging it is something else.

Dodging is standing still and ducking everthing thrown at you, escaping an attack is totally different, which is what Sasuke was doing in those links not dodging

You can't ignore he fact that he didn't want to kill sasuke
Read my former post I used tobi as an example he knew Amaterasu was about to occurs but he barely dodged it. Tobi's speed> 3rd raikage's speed. I repeat with intent to kill, any one with speed feats lower than that of v2 + body flicker will not dodge Amaterasu.

 

[Sukalotta Kok]

Itachi wiped out the 2nd strongest clan. 3rd Raikage would be caught in a genjutsu--Tsyukuomi, he'd have to fight with eyes closed, with the risk of Amatersu hitting. Yata's mirror would do more than penetrate his armor skin it would seal him. Susanoo would protect Itachi
Amatersu would burn till the target is no more, Izanami would be great against Raikage, The only way out is to accept their fate. He's not accepting anything. He wouldnt accept death from 10,000 men and the HAchibi as for Tobirama accepted his death to a squad. Izanami at its fullest.

 

[blazekev90]

You can't ignore he fact that he didn't want to kill sasuke
Read my former post I used tobi as an example he knew Amaterasu was about to occurs but he barely dodged it. Tobi's speed> 3rd raikage's speed. I repeat with intent to kill, any one with speed feats lower than that of v2 + body flicker will not dodge Amaterasu.

Tobi didnt need to dodge anything, he had means in which to cancel Amaterasu

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BTW S/T isnt speed, we havent seen any speed from Tobi. This intent to kill argument is ridiculous. Nonetheless, Sasuke was able to predict that it about to be used and went running, but Itachi's eyes caught up to him. This could be demonstrated by anyone, but the only different is their ability to successfully outrun his eyesight.

Amaterasu gets activated and follows the users eyesight, someone seeing the prep could begin try on escape their eyeisght. However, the user could simply follow their moments as Amaterasu TRAVELS their direction, as shown against Sasuke until it connects or the user de-activates it.

 

[lol99]

i said he would use a clone xd

i know you said that but i dont see how an itachi clone would be able to pull off what naruto's clone did

 

[iMicLykTyson]

Tobi didnt need to dodge anything, he had means in which to cancel Amaterasu

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BTW S/T isnt speed, we havent seen any speed from Tobi. This intent to kill argument is ridiculous. Nonetheless, Sasuke was able to predict that it about to be used and went running, but Itachi's eyes caught up to him. This could be demonstrated by anyone, but the only different is their ability to successfully outrun his eyesight.

Amaterasu gets activated and follows the users eyesight, someone seeing the prep could begin try on escape their eyeisght. However, the user could simply follow their moments as Amaterasu TRAVELS their direction, as shown against Sasuke until it connects or the user de-activates it.

S/t isn't speed agreed but it can be used for speed for example minato. Plz tell my why minato was named the fastest shinobi?
Minato used s/t jutsu for speed against tobi.
Again tobi knew Amaterasu was about to occur but barely dodged it. It is one thing to anticipate but do u have the speed to back it up. 3rd does not have the speed to back it up.
Itachi was not planning to kill sasuke simple as that.

 

[iMicLykTyson]

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i know you said that but i dont see how an itachi clone would be able to pull off what naruto's clone did

Why won't the clone be able to pull off what naruto did?

 

[lol99]

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Why won't the clone be able to pull off what naruto did?

that clone was in sage mode
what naruto says is the key to how he dodged that attack

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[iMicLykTyson]

that clone was in sage mode
what naruto says is the key to how he dodged that attack

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Itachi has the sharingan to keep up with the movements sasuke proved this.

 

[blazekev90]

S/t isn't speed agreed but it can be used for speed for example minato. Plz tell my why minato was named the fastest shinobi?
Minato used s/t jutsu for speed against tobi.
Again tobi knew Amaterasu was about to occur but barely dodged it. It is one thing to anticipate but do u have the speed to back it up. 3rd does not have the speed to back it up.
Itachi was not planning to kill sasuke simple as that.

he didnt need to dodge it tho, he didnt barely do anything. Minato's base speed is fast AF, his S/T in a sense supports that theory of his speed. There is nothing more to explain if you cant get the difference between dodging an attack vs. prepping and escaping it.

 

[lol99]

Itachi has the sharingan to keep up with the movements sasuke proved this.

i dont agree especially dodging that attack is difficult and that too at the last second.
anyway thats your opinion

 

[iMicLykTyson]

he didnt need to dodge it tho, he didnt barely do anything. Minato's base speed is fast AF, his S/T in a sense supports that theory of his speed. There is nothing more to explain if you cant get the difference between dodging an attack vs. prepping and escaping it.

I already used tobi as an example, i also used the 4th.
What do u need to escape it (Amaterasu) ? speed right? The 4th barely dodged Amaterasu the 3rd would be caught ablaze. His speed does not meet the requirements.

 

[iMicLykTyson]

i dont agree especially dodging that attack is difficult and that too at the last second.
anyway thats your opinion

Sasuke showed us that the sharingan enables u to predict his movements and in terms of speed sasuke is not faster than itachi.

 

[blazekev90]

I already used tobi as an example, i also used the 4th.
What do u need to escape it (Amaterasu) ? speed right? The 4th barely dodged Amaterasu the 3rd would be caught ablaze. His speed does not meet the requirements.

Tobi was a fail, he didn't do anything I don't even know why mentioned that. Lol
A dodged it, as it was already coming at him and basicially at his face. Sasuke escaped it, he noticed he was about to use it and tried to out run it but he wasn't fast enough.

If you aren't getting difference instances, we'll have to agree to disagree on this den man lol