3rd raikage>naruto

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Sunagura

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there are only shinobi that could defeat him without the stab himself thing. only a feaw
 

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assuming naruto gets no intel on the scar or amber pot he loses hard
Thats too bad since Bijudama is stronger than his own attack
stronger is subjective. bijuudama causes outward area of effect damage. hell nukite causes piercing damage. kind of like comparing TNT to armour piercing rounds
 

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naruto alredy went macdaddy on him
 

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BM Bijuudama > Hachibi Bijuudama.

No proof that he can tank it.

It's also hype, we were never shown he tanked it.
 

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It's a silly thread. Raikage gets a special tool he doesn't normally possess (it's not part of his usual equipment, so you wouldn't grant it to him in a fight), and Naruto gets no knowledge of it. By the same token, Shizune could beat the Raikage, if she poisoned his food with careful planning... but in a fight? Naruto wins, just like Raikage would own Shizune.

Plus, Naruto always has so many clones with him (due to his techs), it's better than even money one of them answers and is sucked in, after which Naruto is forewarned and fine. A bloodlusted Naruto doesn't stop for chit chat btw... he just fights.
 

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Raikage gets a special tool he doesn't normally possess (it's not part of his usual equipment, so you wouldn't grant it to him in a fight),
raikage never fought hachibi without it except for one time where he cut off its tails

By the same token, Shizune could beat the Raikage, if she poisoned his food with careful planning...
no not really since thats not a fight. but if he breathed in her poison fog yes she would win

Plus, Naruto always has so many clones with him (due to his techs), it's better than even money one of them answers and is sucked in
the pot is perfect, created by the rikudo. no way is a clone fooling it.
 

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raikage never fought hachibi without it except for one time where he cut off its tails
We have a sample size of two. One fight he had it (or at least, the team of shinobi he fought with had it, and he used it), the other he did not. His edo form can't summon it either, so I see no reason to grant that it is part of his usual equipment. He had it once. That's all we know.

the pot is perfect, created by the rikudo. no way is a clone fooling it.

Up to your usual tricks of inventing powers as needed, to try and push your argument. Any proof of that? Oh, of course you don't. If the pot is perfect, Ino wouldn't have been able to fool it either, using that logic. It gets the feats it proves.
 

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Any proof of that?
the manga

If the pot is perfect, Ino wouldn't have been able to fool it either
she didnt. she forced kinkaku to say something using mind control. clones have no souls and the thing seals souls.
 

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the manga
The manga says the pot is perfect and cannot be fooled by clones? Where?

she didnt. she forced kinkaku to say something using mind control. clones have no souls and the thing seals souls.

By your logic, if the pot is perfect, it should have known it wasn't really Kinkaku answering, it was Ino. Of course, that's ridiculous logic only a fool would use.
 
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