3rd and 4th kazekages vs tsunade and mei

[Owarij]

The entire mei crystallizes sand point imo is moot...to "crystallize" sand instantly you would need to have a initial temperature of lightning which is around 29,000 °C

Lava which is typically 1160 °C will not be doing the same thing lightning does... also remember the fact that the kazekages can lift their sand in the air and fight in an aerial state.. while

1) tsunade is soely a melee range taijutsu fighter
2) mei can only spit lava so far
3) katsuyu can only spit acid so far

without a doubt anywhere else, the kazekages take this with ease

 

[Negative Knight]

Yes, in a desert.

This.

Even in a neutral terrain (Sauske vs Deidara), i see the 4th Kazekage being capable of this.

I'm aware of all these points, but I still cannot imagine him just magically drawing gold from the ground, especially not in the given location. Unlike any kind of sand, Suiton is a Chakra nature; it's Chakra that undergoes an elemental transformation. As far as I remember, Gaara creates new sand by compressing minerals underground. If that same princible applies to Sandaime and Yondaime, they can only fight efficiently in certain areas, a stipulation which is not given in this specific scenario. The 'few' iron sand Kazekage can releae from his mouth should be easily covered by Mei's Yoton.

Too much emphasis is being put on Yoton overpowering the two sand users, i feel she wouldn't be able to completely prevent the Fourth Kazekage's own usage of sand, let alone with the assistance of the 3rd Kazekage.

Even in a worst case scenario, the 3rd Kazekage seemed to have such an efficent supply of magnetite (Iron Sand), that Sasori was able to fill his puppet to the brim and create enough for excess use as well as Iron Sand World Order, a technique of massive proportions.

 

[genii96]

I'm aware of all these points, but I still cannot imagine him just magically drawing gold from the ground, especially not in the given location. Unlike any kind of sand, Suiton is a Chakra nature; it's Chakra that undergoes an elemental transformation. As far as I remember, Gaara creates new sand by compressing minerals underground. If that same princible applies to Sandaime and Yondaime, they can only fight efficiently in certain areas, a stipulation which is not given in this specific scenario. The 'few' iron sand Kazekage can releae from his mouth should be easily covered by Mei's Yoton.

the kazekages arent like gaara,they dont have his weakness of environment,remeber they have jiton,not just gold dust manipulation or iron sand,and there are quote a few magnetic minerals and materials underground.

They dont need any time to summon it,they simply switch on their magnetism and attract the magnetic minerals and objects towards them.

IIRC,amegukere has many metal pipes and constructs which are metallic,the kazekages can easily use that.

Also 4th kazekage drew the gold from underneath the earth's surface,thats a far distance underground,also he has shown to manipulate diamagnetic objects too. Fighting in a lake or not wont really matter,he gets his gols from below the earth,and he,like the previous kazekage can most likely spit out magnetic objects from their mouths.

 

[FloriGlori]

Too much emphasis is being put on Yoton overpowering the two sand users, i feel she wouldn't be able to completely prevent the Fourth Kazekage's own usage of sand, let alone with the assistance of the 3rd Kazekage.

Even in a worst case scenario, the 3rd Kazekage seemed to have such an efficent supply of magnetite (Iron Sand), that Sasori was able to fill his puppet to the brim and create enough for excess use as well as Iron Sand World Order, a technique of massive proportions.

Clearly not. If nothing else, Mei is extremely efficient when it comes to spamming Ninjutsu. Too little emphasis is put on Tsunade's medical prowess, perfecly suited to increase Yoton's magnitude, and not just by a small margin. I'd bring up further points, such as Mei's Suiton, Kirigakure no Jutsu or Katsuyu, but as long as there are no clarifications on the extent to which the Kazekage can spam their metallic sands, I have no intention of deepening the discussion. At least in this specific scenario given by the topic's creator, it seems like they cannot, which is why I'm giving victory to Mei and Tsunade, here.

 

[Horus]

tsunade and Mei