[VS] 3 men team Vs Edo Madara

[Tantalus Thief]

Kishimoto gave us a direct comparison between Full Kurama and rest of Biju's, when they were children and shown to be equal in size. There's nothing to discuss here.

Yeah and Kurama obviously got bigger when he matured so there's no point in bringing that up. Kishi specifically said he got smaller and showed a clear indication of shrinking to support that. Kishimoto has a habit of messing up sizes but that isn't the case here when he directly says Kurama got smaller.

 

[NarutoX28]

Kurama will be bigger than the Biju's when they were children, if in his adulthood was twice their size, because according to you, he has acromegaly, so your point is moot, and your scans are invalidated by others. The movie and Gaiden already showed us Full Kurama is the same size as 50%, so there is nothing to talk in here. Your outdated comparisons are all contradicted by new content.

No it didn't.

You're trying to apply an exact science to the growth of Kurama when Kishimoto's manga defies physics. I never understood why people try to over-complicate things when Occam's Razor is sometimes the best route to go.

 

[Edogawa]

Yeah and Kurama obviously got bigger when he matured so there's no point in bringing that up. Kishi specifically said he got smaller and showed a clear indication of shrinking to support that. Kishimoto has a habit of messing up sizes but that isn't the case here when he directly says Kurama got smaller.

So why wasn't Kurama bigger at childhood?

No it didn't.

You're trying to apply an exact science to the growth of Kurama when Kishimoto's manga defies physics. I never understood why people try to over-complicate things when Occam's Razor is sometimes the best route to go.

It did. Page 2.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

So why wasn't Kurama bigger at childhood?



It did. Page 2.

Again so what? That was a young Kura that had not fully grown yet. There's proabably cases of people who were the same height when they were younger but then one became much bigger/taller than the other. It's not hard to believe Kurama simply got bigger than the rest.

 

[Edogawa]

Again so what? That was a young Kura that had not fully grown yet. There's proabably cases of people who were the same height when they were younger but then one became much bigger/taller than the other. It's not hard to believe Kurama simply got bigger than the rest.

That is contradictory to genetic growth; if Kurama, at his adult years, was twice the size than his brethren, then he would also be twice their size at childhood, due to excess growth. Kurama wouldn't all of the sudden grow excessively, when the image literally shows him equal to his brethren.

I'll repeat again. If Chakra amount was the reason to determine Kurama's size, then Shukau would be the smallest because he has the least amount of Chakra, which was not the case.

Your argument are all outdated. The new content, Movie and Gaiden, invalidates this whole Kurama size as it shows 100% Kurama is equal to 50% Kurama. You shouldn't base your argumentation on outdated and contradicted information.

Going back to the original argument: 100% Kurama's TBB blustered a single mountain, something a TBB from any Biju also did. PS wouldn't tank something of this

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. It gets blown to pieces.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

That is contradictory to genetic growth; if Kurama, at his adult years, was twice the size than his brethren, then he would also be twice their size at childhood, due to excess growth. Kurama wouldn't all of the sudden grow excessively, when the image literally shows him equal to his brethren.

I'll repeat again. If Chakra amount was the reason to determine Kurama's size, then Shukau would be the smallest because he has the least amount of Chakra, which was not the case.

Your argument are all outdated. The new content, Movie and Gaiden, invalidates this whole Kurama size as it shows 100% Kurama is equal to 50% Kurama. You shouldn't base your argumentation on outdated and contradicted information.

Going back to the original argument: 100% Kurama's TBB blustered a single mountain, something a TBB from any Biju also did. PS wouldn't tank something of this

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. It gets blown to pieces.

Susanoo already survived a BD from Kurama. Madara can't stabilize a PS moments after the explosion based on how long it took for him to make his PS against the gokage. There is no proof it actually did destroy Susanoo. Kishi made it clear when Susanoo was destroyed when SS did it

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

A lot of retarded people here didn't read team vs edo. Meaning that the only way to win is for you you immobilze or seal the person and of course the only person capable of doing that is Nagato by human path, celestial terra or rods, Itachi by Totsukya, and Madara by rods making minato pointless here unless they're trying to evade incoming attacks for no reason.
Team Nagato-Itachi wins this they're not only naturally stronger as a duo more than Madara has ever shown plus they have better sealing.

 

[Sagebee]

I swear the fap is strong in this thread madara is strong, but not strong enough to beat the Edo versions of the strongest characters in the series at once.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lmao yet to see a legitimate reason for the team beating Madara here. Just the usual nonsense you'd expect from most people who post in this section.

 

[Edogawa]

Susanoo already survived a BD from Kurama. Madara can't stabilize a PS moments after the explosion based on how long it took for him to make his PS against the gokage. There is no proof it actually did destroy Susanoo. Kishi made it clear when Susanoo was destroyed when SS did it

Dude, I showed you a scan of a TBB with much higher magnitude than the much lower magnitude TBB PS tanked, and you reply to me with the same thing.

 

[Waltz]

A lot of slow people here didn't read team vs edo. Meaning that the only way to win is for you you immobilze or seal the person and of course the only person capable of doing that is Nagato by human path, celestial terra or rods, Itachi by Totsukya, and Madara by rods making minato pointless here unless they're trying to evade incoming attacks for no reason.
Team Nagato-Itachi wins this they're not only naturally stronger as a duo more than Madara has ever shown plus they have better sealing.

Ok. Naturally stronger and better sealing based on strictly fallacy and speculation or facts and reason? If you could, extrapolate the sentiment of interest. ​

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Ok. Naturally stronger and better sealing based on strictly fallacy and speculation or facts and reason? If you could, extrapolate the sentiment of interest. ​

Together naturally? Yes they can even edo Itachi himself was able to see this capability himself when he said with both nagato's powers and his that they would be capable of doing anything.
But what really disappoints me is that someone like you would call superior sealing techniques like Totsukya, celestial terra, and Hades a strict fallacy over every capable sealing technique Madara has. For one, you can't name at least two sealing jutsus edo Madara has for himself to use to seal up Nagato and Itachi :lol
I mean that curse mark tag isn't going to restrain anyone who didn't go through a surgical transplant like Obito, so what does Madara have to offer? I only listed three sealing jutsus that are done deal for Madara, so what's your retort?
Rods? The rinnegan can remove those so that's not stopping them. Seriously name one thing.

 

[Waltz]

Together naturally? Yes they can even edo Itachi himself was able to see this capability himself when he said with both nagato's powers and his that they would be capable of doing anything.
But what really disappoints me is that someone like you would call superior sealing techniques like Totsukya, celestial terra, and Hades a strict fallacy over every capable sealing technique Madara has. For one, you can't name at least two sealing jutsus edo Madara has for himself to use to seal up Nagato and Itachi :lol
I mean that curse mark tag isn't going to restrain anyone who didn't go through a surgical transplant like Obito, so what does Madara have to offer? I only listed three sealing jutsus that are done deal for Madara, so what's your retort?
Rods? The rinnegan can remove those so that's not stopping them. Seriously name one thing.

I Never called anything a fallacy I proposed a question on the angle of approach you took to form the conclusion that Itachi and Nagato are naturally stronger and have better sealing techniques whether it was from facts and reason or speculation and fallacy. It's clearly the latter two. Itachi's statement could point to them being capable of doing anything however in truth that's merely exaggeration and what they showcased collectively was nothing superior to what they were capable of while alive. Nothing prohibits Madara from performing the said same sealing methods of Nagato and Nagato's team having more sealing methods doesn't mean they will automatically win because if they can't reach Madara to seal him None of that matters. ​