[VS] 3 men team Vs Edo Madara

[Zexion~]

Being insulted and negged by KG is a privilege

 

[Edogawa]

Nagato can't beat Edo Madara. He gets crushed by Madara's superior arsenal.

Not going to get on that since it's all subjective, but I can give you an explanation if desired.

-PS>50% Kurama bijuu mode. It's bigger more powerful and the avatar needs more fire power than it has to blow up PS.

No, not really. On destructive point of view, PS cuts tip of mountains while TBB blasts them completely, and TBB can be charged much higher magnitude than the standard one, so BM has much superior fire-power to PS and all the required fire-power to bust PS. The slashes won't touch a BM from Minato, when he can teleport or can defend with Kyubi's tails. BM is superior to PS by feats.

 

[Apêx1]

Totsuka Blade pierces through PS, seals it, and then pierces Madarito gg. Or Totsuka blitzes before he can bring up Susano. No need for Nagata and Minato.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Not going to get on that since it's all subjective, but I can give you an explanation if desired.



No, not really. On destructive point of view, PS cuts tip of mountains while TBB blasts them completely, and TBB can be charged much higher magnitude than the standard one, so BM has much superior fire-power to PS and all the required fire-power to bust PS. The slashes won't touch a BM from Minato, when he can teleport or can defend with Kyubi's tails. BM is superior to PS by feats.

enlighten me on how Nagato beats Edo madara. Because the only problem I see is Preta path and the dog summon.
>Didn't PS tank full Kurama's Bijuu bomb with no problem?
>BM Avatar got destroyed from a slam by Juubito i don't think it'll last very long with PS around.
>Minato may be ab;e to teleport out of the shockwave if he has markings outside the battlefield. I don't see BM tanking a slash when KB's tails got cut by chidori spear and KB's BM should have similar durability to Naruto's.

 

[Edogawa]

enlighten me on how Nagato beats Edo madara. Because the only problem I see is Preta path and the dog summon.

I'll send you a vm later.

>Didn't PS tank full Kurama's Bijuu bomb with no problem?

That was unknown. The Susanoo that took the TBB was unstabalized one, and at the moment of explosion with next page afterwards, Susanoo was levelled up to full PS. Nobody is certain whether Susanoo tanked it or it got blown apart, so this is up for debate, but completely irrelevant to PS vs BM. Also, suggesting a TBB from ''full'' Kurama is somehow supposed to validate your point isn't really plausible, since the size of Kurama is inconsistent and disputed, and considering how the movie animates ''full'' Kurama to the size of Yang Kurama, then full Kurama and half Kurama are the same size. The DC from full Kurama's TBB is equal to half Kurama's.

>BM Avatar got destroyed from a slam by Juubito i don't think it'll last very long with PS around.

Terrible example. Jubi's Jin physical strength is ridiculous, seeing as how Obito physically ripped off the Hokage's barrier, which tanked a direct TBB from Jubi. BM's tails are shown to be much more durable than the main body, since they tanked V1 Jubi's TBB, which has greater DC than PS. BM tails would just tank each blade.

>Minato may be ab;e to teleport out of the shockwave if he has markings outside the battlefield. I don't see BM tanking a slash when KB's tails got cut by chidori spear and KB's BM should have similar durability to Naruto's.

Comparing V2 to a BM is plain ridiculous. BM was tanking V1 Jubi's TBB, which has vastly superior DC than PS, with few of its tails lost, so it would easily tank PS blades.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

I'll send you a vm later.



That was unknown. The Susanoo that took the TBB was unstabalized one, and at the moment of explosion with next page afterwards, Susanoo was levelled up to full PS. Nobody is certain whether Susanoo tanked it or it got blown apart, so this is up for debate, but completely irrelevant to PS vs BM. Also, suggesting a TBB from ''full'' Kurama is somehow supposed to validate your point isn't really plausible, since the size of Kurama is inconsistent and disputed, and considering how the movie animates ''full'' Kurama to the size of Yang Kurama, then full Kurama and half Kurama are the same size. The DC from full Kurama's TBB is equal to half Kurama's.



Terrible example. Jubi's Jin physical strength is ridiculous, seeing as how Obito physically ripped off the Hokage's barrier, which tanked a direct TBB from Jubi. BM's tails are shown to be much more durable than the main body, since they tanked V1 Jubi's TBB, which has greater DC than PS. BM tails would just tank each blade.



Comparing V2 to a BM is plain ridiculous. BM was tanking V1 Jubi's TBB, which has vastly superior DC than PS, with few of its tails lost, so it would easily tank PS blades.

What do you mean v2? I was talking about during the Killer Bee vs Taka fight. A tail was about to land on Karin but Sasuke slices it using Chidori spear. My point is the narutoverse blast durability=/=durability from cuts/slashes. That's why Madara could take Lava RS but get bisected and piereced by Sasuke's katana and chidori blade.

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That was full Kurama because Minato didn't split the Kyuubi yet. Kishi is notorious for being inconsistent with sizes but we have to consider there is a diffirence between full and half Kurama. When Minato split Kurama you could see Kurama's paws got way smaller than it's prints. kishi must've drawn that to tell us that Kurama did get smaller.

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Since Kurama got it's chakra depleted by 50% wouldn't that eat into how powerful he can make his tailed beast bombs.

>I doubt that if Susanoo was destroyed, Madara would;ve been able to immediately stabilized a PS moments after the explosion. There's nothing indicating the tbb blew apart his susanoo more of the opposite really.

 

[Edogawa]

What do you mean v2? I was talking about during the Killer Bee vs Taka fight. A tail was about to land on Karin but Sasuke slices it using Chidori spear. My point is the narutoverse blast durability=/=durability from cuts/slashes. That's why Madara could take Lava RS but get bisected and piereced by Sasuke's katana and chidori blade.

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Drawing a comparison using Hachibi as your example isn't plausible, since Hachibi is much less durable than Kurama. Also, V1 Jubi's TBB wasn't a blast, it was 180 degrees, completely concentrated.

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That was full Kurama because Minato didn't split the Kyuubi yet. Kishi is notorious for being inconsistent with sizes but we have to consider there is a diffirence between full and half Kurama. When Minato split Kurama you could see Kurama's paws got way smaller than it's prints. kishi must've drawn that to tell us that Kurama did get smaller.

Kurama regained its size after diving its Chakra with all the 16 years inside Naruto, so that scan is moot. Kurama shrunk in size after its Chakra removed from Naruto, then regained its size by feeding on Naruto's Chakra, so this supports the notion Kurama regained its size. Chakra amount isn't valid to describe Kurama's size, otherwise, Shukaku would be the smallest out of all Biju's, since he has the least amount of Chakra.

Let's take a logical point of view. All Biju's were shown equal in size after Hagoromo created them; now how could of all sudden Kurama becomes twice their sizes, if he was equal to them in childhood? Not to mention we have the movie and Gaiden as reference, that full Kurama and half Kurama are literally equal in size. The argument of full Kurama should now be dropped with Gaiden and movie debunking that notion.

Since Kurama got it's chakra depleted by 50% wouldn't that eat into how powerful he can make his tailed beast bombs.

No, since the TBB he made at his 100% busted a mountain, which is what every standard TBB from every Biju can do.

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>I doubt that if Susanoo was destroyed, Madara would;ve been able to immediately stabilized a PS moments after the explosion. There's nothing indicating the tbb blew apart his susanoo more of the opposite really.

Madara stabilized Susanoo after the explosion.

 

[blazekev90]

Unless PS has sealing abilities, it's pointless. Team wins.

Minato+Nagato would reck after regenerating and gaining intel on PS slash. They're ways to avoid it with Minato present with unlimited chakra.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Minato gives his teamates chakra like naruto, then team wins.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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Drawing a comparison using Hachibi as your example isn't plausible, since Hachibi is much less durable than Kurama. Also, V1 Jubi's TBB wasn't a blast, it was 180 degrees, completely concentrated.

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Kurama regained its size after diving its Chakra with all the 16 years inside Naruto, so that scan is moot. Kurama shrunk in size after its Chakra removed from Naruto, then regained its size by feeding on Naruto's Chakra, so this supports the notion Kurama regained its size. Chakra amount isn't valid to describe Kurama's size, otherwise, Shukaku would be the smallest out of all Biju's, since he has the least amount of Chakra.

Let's take a logical point of view. All Biju's were shown equal in size after Hagoromo created them; now how could of all sudden Kurama becomes twice their sizes, if he was equal to them in childhood? Not to mention we have the movie and Gaiden as reference, that full Kurama and half Kurama are literally equal in size. The argument of full Kurama should now be dropped with Gaiden and movie debunking that notion.



No, since the TBB he made at his 100% busted a mountain, which is what every standard TBB from every Biju can do.

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Madara stabilized Susanoo after the explosion.

kurama never regained his size, or chakra. He was at 50 % up until the refusion

 

[Edogawa]

kurama never regained his size, or chakra. He was at 50 % up until the refusion

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100% Kurama is the same size as 50%.

 

[Warlocks]

maybe Edo Itachi,Edo Nagato,Edo Minato wins :dunno:

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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100% Kurama is the same size as 50%.

how is that proof.

 

[Edogawa]

how is that proof.

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The image is from Gaiden Naruto: 100% Kurama compared to Naruto is the same as 50% Kurama compared to Naruto.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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The image is from Gaiden Naruto: 100% Kurama compared to Naruto is the same as 50% Kurama compared to Naruto.

Thats in naruto's mind. Doesn't count.

Its the equivalent of saying just because naruto has 10% of each tailed beast in him but because they're shown to be full then they're 100%

 

[NarutoX28]

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The image is from Gaiden Naruto: 100% Kurama compared to Naruto is the same as 50% Kurama compared to Naruto.

Things aren't necessarily drawn to scale.

Kishimoto gave us a direct comparison between Full Kurama and 50% Kurama and a direct statement of Kurama shrinking as a result. There's nothing to discuss here.

 

[Edogawa]

Things aren't necessarily drawn to scale.

Kishimoto gave us a direct comparison between Full Kurama and 50% Kurama and a direct statement of Kurama shrinking as a result. There's nothing to discuss here.

Kishimoto gave us a direct comparison between Full Kurama and rest of Biju's, when they were children and shown to be equal in size. There's nothing to discuss here.

 

[Edogawa]

Thats in naruto's mind. Doesn't count.

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Being in Naruto's mind isn't going to change size, lmao.

 

[NarutoX28]

Kishimoto gave us a direct comparison between Full Kurama and rest of Biju's, when they were children and shown to be equal in size. There's nothing to discuss here.

Enough said. You can't use a comparison from what they were children to justify why a Full Grown Kurama is only the size of a Bijuu.

We're given an accurate comparison right here:

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Where Yin Kurama is the size of all of the other Bijuu. Full Kurama is directly stated to be larger than Yang/Yin Kurama, so Full Kurama >> 50% Kurama = Bijuu.

 

[Edogawa]

Enough said. You can't use a comparison from what they were children to justify why a Full Grown Kurama is only the size of a Bijuu.

We're given an accurate comparison right here:

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Where Yin Kurama is the size of all of the other Bijuu. Full Kurama is directly stated to be larger than Yang/Yin Kurama, so Full Kurama >> 50% Kurama = Bijuu.

Kurama will be bigger than the Biju's when they were children, if in his adulthood was twice their size, because according to you, he has acromegaly, so your point is moot, and your scans are invalidated by others. The movie and Gaiden already showed us Full Kurama is the same size as 50%, so there is nothing to talk in here. Your outdated comparisons are all contradicted by new content.