The 2nd TK, limited to only using one ability at a time Kidomaru, who was killed through his own strings
The 2nd TK is alive, but may not combine any named abilities (basically, he can ony use his flight, particle style and camouflage on their own, not in combination with each other). Kidomaru is fresh and healthy. The location is the forest where Kidomaru died. Full knowledge for all. They start 10 metres apart, on the ground
Even with the stipulations he has sensory. Actually stated to be one of the best sensors in the series so I do not think a snipe would be a threat consider Muu can be aware and knowing at all times.
Mu has feats that lead me to believe he can react to a bunch of nin that got solo’d by a group of kids that weren’t even chuunun yet and haven’t even seen battle. Teenagers that were training by Orochimaru himself. He survived the second Mizukage. These MUs seem non-debatable to me. What’s Kidmaru’s defense against a camouflaged assassination then? And full knowledge? Come onnnn lol.
Mu has feats that lead me to believe he can react to a bunch of nin that got solo’d by a group of kids that weren’t even chuunun yet and haven’t even seen battle. Teenagers that were training by Orochimaru himself. He survived the second Mizukage. These MUs seem non-debatable to me. What’s Kidmaru’s defense against a camouflaged assassination then? And full knowledge? Come onnnn lol.
Not to be mean or anything...
But
Literally what the hell is this
A Kage level flicker speed alone will be well outside of what Kidomaru could ever react to. He dies before he can process a thought.
Restrict Mu from all of his offensive ninjutsu entirely and he still rolls Kido over. Flicker Jutsu is all that is needed...From there, he just caves in the dudes throat with Taijutsu and calls it a day.
Not to be mean or anything...
But
Literally what the hell is this
A Kage level flicker speed alone will be well outside of what Kidomaru could ever react to. He dies before he can process a thought.
Restrict Mu from all of his offensive ninjutsu entirely and he still rolls Kido over. Flicker Jutsu is all that is needed...From there, he just caves in the dudes throat with Taijutsu and calls it a day.
That probably explains why Kidomaru without boosts could casually maim an ANBU (ANBU>Jonin, as per mission brief) and traverse 50m+ before the Byakugan could finish activating.
Refer to that awkward moment when even the likes of Gaara and Sasuke in Part 1 (2 top tier names easily comparable to Kidomaru) are literally getting shitblitzed by Gais casual flicker
Mu is hilariously faster than a Part 1 casual Base Gai yet that speed is too much for top level kids names to even SEE
He styled on 1 fodder ANBU without a name, face or feat to his credit
Who he also had to ambush in order to defeat
How impressive
We also know FOR A FACT that Kidomaru even while going CS level 2 IMMEDIATELY while backed up by 3 of his CS level 2 friends when fighting 2 Tokubetsu Jonin WHO ALSO HAPPENED TO BE TOTALLY EXHAUSTED BEFORE THE FIGHT EVEN STARTED, was still so close a fight that Kidomaru and the rest of the Sound 4 outright state they barely won it
For comparison...
Remember the time when Mu is directly stated to be able to throttle as many as 20,000 Shinobi (an entire Allied Division) at the same time?
Neji knew exactly where he was the entire time until Kidomaru straight up left his range entirely, or abused the blindspot in his vision
This is directly stated
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And also...Dude...if you think blitzing a 13 year old Neji is an impressive speed showing that allows you to compete with top level Kage fighters??????
Do I ever have some bad fucking news to break to your misinformed self
Im just telling you that I dont know where youre getting your information, but the fact you think Kidomaru can fight a top shelf Kage is kinda asinine is all
Refer to that awkward moment when even the likes of Gaara and Sasuke in Part 1 (2 top tier names easily comparable to Kidomaru) are literally getting shitblitzed by Gais casual flicker
Mu is hilariously faster than a Part 1 casual Base Gai yet that speed is too much for top level kids names to even SEE
Refer to that awkward moment when Kidomaru in base was active against an entire village of jonin and ANBU . . .
Or are you telling me that the guys around Hiruzen were all relative go chunin and genin? Even the so called special ANBU under the Hokage?
Refer to that awkward moment when Neji is comparable to 5th Gate Lee who is hilariously faster than either Gaara or Sasuke and Kidomaru in base was able to run away from a stronger version of that Neji while his Byakugan was active . . .
He styled on 1 fodder ANBU without a name, face or feat to his credit
Who he also had to ambush in order to defeat
How impressive
We also know FOR A FACT that Kidomaru even while going CS level 2 IMMEDIATELY while backed up by 3 of his CS level 2 friends when fighting 2 Tokubetsu Jonin WHO ALSO HAPPENED TO BE TOTALLY EXHAUSTED BEFORE THE FIGHT EVEN STARTED, was still so close a fight that Kidomaru and the rest of the Sound 4 outright state they barely won it
For comparison...
Remember the time when Mu is directly stated to be able to throttle as many as 20,000 Shinobi (an entire Allied Division) at the same time?
Its part of being ANBU to be faceless . . . are you even trying?
How about the special Hokage command ANBU? You think they are chunin "fodder"?
He came straight onto him from the front . . . At least try!
Ahh, i see. So when i use ranks given in the story, " feats" are all important, but when two guys were Hokage bodyguards it is suddenly their rank which matters? Doesn't seem fair.
A "totally exhausted" person outright faints . . . so either your definition is wrong or you're playing meaningless semantics.
So you are just going to ignore how the team went CS2 because they thought they were full jonin and CS2 on its own tires you out like the 8 Gates? You may as well claim that Kisame pushed 7th Gate Gai even further because Gai needed a bigger rest after fighting him.
So now it is "shinobi" and not "nameless fodder"? Loving your standards!
Neji knew exactly where he was the entire time until Kidomaru straight up left his range entirely, or abused the blindspot in his vision
This is directly stated
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And also...Dude...if you think blitzing a 13 year old Neji is an impressive speed showing that allows you to compete with top level Kage fighters??????
Im just telling you that I dont know where youre getting your information, but the fact you think Kidomaru can fight a top shelf Kage is kinda asinine is all
If i am wrecking you while answering in the same tone as you, that means even your own spirit of doing things doesn't back you. Now imagine if i actually answered you seriously, according to my own style.
Look, you're a treat, but i don't fancy answering the same warped logic 8 times over. So i will leave the other threads for now (Symmetra and Moxxi are well suited to dealing with them anyways) and just focus on this and Deidara.
Muu wins his jinton alone allows him to cause large amounts of damage to the battlefield let alone his other powers like gravity control and invisibility and cloning. His flight powers also give him a large advantage