2 new things about kamui + what obito did was logical + 2 ideas that are wrong

[ThatKidJosiah]

First new thing about kamui .So today we've learned that Kamui (a *dimensional* teleportation jutsu) can switch from one dimension to another ONLY IF there is a link (kakashi and obito's chakra) between the two dimensions.

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"Our chakras have the power to connect both worlds" - Obito (Pg. 5)
kakashi's chakra (energy) were their link, which made them meet up.

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Obito teleported to the battlefield and met up with kakashi due to their connection (their link)

Second New thing about kamui. I've learned that Kamui can open different dimensions, within a dimension. basically he can use his kamui and see different dimensions (multiverses). For example, he can open up a terrain of acid, lava, snow, sand..

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Here is an example of Obito opening a different dimension (Acid dimension), within a dimension.


what obito did is logical. In reality, if a spirit is connected to you from the spirit world to earth then it can meet you,communicate with you and could potentially possess you because you are connected to it. If there is a link between both spirit and human then you and the spirit can communicate or meet each other.

Ideas that are wrong
Now here are some ideas that are wrong and that i have to shut down. correct me if im wrong.

First wrong idea. ...Now that we've seen that obito teleported or shift dimensions people will say this : Minato has a teleportation technique. with that technique he can teleport from POINT A to POINT B.
Now when switching from one dimension to another, If Minato marks POINT A with his kunai and marks POINT B with himself or another kunai then he can teleport back and forth due to the LINK or the CONNECTION.

This is wrong. Teleportation is the a theory of instantaneous travel. Dimensional teleportation or Dimensional shifting is something different...

Lets say if obito warped minato during the attack of the 9 tails on the leaf village, minato would've been gone for good. if minato had his teleportation kunai in naruto dimension and warped away to kamui dimension then the connection between minato and the kunai would've been lost because minato is not in that dimension. Point A or Point B doesn't exist so the connection is lost.

Same thing for sasuke's teleportation jutsu with his sharinnegan. he can teleport from point A to Point B in an instant, in his current dimension but can't shift dimensions. The ONLY way sasuke can teleport through a dimension is if it's visible for example when sasuke was in the desert and he seen the portal that obito opened up through his kamui power.

Second Idea that is wrong. ...Also FTG cannot shift dimensions. it can only shift from one place to another in an instant.

So Minato, Tobirama and sasuke just don't have dimensional shifting powers like kaguya and obito.

...I think im all done here =D. if you think i'm incorrect please do correct me.

 

[Raphael sannin]

Thanks for sharing your opinions with the members of NB.
+rep.

 

[The Necromancer]

So the afterlife is just another dimension now...

 

[Remion18]

So the afterlife is just another dimension now...

I can't bear that thought.

 

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

So the afterlife is just another dimension now...

Just think of it like when Kenobi keeps his spirit intact when he dies, and can come back to talk to Luke.

 

[ThatKidJosiah]

So the afterlife is just another dimension now...

Your afterlife takes place in the spiritual dimension... don't get lippy with me boy

 

[Koha]

So the afterlife is just another dimension now...

Yup... Just look at Impure World Resurrection. It does make a little sense that the afterlife in
itself is just another dimension being able to pull and summon souls out of the "Pure World".

 

[Loki d]

So the afterlife is just another dimension now...

So you are retarded now

 

[The Necromancer]

Your afterlife takes place in the spiritual dimension...

Kakashi was amazed and didn't believe Sasuke could summon his hawk across dimensions.

Edo Tensei would do just that according to your theory.

I don't believe it's true.

 

[ThatKidJosiah]

Kakashi was amazed and didn't believe Sasuke could summon his hawk across dimensions.

Edo Tensei would do just that according to your theory.

I don't believe it's true.

Well even though Edo tensei characters such as minato tobirama hashirama aren't alive, they were summoned right? if it wasn't for that they still would've been in the spiritual realm and not in shinobi dimension... The only counter that can be used against what i said was edo tensei because they're dead and not in the spiritual dimension.

 

[OWanime]

it's cool that obito can do these things even though it may only be temporary xd nice explanation

 

[AburameShino]

I am surprised that people are so shocked that obitos chakra could interact with kakashis post death.

Anyone here remember about hagaromo/ashura/Indra?

Obito could be transmigrant if he didn't prefer the afterlife I think.

 

[Troyg39]

Well we won't be able to prove one another wrong but I have to say I disagree with you on Minato, Tobirama, and Sasuke. You basically made up your own rules and disregarded given standards in the manga.

Your point A to point B is incorrect. "Dimensional shifting" and "Dimensional teleportation" are two phrases that you not only made up, but honestly you gave incorrect definitions for based on the words used to make them up.

The only constant in this argument is that any Space-Time Jutsu involved travel through a dimensional void.

In your point A to B logic, you did not take this into account. When Minato uses FTG, he temporarily leaves the dimension. It is instantaneous travel yes, but under the rules of a space-time jutsu, it is instantaneous travel via dimensional void Even if point A and B exist in the same plane, the distance, or travel path, between them does not take place in the same plane. Otherwise it isn't a space-time jutsu and he is simply using body flicker. Putting it in terms of your language, FTG is dimensional shifting because FTG users actually do enter/exit a dimensional void according to the rules of Space-Time jutsu. As long as Minato has an established connection, he can teleport there given the rules of FTG and space-time jutsu. Since the travel always exists outside of the plane that point A exists, dimensions do not prohibit the rules of FTG, and there does not need to be an open portal or anything else you tried to imply. Simply a connection via chakra.

Even with Sasuke, while yes he technically needs a portal open to cross dimensions, that isn't because dimensions hinder his technique. The difference in him and FTG is that FTG has no given range limit. Because there is a range limitation on Sasuke, he needs a dimensional door open in order to cross dimensions. If there wasn't a limit on the range of his teleportation, then all he would need to do is see into that dimension and he could cross them.

Your point A to B argument fails in my opinion because it makes the mistake of stating the travel happens on the same plane as the points, which is does not.

 

[Migster257]

Well we won't be able to prove one another wrong but I have to say I disagree with you on Minato, Tobirama, and Sasuke. You basically made up your own rules and disregarded given standards in the manga.

Your point A to point B is incorrect. "Dimensional shifting" and "Dimensional teleportation" are two phrases that you not only made up, but honestly you gave incorrect definitions for based on the words used to make them up.

The only constant in this argument is that any Space-Time Jutsu involved travel through a dimensional void.

In your point A to B logic, you did not take this into account. When Minato uses FTG, he temporarily leaves the dimension. It is instantaneous travel yes, but under the rules of a space-time jutsu, it is instantaneous travel via dimensional void Even if point A and B exist in the same plane, the distance, or travel path, between them does not take place in the same plane. Otherwise it isn't a space-time jutsu and he is simply using body flicker. Putting it in terms of your language, FTG is dimensional shifting because FTG users actually do enter/exit a dimensional void according to the rules of Space-Time jutsu. As long as Minato has an established connection, he can teleport there given the rules of FTG and space-time jutsu. Since the travel always exists outside of the plane that point A exists, dimensions do not prohibit the rules of FTG, and there does not need to be an open portal or anything else you tried to imply. Simply a connection via chakra.

Even with Sasuke, while yes he technically needs a portal open to cross dimensions, that isn't because dimensions hinder his technique. The difference in him and FTG is that FTG has no given range limit. Because there is a range limitation on Sasuke, he needs a dimensional door open in order to cross dimensions. If there wasn't a limit on the range of his teleportation, then all he would need to do is see into that dimension and he could cross them.

Your point A to B argument fails in my opinion because it makes the mistake of stating the travel happens on the same plane as the points, which is does not.

Although I think you are completely correct, I can't accept this. Your profile picture is a black man, and I refuse to believe any black person is this smart. #noracism

 

[Troyg39]

Although I think you are completely correct, I can't accept this. Your profile picture is a black man, and I refuse to believe any black person is this smart. #noracism

You know, every time I post up here I wonder how many people actually believe these answers are coming from me. I've been waiting for someone to just come out and say it. It is really me though by the way. There are some intelligent ones among us

 

[Ashura San]

You're misunderstanding FTG and teleportation period. When one teleports they are bending time and space. You Bend space to open a portal for you to enter into. In said portal, time is also bent, making teleporting seem instant when it's actually not.

So the FTG users do indeed travel to another dimension before returning to their normal dimension.

 

[ThatKidJosiah]

Well we won't be able to prove one another wrong but I have to say I disagree with you on Minato, Tobirama, and Sasuke. You basically made up your own rules and disregarded given standards in the manga.

Your point A to point B is incorrect. "Dimensional shifting" and "Dimensional teleportation" are two phrases that you not only made up, but honestly you gave incorrect definitions for based on the words used to make them up.

The only constant in this argument is that any Space-Time Jutsu involved travel through a dimensional void.

In your point A to B logic, you did not take this into account. When Minato uses FTG, he temporarily leaves the dimension. It is instantaneous travel yes, but under the rules of a space-time jutsu, it is instantaneous travel via dimensional void Even if point A and B exist in the same plane, the distance, or travel path, between them does not take place in the same plane. Otherwise it isn't a space-time jutsu and he is simply using body flicker. Putting it in terms of your language, FTG is dimensional shifting because FTG users actually do enter/exit a dimensional void according to the rules of Space-Time jutsu. As long as Minato has an established connection, he can teleport there given the rules of FTG and space-time jutsu. Since the travel always exists outside of the plane that point A exists, dimensions do not prohibit the rules of FTG, and there does not need to be an open portal or anything else you tried to imply. Simply a connection via chakra.

Even with Sasuke, while yes he technically needs a portal open to cross dimensions, that isn't because dimensions hinder his technique. The difference in him and FTG is that FTG has no given range limit. Because there is a range limitation on Sasuke, he needs a dimensional door open in order to cross dimensions. If there wasn't a limit on the range of his teleportation, then all he would need to do is see into that dimension and he could cross them.

Your point A to B argument fails in my opinion because it makes the mistake of stating the travel happens on the same plane as the points, which is does not.

So you're saying that Minato, and Tobirama (forget about sasuke right now) can use their FTG to go to Kaguya's dimension if there is a link between both dimensions? If so, that means that it's possible for Minato, tobirama tagged along with the others can leave shinobi dimension if there is a link between both dimension. if there is someone from POINT A (Kaguya's Dimension) that is connected To POINT B (Shinobi Dimension). (POINT A is the first dimension and POINT B is the second dimension)
Is this right then?