[VS] 2 MS Obito vs 2 MS Kakashi

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Sorry to interrupt but I had to address these points. U_U

Kakashi cancel's obito's kamui with his rikudo empowered kamui then blitzes him.

Feats of kakashi cancelling kamui?

OR
Kakashi sends a clone to kamui land and they pick him off the original way.

Obito can eject people from his dimension, so this outdated strategy is rather useless. [ ]

OR

Kakashi sends him to kamui land (since kakashi's kamui is LEAGUE'S faster than obito's) and murdered him there.

The sniping eye is faster than the short-ranged eye, nothing more. & In any case obito already caught kakashi before he could use kamui, so no it's not leagues above the original owner's. [ ]
 

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obito negs ....
 

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Sorry to interrupt but I had to address these points. U_U



Feats of kakashi cancelling kamui?
Touche. This is a feats only deal.



Obito can eject people from his dimension, so this outdated strategy is rather useless. [ ]
He can't eject what he isn't aware of.



The sniping eye is faster than the short-ranged eye, nothing more. & In any case obito already caught kakashi before he could use kamui, so no it's not leagues above the original owner's. [ ]

The sniping eye has shown be faster than obito's best reactions, and the only reason obito was even aware in the scan you showed is because kakashi had to charge it. Charge time is virtually nonexistent for somthing the size of a clone.

Am I to expect any more interruptions? Or r we done here?
 

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Touche. This is a feats only deal.

He can't eject what he isn't aware of.

The sniping eye has shown be faster than obito's best reactions, and the only reason obito was even aware in the scan you showed is because kakashi had to charge it. Charge time is virtually nonexistent for somthing the size of a clone.

Am I to expect any more interruptions? Or r we done here?

Yeah, I agree with your answers so I guess we're done here. :p
 

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Obito shits... He can simply play the evading Kakashi games until his power-up dies down... Or He could simply use Izanagi and wait for it either way Obito takes this med diff...
 

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Well Kakashi can't use kamui as long as Obito due to lacking Hashirama's DNA. So....Obito wins.
 

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So instead of showing me a scan of obito producing black rods that big, u show a scan of gedo mazo producing them.... lol.

Funny part is thats not even madara's feat since it was done by bz.

That wasn't from Gedo mazou, Gedo was on top of the flower.

It came from the clones navel, which Madara gave him permission to use.

On top of that he's produce many even bigger ones:





 

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Obito obviously wins. There's no way Kakashi could beat Obito with Obito's own eyes

Same way Nagato can't beat Madara

Original power > Borrowed power!
 

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Obito stops giving kakashi power and then curb stomps him.
If Kakashi has implanted a clone of Obito's eyes, then he shrivels up after 6 seconds.
 

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That wasn't from Gedo mazou, Gedo was on top of the flower.

It came from the clones navel, which Madara gave him permission to use.

On top of that he's produce many even bigger ones:








It was gedo mazo.
Mads says it himself.

And in the three examples you produced none of the spikes are anywhere near ps head size.
 

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It was gedo mazo.
Mads says it himself.

And in the three examples you produced none of the spikes are anywhere near ps head size.

Madara didn't say anything about the rods and Gedo mazou at the same time, so you need to stop lying there that scans proves nothing.



Clearly the clone was synced into Gedo mazou to bring out the white Zetsu's, black zetsu said so himself.

Same applied to the black rods, he didn't know that it came from Gedo mazou.

The last rod that came from kamui was bijuu size, and look carefully what those rods are for.
 
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Madara didn't say anything about the rods and Gedo mazou at the same time, so you need to stop lying there that scans proves nothing.



Clearly the clone was synced into Gedo mazou to bring out the white Zetsu's, black zetsu said so himself.

Same applied to the black rods, he didn't know that it came from Gedo mazou.

The last rod that came from kamui was bijuu size, and look carefully what those rods are for.

It dosen't matter. Rods that big only came from Gedo mazo. He says it right there. "I turned the shell (gedo) into a catalyst for hashirama cells".

And we all know the black rods are kaguya's will not madara's or obitos.

Therefore the rods being that big(still small in comparison to kamui Shuriken) is only a feat that can be given to bz.

No it wasn't. It was multiple rods smaller than that of a bijju. Where as kamui Shuriken is either equal in size to bijuu or greater in size than biju.
 

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Kakashi can literally do everything Obito can do, plus more due this being feats only. Kakashi wins.
 

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Kakashi only has his powers for 5 mins top.. lol.
 

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It dosen't matter. Rods that big only came from Gedo mazo. He says it right there. "I turned the shell (gedo) into a catalyst for hashirama cells".

Rods that big came from Kamui dimension, which subdued a bijuu.


And we all know the black rods are kaguya's will not madara's or obitos.

The one from Kaguya was already attached to white zetsu, the other rods were specifically made for a set of Justus


Therefore the rods being that big(still small in comparison to kamui Shuriken) is only a feat that can be given to bz.

Not the stakes that came from his dimensions.

On top of that, kamui shurikens is a pretty stupid move to use.

You're basically aiding the creator of his dimensions back into his own world.

No it wasn't. It was multiple rods smaller than that of a bijju. Where as kamui Shuriken is either equal in size to bijuu or greater in size than biju.

That's completely false, it had problems warping a whole chakra hand let alone a whole bijuu.

Size is complete off
 

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Obito obviously wins. There's no way Kakashi could beat Obito with Obito's own eyes

Same way Nagato can't beat Madara

Original power > Borrowed power!

Bahahaha. This fool got banned.
 

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Rods that big came from Kamui dimension, which subdued a bijuu.
No that's a different scan form the original you showed me. And again no. Them subduing bijuu (and it took more than 1 to do it) is what they're made 4. Size wise it's inferior.




The one from Kaguya was already attached to white zetsu, the other rods were specifically made for a set of Justus
No it all came from bz.





Not the stakes that came from his dimensions.
still inferior in size to kamui Shuriken.

On top of that, kamui shurikens is a pretty stupid move to use.

You're basically aiding the creator of his dimensions back into his own world.
by forcing him to warp against his own will kakashi can take advantage of him. Not to mention the ripping nature might rip obito's body apart just like it did the chakra arms.



That's completely false, it had problems warping a whole chakra hand let alone a whole bijuu.
lol. You're not taking into account how big thor chakra arms are.

Size is complete off
let me scale it 4 u.

Rods visibly smaller than tailed beasts:
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Tailed beasts in comparison to v3 leg susanno:
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Do I have to go further? You know the difference between legged susanno and Perfect susanno. You're aware of the drastic size jump.

The shuriken were as big as the perfect susanno's head:
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Yet despite looking tiny when coming in contact with the chakra arms, their effect area was much greater than that of the chakra arms.

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It's like senbon trying to stop a windmill shuriken.
 

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No that's a different scan form the original you showed me. And again no. Them subduing bijuu (and it took more than 1 to do it) is what they're made 4. Size wise it's inferior.

There was never a limit to how many can be used.



No it all came from bz.

Wrong...

This is black zetsu:



This is the rods used for the Justus:




still inferior in size to kamui Shuriken.

Just a means of interception, multiple stakes being big ejected is big enough to intercept that little whole.


by forcing him to warp against his own will kakashi can take advantage of him. Not to mention the ripping nature might rip obito's body apart just like it did the chakra arms.

Doesn't make a lick of sense at all..

1) never explained how he is taken advantage of

2) kamui has distorted his body multiple times, he's not going to get ripped by a kamui whole the size of two of his body.

Believe me, Kakashi will be doing him a favor.

3) Kakashi can't take advantage of Obito's dimension that he controls

It's like Kakashi trying to take advantage of Kaguya's dimension, it clearly doesn't work that way.


lol. You're not taking into account how big thor chakra arms are.

let me scale it 4 u.

Rods visibly smaller than tailed beasts:
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Tailed beasts in comparison to v3 leg susanno:
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Do I have to go further? You know the difference between legged susanno and Perfect susanno. You're aware of the drastic size jump.

The shuriken were as big as the perfect susanno's head:
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Yet despite looking tiny when coming in contact with the chakra arms, their effect area was much greater than that of the chakra arms.

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It's like senbon trying to stop a windmill shuriken.

I hope you take into account of the quantity that is being produced.

I kamui whole is not bigger than a bijuu, I know damn well sure it's not.
 

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There was never a limit to how many can be used.
When did I say there was? And fyi the limit would be how many he put in kamui dimension.





Wrong...

This is black zetsu:



This is the rods used for the Justus:

both were toted as madara's will. Yet both were in existence before that of madara? Why? He said it himself. It's kaguya's will. Madara had nothing to do with either of the scans you posted.




Just a means of interception, multiple stakes being big ejected is big enough to intercept that little whole.
no. Needles isn't gonna stop windmill shuriken. No matter how many you throw at it.




Doesn't make a lick of sense at all..

1) never explained how he is taken advantage of
A clone being on the other side.

2) kamui has distorted his body multiple times, he's not going to get ripped by a kamui whole the size of two of his body.
Actually kakashi's kamui never distorted his body. But in this case it would rip him apart like it did deidara.

Believe me, Kakashi will be doing him a favor
lol

3) Kakashi can't take advantage of Obito's dimension that he controls
Obito dosent control the dimension tho. Or elsewhere he would have stopped kakashi form using it against him in manga cannon.

It's like Kakashi trying to take advantage of Kaguya's dimension, it clearly doesn't work that way.
Kamui already did.




I hope you take into account of the quantity that is being produced.

I kamui whole is not bigger than a bijuu, I know damn well sure it's not.

The quantity changes nothing seeing as how kakashi can throw more than 1.

Kakashi already said with enough chakra he can use kamui to warp the juubi, so saying bull shit like the bolded is flat out laughable. Not to mention the Last scan shows him doing just that, AND he already did it to the hachibi. So him doing it via shuriken is beyond possible. It's expected.
 
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