2/3 of wildlife estimated to be wiped out by 2020

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Probably in the trillions. I don't think they gave an actual raw number of the totality of all species. They break down each group to their habitat and the percentages vary. So fish would have lost more than say landmass population.

Here's the actual report.





Would you care if prices go up?
In regards to those prices, you are talking about wildlife, not livestock. So cows, chickens, sheep, pigs etc. don't fall under that category. It depends on the region, but overall seen in the Western world there isn't that much wildlife on the menu as we primarily eat livestock. Yes wildlife can be on the menu, but by default that's already quite expensive and is largely eaten by people who already have money. So I doubt that the disappearance of wildlife will increase the price of our regular meat, at least not directly. You could even theorize it would go down as one of the primary reasons wildlife diminishes is because humans take over their natural habitat for farming and livestock. So less wildlife means more territories, more livestock and thus lower meat prizes.

I'm not talking about fish though as that's a separate case.
 

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As the title says, recent studies suggest that in 3 years time, with our current trend, 2/3 of all wildlife dating back from the 1970's may get killed off. To clarify, the study is referring to the total population size of all wildlife, not simply the extinction of certain species. The overall impact of such a development is still debated and some, as in very few, scientists hold reservation to the severity; but overall there is a majority consensus that this is a critically dire situation we find ourselves in.

Note that these studies were compiled by non-profit organizations from multiple countries.







Thesis, Antithesis and Synthesis or Problem, Reaction and Solution.

Perfect Example of The Hegelian Dialectic. The synthetic solution to these conflicts can't be introduced unless those being manipulated take a side that will advance the pre-determined agenda. Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegal

George Soros is a current prime example as to how non-profits are used to advance an agenda.

In this particular case, the US government over the last few decades have taken over quite a bit of the nations mainland but theres a limit as to how much we are willing to let them take. Contriving studies like these are designed to get the people to ask the government to do more there by allowing their pre determined agenda to be advanced.

This strategy is old and I wonder how much longer they have before theres no one left that will fall for this crap.

I'll address this to my Vegan friends,

The pesticides in gmo crops are designed to kill bees in order to keep them from spreading their patented product. The bee population has been in decline since these products have been developed. If the bee population isn't protected we will have a much larger problem than the one these studies claim and these same non-profits and great overseer's of the world won't dare produce a study that would criticize and interrupt the cash flow of their buddies in the GMO business on the contrary their more likely to produce their own contrived studies to combat any claim that would hurt the cash cows that give them money...
 
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Thesis, Antithesis and Synthesis or Problem, Reaction and Solution.

Perfect Example of The Hegelian Dialectic. The synthetic solution to these conflicts can't be introduced unless those being manipulated take a side that will advance the pre-determined agenda. Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegal

George Soros is a current prime example as to how non-profits are used to advance an agenda.

In this particular case, the US government over the last few decades have taken over quite a bit of the nations mainland but theres a limit as to how much we are willing to let them take. Contriving studies like these are designed to get the people to ask the government to do more there by allowing their pre determined agenda to be advanced.

This strategy is old and I wonder how much longer they have before theres no one left that will fall for this crap.
So all of these non-profit organizations from different countries formed an Illuminati group with each other in order to give the U.S. more power? You do realize this study isn't just about the U.S. It's about wildlife everywhere and with data we've had since the 70s....

George Soros isn't Moriarty, he's just a scapegoat by right-wing media pundits like Alex Jones to get views. Speaking of Alex Jones, the man who really pushed the whole notion about George Soros being a criminal mastermind, he recently admitted in a court case that this is all just fake and that he believes none of it.
 
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So all of these non-profit organizations from different countries formed an Illuminati group with each other in order to give the U.S. more power? You do realize this study isn't just about the U.S. It's about wildlife everywhere and with data we've had since the 70s....

George Soros isn't Moriarty, he's just a scapegoat by right-wing media pundits like Alex Jones to get views. Speaking of Alex Jones, the man who really pushed the whole notion about George Soros being a criminal mastermind, he recently admitted in a court case that this is all just fake and that he believes none of it.
How does Alex Jones come into this?? Hes a schill and spews garbage.

Theres a 20/20 video out there where Soros was interviewed and asked about his direct involvement in collapsing currencies etc which he very openly admitted to. Its not hard to research Soros or the non-profits Soros supports and the activities of those non-profits. By no means is he the only one. I just use him as an example because most people have heard of him by now.

You do know that the Bilderberg group had been a crazy right wing conspiracy theory for decades don't you? Every conspiracy isn't a theory and those that have an immediate response like yours to a post like the one you quoted shows how ingrained your programming is.
Data since the 70's you say? Cool beans but what does that have to do with anything? Are you assuming that what I've stated had ben based on short sighted goals that only recently been developed?

Studies from around the world you say? Clearly that denotes no collusion... Let me leave you with a quote and a question. "The hand that gives is above the hand receives" Is there such a hand in the world? IMF? World Bank? etc etc. Who controls the worlds private central banks? Certainly they've amassed the worlds wealth. what else could they desire? Control maybe??

Come on man, don't make it so easy for them...

Edit: Let me add to my earlier statement by saying its not just that non-profits are used to advance an agenda, the non-profits that partake in these activities were created in the first place as a cover to carry out a particular agenda.
 
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How does Alex Jones come into this?? Hes a schill and spews garbage.

Theres a 20/20 video out there where Soros was interviewed and asked about his direct involvement in collapsing currencies etc which he very openly admitted to. Its not hard to research Soros or the non-profits Soros supports and the activities of those non-profits. By no means is he the only one. I just use him as an example because most people have heard of him by now.

You do know that the Bilderberg group had been a crazy right wing conspiracy theory for decades don't you? Every conspiracy isn't a theory and those that have an immediate response like yours to a post like the one you quoted shows how ingrained your programming is.
Data since the 70's you say? Cool beans but what does that have to do with anything? Are you assuming that what I've stated had ben based on short sighted goals that only recently been developed?

Studies from around the world you say? Clearly that denotes no collusion... Let me leave you with a quote and a question. "The hand that gives is above the hand receives" Is there such a hand in the world? IMF? World Bank? etc etc. Who controls the worlds private central banks? Certainly they've amassed the worlds wealth. what else could they desire? Control maybe??

Come on man, don't make it so easy for them...

Edit: Let me add to my earlier statement by saying its not just that non-profits are used to advance an agenda, the non-profits that partake in these activities were created in the first place as a cover to carry out a particular agenda.
Because Alex Jones spews the exact same garbage you just admitted to believing.....

No, it's just I heard all of these stories before with no evidence attached to them. And you desperately believe them because the reality is either too boring or too hard to accept for you. You just want to feel like life is a movie and that there are all of these fantastical conspiracies with a figurehead on top.

It's childish and it distracts from the real problems of the world, because people indulge in rabbit hole theories.

The thread was about the world losing wildlife populations and here you are spewing some shadow government nonsense.
 

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Because Alex Jones spews the exact same garbage you just admitted to believing.....

No, it's just I heard all of these stories before with no evidence attached to them. And you desperately believe them because the reality is either too boring or too hard to accept for you. You just want to feel like life is a movie and that there are all of these fantastical conspiracies with a figurehead on top.

It's childish and it distracts from the real problems of the world, because people indulge in rabbit hole theories.

The thread was about the world losing wildlife populations and here you are spewing some shadow government nonsense.
Jones is just a more sensationalized version of the mainstream media taking a truth and convoluting it to the point that anyone who touches those subjects are automatically lumped in with the crazies by design in the eyes of the Zombie spoon fed masses that are too lazy to actually research anything with depth for themselves and instead just believes what others tell them in repetition.

Someone says "One world government" and yall cry conspiracy when the verifiable truth is that the world has progressed from tribalism to statehood to unions. The next progressive step IS a one world government. Is that not the next logical progression as you see it?

How do you get to that point? What happened to Native American tribes when faced against a nation builder? What happened to the South in the Civil war when they tried to leave the union of states? What do think will happen to a nation that opposes a union of the world? For the latter you are seeing it now. Opposers will be torn down and rebuilt with those who accept.

Go read a couple of JFK's own speeches then come back and tell me that he was a nut also or maybe it is you who lives in a contrived fantasy land.

Heres a quote:
“The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings… Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe… no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of “clear and present danger,” then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent… For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.” — John F Kennedy, 35th President of the United States, from a speech delivered to the American Newspaper Publishers Association on April 27, 1961 and known as the “Secret Society” speech.


What I've laid out here is irrefutable. The only argument that can be had is whether or not this progression is a natural one being driven by the desire of the earth's masses or is it driven by the worlds elite's in opposition to the masses.

I side with JFK and many respectable others who have put themselves out there to warn us.
 

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Jones is just a more sensationalized version of the mainstream media taking a truth and convoluting it to the point that anyone who touches those subjects are automatically lumped in with the crazies by design in the eyes of the Zombie spoon fed masses that are too lazy to actually research anything with depth for themselves and instead just believes what others tell them in repetition.

Someone says "One world government" and yall cry conspiracy when the verifiable truth is that the world has progressed from tribalism to statehood to unions. The next progressive step IS a one world government. Is that not the next logical progression as you see it?

How do you get to that point? What happened to Native American tribes when faced against a nation builder? What happened to the South in the Civil war when they tried to leave the union of states? What do think will happen to a nation that opposes a union of the world? For the latter you are seeing it now. Opposers will be torn down and rebuilt with those who accept.

Go read a couple of JFK's own speeches then come back and tell me that he was a nut also or maybe it is you who lives in a contrived fantasy land.

Heres a quote:
“The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings… Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe… no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of “clear and present danger,” then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent… For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.” — John F Kennedy, 35th President of the United States, from a speech delivered to the American Newspaper Publishers Association on April 27, 1961 and known as the “Secret Society” speech.


What I've laid out here is irrefutable. The only argument that can be had is whether or not this progression is a natural one being driven by the desire of the earth's masses or is it driven by the worlds elite's in opposition to the masses.

I side with JFK and many respectable others who have put themselves out there to warn us.
You're going all over the place with your talking points and the only thing you've presented to me is a quote and hearsay, and then claim it to be irrefutable.

Let's backtrack to non-profit organizations. You said this earlier:

Let me add to my earlier statement by saying its not just that non-profits are used to advance an agenda, the non-profits that partake in these activities were created in the first place as a cover to carry out a particular agenda.
Well no shit. What else is the purpose of non-profit organizations except to push for a certain agenda? In this case, it's to observe wildlife and report on it, with the hopes of mitigating the problems that affect wildlife. You're acting like all agendas are sinister at their core.

Unless you have some actual data that disputes the studies or empirical evidence that reveals a sinister agenda, then there is no point in continuing this pointless conversation.
 

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You're going all over the place with your talking points and the only thing you've presented to me is a quote and hearsay, and then claim it to be irrefutable.

Let's backtrack to non-profit organizations. You said this earlier:



Well no shit. What else is the purpose of non-profit organizations except to push for a certain agenda? In this case, it's to observe wildlife and report on it, with the hopes of mitigating the problems that affect wildlife. You're acting like all agendas are sinister at their core.

Unless you have some actual data that disputes the studies or empirical evidence that reveals a sinister agenda, then there is no point in continuing this pointless conversation.
So you need me to prove the Natives lived in tribes and that they were destroyed in or to form America? You need that for the civil war part also?

Are you telling me you can't comprehend the progressive march towards globalization that has taken place and the cost that has been incurred in the process?

As for non-profits americasvoice.org is just one of several funded by Soros. Its an open borders group that among many things advocates for rights of all immigrants in the US. America has no obligation to grant Constitutional rights to non citizens.
Open boarders is what you have when you give up your sovereignty. Just askany US statesman if their state is sovereign.


The fact that you only commented on my statements to point out I haven't cited anything yet have no response to the JFK quote I posted shows your not interested in facts whether I provide them or not. Your not open to anything you don't already accept so clearly there is no point to continue.

Your welcome to respond but if your gonna just cry conspiracy and hide behind your msm talking points with no logical backstop than I won't bother responding.
 

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So you need me to prove the Natives lived in tribes and that they were destroyed in or to form America? You need that for the civil war part also?

Are you telling me you can't comprehend the progressive march towards globalization that has taken place and the cost that has been incurred in the process?

As for non-profits americasvoice.org is just one of several funded by Soros. Its an open borders group that among many things advocates for rights of all immigrants in the US. America has no obligation to grant Constitutional rights to non citizens.
Open boarders is what you have when you give up your sovereignty. Just askany US statesman if their state is sovereign.


The fact that you only commented on my statements to point out I haven't cited anything yet have no response to the JFK quote I posted shows your not interested in facts whether I provide them or not. Your not open to anything you don't already accept so clearly there is no point to continue.

Your welcome to respond but if your gonna just cry conspiracy and hide behind your msm talking points with no logical backstop than I won't bother responding.
That literally has nothing to do with this thread nor have you yet to provide the evidence I asked for.

The JFK quote was made during the Cold War era.

You should read the constitution. Constitutional rights applies to everyone regardless of citizenship.

This conversation is over. Thank you for participating.
 
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lmfao
1. we still got some overpopulated animals that has become a big problem in areas. i.e deers, kangaroos, pigs. etc
2.we have explored less than 5% of the ocean. plenty of creatures untouched etc
3. wildlife preservation exist and is growing rapidly, managed to revive what was guaranteed extinction for some animals
 
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lmfao
1. we still got some overpopulated animals that has become a big problem in areas. i.e deers, kangaroos, pigs. etc
2.we have explored less than 5% of the ocean. plenty of creatures untouched etc
3. wildlife preservation exist and is growing rapidly, managed to revive what was guaranteed extinction for some animals
1. Wildlife isn't just deer, pigs, and kangaroos. That's like saying China is overpopulated so it's ok if we Nuke Japan.
2. Do you have numbers to prove how many have been untouched? Didn't think so. We fish in that 5%, not the abyssal depths.
3. Well it didn't revive almost 2/3 of wildlife lost now did it?
 
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1. Wildlife isn't just deer, pigs, and kangaroos.
2. Do you have numbers to prove how many have been untouched? Didn't think so. We fish in that 5%, not the abyssal depths.
3. Well it didn't revive almost 2/3 of wildlife lost now did it?

acknowledges that species has and can be saved from brink of extinction*

acknowledges that less than 5% of the ocean worth of underwater species has yet to be explored*










still believes 1/3rd of wild life will remain by 2020



lmfao
 
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acknowledges that species has and can be saved from brink of extinction*

acknowledges that less than 5% of the ocean worth of underwater species(millions) has yet to be explored*










still believes 1/3rd of wild life will remain by 2020



lmfao
You do realize that this is accumulated data since the 1970s....and that we've already lost almost 2/3 of all wildlife since, right?

Your ocean argument is a grand assumption. If we didn't explore the depths, how would you know how many species there are? For all we know the depths don't contain as much fish.

So yeah you're elementary level of thinking is wrong.

Facts>opinion.
 
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You do realize that this is accumulated data since the 1970s....and that we've already lost almost 2/3 of all wildlife since, right?

You're ocean argument is a baseless assumption. If we didn't explore the depths, how would you know how many species there are? For all we know the depths don't contain as much fish.

So yeah you're elementary level of thinking is wrong.

Facts>opinion.
It's funny because even elementary level thinking is far above your special challenged needs.

"facts > opinion" lol

[some conservationists have criticized the report's results, saying it could be "misleading."
"That's a fairly silly kind of number to report,"said Stuart Pimm, the Doris Duke Chair of Conservation Ecology at Duke University, referring to the overall 58% decline in wildlife populations."It mixes what's going on in the ocean with what's going on in the land. It mixes studies of bird populations in Europe with mammal populations in Africa. It has very few data points in South America."]
 

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It's funny because even elementary level thinking is far above your special challenged needs.

"facts > opinion" lol

[some conservationists have criticized the report's results, saying it could be "misleading."
"That's a fairly silly kind of number to report,"said Stuart Pimm, the Doris Duke Chair of Conservation Ecology at Duke University, referring to the overall 58% decline in wildlife populations."It mixes what's going on in the ocean with what's going on in the land. It mixes studies of bird populations in Europe with mammal populations in Africa. It has very few data points in South America."]
All I did was relay information, not make absurd claims based on my imagination like you.

I literally mentioned that in the thread....

There is skepticism, but that doesn't mean it is shared by the majority. Nor is the skepticism denouncing that there is a problem, but merely disputing how much of an impact there is.

Maybe if you actually read the quote in its entirety, then you'd realize that you brought nothing to the table.

So again, bring some actual substance to the argument.
 

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All I did was relay information, not make absurd claims based on my imagination like you.

I literally mentioned that in the thread....

There is skepticism, but that doesn't mean it is shared by the majority. Nor is the skepticism denouncing that there is a problem, but merely disputing how much of an impact there is.

Maybe if you actually read the quote in its entirety, then you'd realize that you brought nothing to the table.

So again, bring some actual substance to the argument.
lmfao. relaying obviously bias BS is the same Fing thing regardless if your intentions were pure. factcheck bruv, fact check

"brought nothing to the table"

lmfao, didn't need to. that countered the 58% (1970quote) which drops the main base/foundation of your other points.
 
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Is that your ace? Call something bias and then that's that? Anything else or are we done here?
lmfao. I played my ace two turns ago.

[some conservationists have criticized the report's results, saying it could be "misleading."
"That's a fairly silly kind of number to report,"said Stuart Pimm, the Doris Duke Chair of Conservation Ecology at Duke University, referring to the overall 58% decline in wildlife populations."It mixes what's going on in the ocean with what's going on in the land. It mixes studies of bird populations in Europe with mammal populations in Africa. It has very few data points in South America."]


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