18-Year Old Girl Jailed A Year for stupid stunt

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Re: The Islamization of the UK - 18-Year Old Girl Jailed A Year

If she'd do this in France on a synagogue, it could have been 3 or even 20 years to jail + 45 000 euros.
 
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Re: The Islamization of the UK - 18-Year Old Girl Jailed A Year

I would have loved to see what they would have done if it was a muslim hanging a piece of meat on a church's door
Church's Chicken already got that covered.


Seriously though, I don't know why the meat itself would be offensive to a christian, unless there's something I'm missing in the bible. I get your point though :p. Do something offensive to the westboro baptistss church and watch them go batshit insane. The typical christian gives no ****s about what a majorit of their religion, whereas westboro baptists doesn't seem to want to allow for other "possible meanings".

To put your point in a different light, I wonder what the reaction of the public (I emphasize because I always get some person telling me what they would do when I'm talking about general behavior) would be if members of westboro was the ones who did this to the muslim's church. Would the public be saying how wrong it is then? Stigmas can make for unfair "I told you so's", I said unfair when I meant to use the word "_?*"_5", but because I'm on my phone not even going to try and change that shit. Note: that word is "invalid", lol damn phone.

Anyways, common behavior, or common occurences gets unfairly reserved for those with the stigma. Granted, the reason they have the stigma may be valid.

Also, I understand that people may be aligning this topic with the idea that muslims are gaining too much power in the UK, not entirely about if the people in this case is charged justly or not.
 

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Re: The Islamization of the UK - 18-Year Old Girl Jailed A Year

By "would the public be saying how wrong it is then", I mean if westboro baptist members were charged with the same jail time.
 

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Re: The Islamization of the UK - 18-Year Old Girl Jailed A Year

9:30 The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?

9:31 They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah , and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.

9:32 They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.

9:33 It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although they who associate others with Allah dislike it.

A verbal criticism of Islam is no different than raising a sword against Islam.

The punishment for refusing to abide by Islam is death. Nothing but Islam is to have authority.

There are useful idiots who will tell you that there is "another way" for this to be interpreted or who will insist that "just as harsh of things would be done against us." Knowingly or unknowingly, they aid in the conquest of this world.

Luke 4:5-8: The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. So if you worship me, it will all be yours." Jesus answered, "It is written: `Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.' "

While, no doubt, there have been atrocities committed in the name of Christ - the distinction between the two religions can be summed up, right there.

Imbued within Islam is the command for conquest.

9:98 O you who have believed, what is [the matter] with you that, when you are told to go forth in the cause of Allah , you adhere heavily to the earth? Are you satisfied with the life of this world rather than the Hereafter? But what is the enjoyment of worldly life compared to the Hereafter except a [very] little.

9:39 If you do not go forth, He will punish you with a painful punishment and will replace you with another people, and you will not harm Him at all. And Allah is over all things competent.

9:41 Go forth, whether light or heavy, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the cause of Allah . That is better for you, if you only knew.

9:73 O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.

9:74 They swear by Allah that they did not say [anything against the Prophet] while they had said the word of disbelief and disbelieved after their [pretense of] Islam and planned that which they were not to attain. And they were not resentful except [for the fact] that Allah and His Messenger had enriched them of His bounty. So if they repent, it is better for them; but if they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful punishment in this world and the Hereafter. And there will not be for them on earth any protector or helper.

As you can see, it's something of a running theme to do precisely what the prophet of the Christians indicated was the work of Satan.

Does that mean all Muslims are evil? No. But Evil absolutely loves those with big hearts and naive minds. They are useful idiots who refuse to believe that evil truly exists in an institutional form. To them - evil is this abstract concept that relies on misunderstandings or deranged individuals.

Now - Islam is not without culture or concern for its tools. Surat 9 condemns those who do not honestly distribute the spoils of war and says that those funds must go toward the poor and needy - but what must be kept in mind is that this is not out of goodness. This is to preserve the system. Islam has long relied upon the poor of a region to provide the manpower for a revolution. Muslims come in and begin striking down 'polytheists' to distribute money amongst the poor or the struggling. This makes a huge impression on those classes and causes a surge in recruitment.

Islam teaches that the problem is everyone else. It is because they do not live according to Islam that there are problems both within Islam and outside of Islam. Once the world has been subjugated to the will of Allah - things will be better and peaceful.

This is an appealing message to those who often find themselves among the poor. "The reason you aren't poor is because someone else is stealing it from you." Which, in some societies - this does have a grain of truth to it (or, at the very least, the laws have suppressed the ability of people to grow their own wealth independently).

But it must be called what it is. It is an affront to the notion of free will that, within a theological context, was given to us by our creator and we were allowed to disobey. While it's often said that our punishment was mortality - the material fact remains that we were allowed to live and multiply even after 'our' sin. Our free will was not destroyed 'for our own good' or 'for the glory of god.'

Surat 9 was the last complete revelation from Mohammed. It is to be seen as the most clear interpretation of Allah's wisdom and is essentially a set of standing orders to wage war upon the world until all are under Islam.

I don't plan on allowing Islam to govern my life, and I do not plan on leaving the world in a state where my children would have to worry about it.
 
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Re: The Islamization of the UK - 18-Year Old Girl Jailed A Year

Irrelevant. Both the girl and man deserved what they got. It's a case of deliberate provocation. Live and let live. Such actions to hurt religious feelings and beliefs of people only strengthen the extremists.
 
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Re: The Islamization of the UK - 18-Year Old Girl Jailed A Year

-_- lucky they weren't in the middle east. They would be stoned to death.

Them going to jail is pure bs
Agree, they shouldn't go to jail for that it's not like they are actually hurting anyone physically. Just some "feelings" were hurt.

and not only will they get stoned,but they be buried in the ground and the a group guys would be throwing huge rocks at their heads while laughing. Saw a video of them doing that.....sickening I say.
 

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Re: The Islamization of the UK - 18-Year Old Girl Jailed A Year

Agree, they shouldn't go to jail for that it's not like they are actually hurting anyone physically. Just some "feelings" were hurt.

and not only will they get stoned,but they be buried in the ground and the a group guys would be throwing huge rocks at their heads while laughing. Saw a video of them doing that.....sickening I say.
Sarcastic much? .
 

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Re: The Islamization of the UK - 18-Year Old Girl Jailed A Year

Agree, they shouldn't go to jail for that it's not like they are actually hurting anyone physically. Just some "feelings" were hurt.

and not only will they get stoned,but they be buried in the ground and the a group guys would be throwing huge rocks at their heads while laughing. Saw a video of them doing that.....sickening I say.
The bs is high in this post.
 

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Re: The Islamization of the UK - 18-Year Old Girl Jailed A Year

If she'd do this in France on a synagogue, it could have been 3 or even 20 years to jail + 45 000 euros.
France is very tight when it comes to all religions.

My old French teacher wasn't even allowed to go in a Catholic church unless she decided to convert from Protestantism to Catholicism.
 

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Meanwhile .... Today In Pakistan A Christian couple was burned alive for allegedly insulting the Koran, and funnily enough its not an act of religious zeal but rather a a vile person using religious fanaticism to settle monetary disputes.



Sigh .... And today was Maharam, a day of significance in Islam.

Sadly I would most likely be pointed out how this is not a teaching of Islam ... I wonder how many of them would be preaching to those murderers that they are not being true Muslims.
 
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This wasn't a joke but a race motivated vandalism and hate crime. Personally I think they deserve jail time, might put there attitude in check, besides they wont serve anywhere near that amount of time.
 

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Meanwhile .... Today In Pakistan A Christian couple was burned alive for allegedly insulting the Koran, and funnily enough its not an act of religious zeal but rather a a vile person using religious fanaticism to settle monetary disputes.



Sigh .... And today was Maharam, a day of significance in Islam.

Sadly I would most likely be pointed out how this is not a teaching of Islam ... I wonder how many of them would be preaching to those murderers that they are not being true Muslims.
Pakistan is not one of the original Islamic laws. Countries like Saudi Arabia would prison them instead of a violent punishment.

I don't plan on allowing Islam to govern my life, and I do not plan on leaving the world in a state where my children would have to worry about it.
It's okay. Islam won't have complete control over your life, if you don't want to convert.
 

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They should go to jail. You only hear about this things in a white mans country, back home if you try this the children would most likely be thoroughly beaten or even stripped. Next time don't disgrace someones religion. Im a Christan but this pisses me of.
 

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thou shalt not provoke/hurt religious sentiments.
Laws are strict because many reasons..one you should not do it other when it is done mostly organized communities start rioting and politicians loose their vote share for not being nice to them.
As much as someone hurts religious sentiments of one community by such stunts that community itself provokes the locals by living there. Christians and Muslims in Russia do the same stunts giving beef cans to Hindu priests.
 

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Pakistan is not one of the original Islamic laws. Countries like Saudi Arabia would prison them instead of a violent punishment.
I think the 'Original' Islamic Law for Blasphemy is: "execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter, Except for those who return repenting before you apprehend them." (Qur'an, sura 5 (Al-Ma'ida), ayah 33-34) ... a heavy punishment. Not to mention I linked the news to showcase how religious sentiments are used in mob 'justice', not how Laws are formulated or implemented.
 

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I think the 'Original' Islamic Law for Blasphemy is: "execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter, Except for those who return repenting before you apprehend them." (Qur'an, sura 5 (Al-Ma'ida), ayah 33-34) ... a heavy punishment. Not to mention I linked the news to showcase how religious sentiments are used in mob 'justice', not how Laws are formulated or implemented.
Damn you are so clever, you know the Quran so well. Oh wait no.

5:33 talk about those who wage war against muslims.

 
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