15 Hashirama clones > Nagato (read)

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now i'll explain how 15 of hashiramas mokuton bunshins will beat nagato.

1. the mokuton ubnshins are very tough and very capable for fight, they cant be killed with just a hit and can take similar damage as a human body.



they cant be killed by someting lile shinra tensei or something else since a hit dont kill them.

the clones can survive chibaku tensei since they can merge with the surroundings. look at my link again.

It has more endurance than the normal shadow clones and doesn't disappear when hit by the enemies' attacks. Moreover, since it has the ability to merge with plants and trees, it is also great for reconnaissance missions.

and since hashirama is using the mokuton and can cover the landscape they can merge with all the trees and plants and survive so from being crushed. logical?

also, bunshins doesnt have a soul, so soul removal doesnt work.

the clones use all of the orginals abilities.

means: taijutsu, ninjutsu (such as the mokuton), genjutsu (bringer of darkness) and healing ability above that the clone doesnt disappear when being hit.

and there are 15 clones.

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Ok, so if they merge with the trees and get caught by Chibaku Tensei, how are they going to escape from CT if the outlayers are filled by mountain sized rocks? They can merge with the trees but they'd be stuck in the giant rock.

Anyway, they could be destroyed by a Chou Shinra Tensei.
 

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A single clone would be enough.

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if you think logical, the clones are using all of the users techniques and can take similar damage. a clone would actually own most shinobi lol.

What if you hit the user?
you should kill the user so the clones would disappear. why should the clones disappear if you hit the user. and hashirama can hide himself. he can also merge with his trees, nagato wouldnt find him, i mean he covers the whole area with trees and hides in them, no one could find them.

and nagato would have to take on 15 clones with the ability of hashirama which can take damage like a human. even regeneration ability is a part of hashiramas strength he can use thru the clones. and shinra tensei should help? hahaha

and even if nagato manages to defeat them, hashirama can creat new or fight with his power as well.

Clones > nagato as simply as that.
 

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Ok, so if they merge with the trees and get caught by Chibaku Tensei, how are they going to escape from CT if the outlayers are filled by mountain sized rocks? They can merge with the trees but they'd be stuck in the giant rock.

Anyway, they could be destroyed by a Chou Shinra Tensei.
Yes, but they will anyways be in safe there since merged with the trees. And Nagato would be the only one who will constantly feeding the core with Chakra, so it remains upright. And I'm not sure whether a Chou Shinra Tensei would kill them, since their bodies are similarly resistant like normal humans. Above, they can use the Mokuton as a defense and offense, too.
 

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Yes, but they will anyways be in safe there since merged with the trees. And Nagato would be the only one who will constantly feeding the core with Chakra, so it remains upright. And I'm not sure whether a Chou Shinra Tensei would kill them, since their bodies are similarly resistant like normal humans. Above, they can use the Mokuton as a defense and offense, too.
Hmm, but if they are imprisoned inside Chibaku Tensei then they've simply been defeated. Infact, I'm pretty sure the wood/trees would be crushed by the weight of the rocks ontop :\

A Chou Shinra Tensei, which flattened Konoha? I find it unlikely that they'd be able to survive such a blast.
 

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The trees they merge with would still be crushed along with them by the chibaku tensei.
I don't believe that Chibaku Tensei would crush a forest, consisting out of tendrils with a diameter of several meters. After all Chibaku Tensei is consisting out of huge rocks which have not being crushed.
 
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first off, any wikia is the worst place to try to get any real, 100% straight facts.
second, its not just nagato but his summons as well that they'd have to deal with..
and even if they are a bit stronger, it doesn't mean they'll survive every hit they take.

i think you're basing this more on when madara said this....

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but i think even he underestimates himself now because he didn't have the rinnegan and its abilities the last time they fought..
 

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I don't believe that Chibaku Tensei would crush a forest, consisting out of tendrils with a diameter of several meters. After all Chibaku Tensei is consisting out of huge rocks which have not being crushed.
Several mountains worth of rock > forest.
 

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Hmm, but if they are imprisoned inside Chibaku Tensei then they've simply been defeated. Infact, I'm pretty sure the wood/trees would be crushed by the weight of the rocks ontop :\

A Chou Shinra Tensei, which flattened Konoha? I find it unlikely that they'd be able to survive such a blast.
tsunade survived chou shinra tensei without katsuyu or using her seal.
 
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