13 y/o Kakashi, 13 y/o Itachi & Kimimaro Kaguya vs. Kakuzu & Hidan

[VisionOfDisorder]

Hatake Kakashi (Age 13):
>Obito's Sharingan
>Raikiri

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Uchiha Itachi (Age 13):
>3-Tomoe sharingan
>Mangekyou Sharingan
>Advanced Katon
>Unrivaled shuriken tech.

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Kaguya Kimimaro:
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(Healthy)

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vs.

Kakuzu:
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Hidan:
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[Joki]

Kakuzu tears them apart. Plus I'm not so sure why Kimimaro's involved..lol

 

[Stark]

All they need is Itachi and Kimimaro tbh.

 

[VisionOfDisorder]

Kakuzu tears them apart. Plus I'm not so sure why Kimimaro's involved..lol

Because it's a hypothetical vs. thread? lol why NOT Kimimaro? Kaguya are people too..

All they need is Itachi and Kimimaro tbh.

Really? ehh I really don't see anyone taking Kakuzu 1v1 and none of them would finish Hidan quickly enough to make it a 2v1. Ideally I say Kimimaro is capable of stalemating with Hidan while Itachi and Kakashi use their sharingan in unison to get the drop on Kakuzu in some way.

 

[Takos]

That's tough. But considering 13-year old Kakashi is mid to high jonin level, Itachi's high jonin level and healthy Kimimaro is also mid to high jonin...
...I'd give it to Kakuzu and Hidan. Kakuzu is kage level and Hidan is immortal. That's enough to take three jonin level ninja, even high jonin.


Besides, you gave Kakashi a Raikiri even though he had only Chidori back then.

 

[VisionOfDisorder]

That's tough. But considering 13-year old Kakashi is mid to high jonin level, Itachi's high jonin level and healthy Kimimaro is also mid to high jonin...
...I'd give it to Kakuzu and Hidan. Kakuzu is kage level and Hidan is immortal. That's enough to take three jonin level ninja, even high jonin.


Besides, you gave Kakashi a Raikiri even though he had only Chidori back then.

This is a good point but do you think Chidori would fail to pierce Kakuzu's hearts like Raikiri? andout of curiosity, do you think Hidan would be able to get blood from Kimimaro using bone armor?

 

[Icelerate]

That's tough. But considering 13-year old Kakashi is mid to high jonin level, Itachi's high jonin level and healthy Kimimaro is also mid to high jonin...

If 13 year old Kakashi is mid to high jounin level, I wonder what part 1 Kakashi is? Face it, kid Kakashi is very low jounin at best and the only jounin I see him defeating is Ebisu but with extreme difficuty.

@OP: Hidan can beat Kakashi pretty easily while Kakuzu kills Itachi with his fire and wind heart. The lightning heart should kill Kimimaro. All in all the immortal duo win this low difficulty.

Remember that Kakuzu and Hidan fought against Shikamaru, part 2 Kakashi, Naruto and Yamato which are collectively stronger than the team you just put up.

What knowledge do they have? Not that is important since either way, immortal duo stomps.

 

[Joki]

Because it's a hypothetical vs. thread? lol why NOT Kimimaro? Kaguya are people too..



Really? ehh I really don't see anyone taking Kakuzu 1v1 and none of them would finish Hidan quickly enough to make it a 2v1. Ideally I say Kimimaro is capable of stalemating with Hidan while Itachi and Kakashi use their sharingan in unison to get the drop on Kakuzu in some way.

Well I mean he makes virtually no difference so I didn't see the point. Add 20 Kimimaro's and maybe it will make Kakuzu bat an eye to them but other than that not really, Kakashi and Itachi are way out of his league.

 

[Bogard]

If 13 year old Kakashi is mid to high jounin level, I wonder what part 1 Kakashi is? Face it, kid Kakashi is very low jounin at best and the only jounin I see him defeating is Ebisu but with extreme difficuty.

You forget that kid Kakashi defeated a fast and skilled jounin level from Iwagakure alone and seemingly without too much difficulties, so saying he beats Ebisu with extreme difficulty is really funny. He was jounin level even back then. Minato himself was impressed by Kakashi even as a kid. Sure he improved with the time, but he was already strong back then, at least it's what the manga tries to say

 

[Icelerate]

You forget that kid Kakashi defeated a fast and skilled jounin level from Iwagakure alone and seemingly without too much difficulties, so saying he beats Ebisu with extreme difficulty is really funny. He was jounin level even back then. Minato himself was impressed by Kakashi even as a kid. Sure he improved with the time, but he was already strong back then, at least it's what the manga tries to say

Tell me more about the skilled jounin that Kakashi beat since it can be someone like Ebisu.......
Sure Minato was impressed by Kakashi, likewise Kakashi was impressed by Sasuke. What goes around comes around. I don't see why you guys think kid Kakashi is unstoppable. I don't even know if he can beat part 1 Neji or part 1 Temari let alone high level ninjas.

 

[silmarill]

If Itach posesses amterasu and tsukuyomi they would win

 

[Bogard]

Tell me more about the skilled jounin that Kakashi beat since it can be someone like Ebisu.......
Sure Minato was impressed by Kakashi, likewise Kakashi was impressed by Sasuke. What goes around comes around. I don't see why you guys think kid Kakashi is unstoppable. I don't even know if he can beat part 1 Neji or part 1 Temari let alone high level ninjas.

They were in a war where you only send strong ninjas, and Minato left Kakashi as the leader of the group to destroy a bridge. He didn't let him as a leader cuz he was fool, he knew Kakashi was skilled and strong enough for the role.

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a jounin level ninja from Iwagakure, and if you look at his link on the section "ability", you'll notice it's said that he excelled in all areas shinobi abilities: ninjutsu, taijutsu and genjutsu and was a highly influential and powerful figure in Iwagakure. So that jounin was no fodder like you seem to think. Because there was no development of ninjas in kakashi gaiden, people seems to think that every ninja is fodder, but this way of thinking is wrong. I just make you remember it was in a war, where you send only the strongest ninjas

Never said he was unstoppable or something(don't know where you've seen it in my post), but that he was already strong even back then. Konoha wasn't fool to make him as a jounin even at that young age, and it's not part1 Neji or other you talk about that i see beating him even back then. I think you underrate Kid Kakashi because of the lack of development

 

[pantelis2006]

I believe Itachi is the key. I think his Susanno would give kids the win, with casualties. Young Kakashi and young Kimimaro dont stand a chance against Kakuzu. Kids win, Kakashi and Kimimaro fall, though.

 

[Bogard]

I believe Itachi is the key. I think his Susanno would give kids the win, with casualties. Young Kakashi and young Kimimaro dont stand a chance against Kakuzu. Kids win, Kakashi and Kimimaro fall.

I doubt Itachi already had Susanoo at that time judging by his surprise when he saw that Sasuke was able to use this eye ability. It means that he had a hard time to awake it

 

[pantelis2006]

I doubt Itachi already had Susanoo at that time judging by his surprise when he saw that Sasuke was able to use this eye ability. It means that he had a hard time to awake it

Maybe you are right. I saw MS in Itachi's abilities, so I presumed Susanno awakened. Without Itachi's Sussano, they lose...amaterasu is not enough.

 

[VisionOfDisorder]

Well I mean he makes virtually no difference so I didn't see the point. Add 20 Kimimaro's and maybe it will make Kakuzu bat an eye to them but other than that not really, Kakashi and Itachi are way out of his league.

Daamn do you dislike Kimimaro in some intense way lol? I mean I'm not saying he's going to solo an akatsuki member but Kimimaro is easily skilled enough to benefit this team, he certainly falls somewhere within Jounin level and his abilities in particular could make a big difference against Zombie bros. He is in the top 5 for his age group in part 1.

 

[Joki]

Daamn do you dislike Kimimaro in some intense way lol? I mean I'm not saying he's going to solo an akatsuki member but Kimimaro is easily skilled enough to benefit this team, he certainly falls somewhere within Jounin level and his abilities in particular could make a big difference against Zombie bros. He is in the top 5 for his age group in part 1.

Being in top 5 for his part 1 age group of 13 year olds is impressive? Not against Kakuzu, he has literally no way to come close to damaging him or becoming useful in any way, I don't hate him I just think he's overrated by far, I guess your posts proves it if you think he can "make a big difference" and benefit his team in any way.

 

[Blunt]

Kid's would win, also Amaterasu IS enough considering they can't be extinguished but by the user itself.
Itachi is the key player, Kakashi and Kimmomaro are a big benefit with mid range/short range attacks while Itachi focuses on them with Amaterasu, which effectively.. makes them win.

 

[VisionOfDisorder]

Being in top 5 for his part 1 age group of 13 year olds is impressive? Not against Kakuzu, he has literally no way to come close to damaging him or becoming useful in any way, I don't hate him I just think he's overrated by far, I guess your posts proves it if you think he can "make a big difference" and benefit his team in any way.

You are saying that my post proves Kimimaro being overrated? Here if this helps, humor me and instead of lumping Kimi together with the sound 4 and Konoha 11 in the SRA, remember that he was Orochimaru's prime project at the time, this is a shinobi who Orochimaru wanted in the same way that he wanted Sasuke (Sound 4 would not have been considered to use as a new vessel.) We have also never seen him pit against a balanced opponent. We have seen him in a taijutsu-only matchup with rock lee, and then in a ranged-only matchup with Gaara. The fact that we have never seen him acctually defeated should say something too. Kimimaro was out of any of the kids' league. The databook scores him barely lower than an Akatsuki member as it is. Idk if you care about the databook, I know to take what it says with a grain of salt, but here:

Hidan: (Nin- 5) (Tai- 4.5) (Gen- 3) // (Intel- 3) (Str- 4) (Spd- 3.5) (Stam- 5) (H.S.- 3.5) ((TOTAL: 31.5))

Kakuzu: (Nin- 5) (Tai- 4) (Gen- 3) // (Intel- 4.5) (Str- 4) (Spd- 4) (Stam- 4.5) (H.S.- 3.5) ((TOTAL: 32.5))

Kimimaro: (Nin- 4) (Tai- 5) (Gen- 3) // (Intel- 3.5) (Str- 3) (Spd- 4.5) (Stam- 4.5) (H.S.- 3.5) ((TOTAL: 30.5))

So like I said, think what you will about the data book but are you really going to claim that Kimimaro isn't in a position to help out here when his stats put him almost even with Hidan on his own. Once again, I'm not saying Kimi will solo either of them, but he isn't far off.

CHOUJI is someone who was REALLY no help against Zombie bros, that's why his Databook score at the same time was only 20.5..

EDIT -- Your ava right now is pretty sick

 

[Joki]

You are saying that my post proves Kimimaro being overrated? Here if this helps, humor me and instead of lumping Kimi together with the sound 4 and Konoha 11 in the SRA, remember that he was Orochimaru's prime project at the time, this is a shinobi who Orochimaru wanted in the same way that he wanted Sasuke (Sound 4 would not have been considered to use as a new vessel.) We have also never seen him pit against a balanced opponent. We have seen him in a taijutsu-only matchup with rock lee, and then in a ranged-only matchup with Gaara. The fact that we have never seen him acctually defeated should say something too. Kimimaro was out of any of the kids' league. The databook scores him barely lower than an Akatsuki member as it is. Idk if you care about the databook, I know to take what it says with a grain of salt, but here:

Hidan: (Nin- 5) (Tai- 4.5) (Gen- 3) // (Intel- 3) (Str- 4) (Spd- 3.5) (Stam- 5) (H.S.- 3.5) ((TOTAL: 31.5))

Kakuzu: (Nin- 5) (Tai- 4) (Gen- 3) // (Intel- 4.5) (Str- 4) (Spd- 4) (Stam- 4.5) (H.S.- 3.5) ((TOTAL: 32.5))

Kimimaro: (Nin- 4) (Tai- 5) (Gen- 3) // (Intel- 3.5) (Str- 3) (Spd- 4.5) (Stam- 4.5) (H.S.- 3.5) ((TOTAL: 30.5))

So like I said, think what you will about the data book but are you really going to claim that Kimimaro isn't in a position to help out here when his stats put him almost even with Hidan on his own. Once again, I'm not saying Kimi will solo either of them, but he isn't far off.

CHOUJI is someone who was REALLY no help against Zombie bros, that's why his Databook score at the same time was only 20.5..

EDIT -- Your ava right now is pretty sick

It was also in part 1, which was hit by power inflation massively. Remember Hashirama who's now comparable to RS in that his power was unbelievable, and his power was so ridiculously great that no ninja could match his power, he made Madara his bitch and beat Perfect Susano'o and the 5 kages were nothing before him? Well yeah, in Part 1 he was doing mediocre jutsu that most chunin could counter and the ANBU were crapping their pants at how high level a kage fight is.

The DB stats were also from part 1, it surprises me how people don't realize the DB aren't all accurate and are a secondary source for information that Kishi wrote. If you didn't take them in terms of power levels and peers then some genin part 1 characters have skills higher than what Akatsuki specialize in which is ridiculous. But either way you need more to quantify his strength, everything we've seen from him gets crapped on by Kakuzu and some of the genin could have beaten him.

Because Choji was utterly useless that means 20 is the highest score until people start being useful? I don't think it works like that, besides Choji actually is basically completely worthless.

Oh yeah and thanks lolol