12 Reasons why Itachi is the "most intelligent" ninja. [Debate]

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pretty good post BTW this is my 100th Post yay!!!!!
 

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This thread fails in so many ways it's not even funny, smh. Half of the pages you posted dont even reflect intelligence, but rather simple usage of techniques granted to him through sharingan. There has been no match where Itachi has shown any special intelligence, he simply learned Uchiha history/abilites and utilized them, nothing more nothing less.

The moments in which he tried to some intelligence (if that's what you wanna call it) was his way of planning ahead. However, each time he tried to have any significant effect he FAILED miserably.

-against Kabuto he simple used a forbidden jutsu to end Edo, which shows no feat of intelligence just intel and this failed as all (major) Edo were already sealed -_-

-against Orochimaru both were standing face-to-face and he used genjutsu, how simple was that, like really. Now, I'll give credit for being about to refrain him, but most of the credit is the sharingan itself. Actually when thinking about it, for him to have been so superior in genjutsu Orochimaru was still able to move and attempt to break it regardless. At the end his attempt to rid Orochimaru FAILED

-against Nagato, i dont even need to say he thought of the most common sense tactics, while Nagato was a controlled dead brain, next to two other dummies (Naruto and Bee). In the situation i would hope he would look smart.

-any attempt of trying to save/prevent/influnce Sasuke failed more than once, the shyt isnt even funny.

-he wasn't able to do anything significant in stopping Tobi, or the capturing of Naruto that required any base of intelligence.

Itachi is a little above average in the intelligence departemnt, but people fail to even really consider what he has actually done the shows any special feat of intelligence. Mastering the use of genjutsu is no small feat, but so have others.

It's simple knowing you shyt and using it to your advantage, in this case the Sharingan and Uchiha history.
 
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The best theory i ever see in this web
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Minato said Madara couldn't possibly be alive, but guess what? Madara was kickin'.

Oh, and Minato didn't even recognize his own 14 year old student.

So let's not hype him with "lol Minato didn't think Obito was Madara."

Omfg you idiot!! Why would the thought that Obito was the supervillain that stood before him ever cross his mind? It had been a while since his "death" and the fact that Obito was his student and he knew the person Obito was is exactly the reason why he didnt recognize him PLUS he was wearing a mask and he was taller!!!! Dumb people these days
 

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LOL what kind of argument is this?

How about saying that Minato is most intelligent because he created a jutsu after observing a TBB.

Ninjas that did not make a jutsu after an observation of a TBB: Itachi, Goku, your momma.

None of your clauses are legit reasons in proving his superior intellect.
 

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Itachi is a little above average in the intelligence departemnt

Kevin, you're way too blazed right now.

Kakashi has out smarted Itachi before pulling Bushin Fients off on him.

As stated before, Itachi was outnumbered. Pulling a bunshin feint off on an outnumbered (and otherwise handicapped) individual is not an intellectual feat in the slightest, let alone demonstrating any semblance of mental superiority.

Kakashi was compared to Shikkamaru in intelligence & we know Shikkamaru's father is smarter than him. So that's 3 characters more intelligent than Itachi.

What has Shikamaru or Shikaku accomplished? Kakashi had a 4.5 intelligence in DB1, proving that he's not as naturally intelligent as Itachi.
 

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Such a thread can be created about Naruto, Sasuke, Minato or Madara or Hiruzen!

For eg -

1. Minato become unsurpassable at 25-26.
2. Hiruzen become Highest of all Kages at 25[Prime]
3. Naruto has become the strongest 16 yr old Period!!
4. Sasuke the youngest to achieve the EMS.
5. Obito become high Kage at 14 and the greatest at 29.
6. Kakashi easily got past Kage level and Sannin at 29 [ ]

I don't see Itachi surpassing above.

It doesn't matter what you were when you were a kid! Negi was supposedly the strongest Genin ever, but what now the biggest failure Naruto is the 2nd strongest Ninja alive
 

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Minato said Madara couldn't possibly be alive, but guess what? Madara was kickin'.

Oh, and Minato didn't even recognize his own 14 year old student.

So let's not hype him with "lol Minato didn't think Obito was Madara."

wait a minute dude dn't u condem minato even kakashi failed in recognising obito and again itachi thougt he understood tobi and activated sasuke's eyes to use amaterasu against tobi, and what tobi said was itachi doesn't know a single thin about him. But minato was able to decipher kamui in 2 minutes and minato was a hokage at quite a young age so, like it or hate it minato is smarter than itachi.. Obito is smarter than itachi.. If shikamaru was uchiha he would have achieved more than itachi....
 

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You just proposed feats that Itachi had done, but did not go into or consider any feats that others had completed and Itachi hadn't.
 

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itachi is a cool kid

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itachi is the smartest:almost killed obito in his death
stopped CT
Stopped EDO
pawned oro who was a hokage candidate at a young age
made these GENIUSES look dumb...oro, kakashi, kabuto
 

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Come back when itachi created his own jutsu outta nothing. Ex: kakashi created chidori at 13? Minato created rasengan, rds, flying thunder god.
Come back wen itachi uses something that wasnt something others had already done, o ya can't.
 

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This thread fails in so many ways it's not even funny, smh. Half of the pages you posted dont even reflect intelligence, but rather simple usage of techniques granted to him through sharingan. There has been no match where Itachi has shown any special intelligence, he simply learned Uchiha history/abilites and utilized them, nothing more nothing less.

The moments in which he tried to some intelligence (if that's what you wanna call it) was his way of planning ahead. However, each time he tried to have any significant effect he FAILED miserably.

-against Kabuto he simple used a forbidden jutsu to end Edo, which shows no feat of intelligence just intel and this failed as all (major) Edo were already sealed -_-

-against Orochimaru both were standing face-to-face and he used genjutsu, how simple was that, like really. Now, I'll give credit for being about to refrain him, but most of the credit is the sharingan itself. Actually when thinking about it, for him to have been so superior in genjutsu Orochimaru was still able to move and attempt to break it regardless. At the end his attempt to rid Orochimaru FAILED

-against Nagato, i dont even need to say he thought of the most common sense tactics, while Nagato was a controlled dead brain, next to two other dummies (Naruto and Bee). In the situation i would hope he would look smart.

-any attempt of trying to save/prevent/influnce Sasuke failed more than once, the shyt isnt even funny.

-he wasn't able to do anything significant in stopping Tobi, or the capturing of Naruto that required any base of intelligence.

Itachi is a little above average in the intelligence departemnt, but people fail to even really consider what he has actually done the shows any special feat of intelligence. Mastering the use of genjutsu is no small feat, but so have others.

It's simple knowing you shyt and using it to your advantage, in this case the Sharingan and Uchiha history.

basically this
 

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Itachi is a intelligent shinobi,if he'd not he wont be akatsuki members and wont seal orochimaru.
 
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What are you talking about? The scan I posted already confirmed that he still hates Konoha. It's just that his love for Itachi and his wishes has left him at a crossroads whereby he needs info from the ones who know everything in order to make a decision. When manipulated by Tobi, Sasuke just wasn't taking into account Itachi's wishes - it was just 100% destroy Konoha. Now Itachi has come into play and it's swayed things 50/50. I don't know how you've reached the conclusion that he no longer hates Konoha. He wants to learn everything and then make a final decision.

I've been watching your argument and your points are that of a rambling 5 year old. Itachi is without a doubt one of the most intelligent ninjas in the manga second only to Madara Uchiha period. Did he fail in his main goal yes but that does not serve as a discount to his intelligence by any means. There are many people who have superior intellect that fail in achieving their goals because of other countless variables that have nothing to do with how intelligent they are so stop using Itachi' failings as a dehype because it is not linear you mongrel.

And to add on to itachi's alleged fail he him self may have failed but the goal is still to be realized, Itachi just left the task to Naruto to change Sasuke and protect Konoha just like Minato didn't save the world but left it to naruto so shut up with you nonsense.

And now to your nonsensical rambles of how Obito who is not intelligent can manipulate Itachi? Ummm Obito not intelligent?? You are an idiot who thinks that intelligence is something that you are born with and for some reason is something that can't be honed and enhanced by crafting and experience. Who was Obito's mentors???? Minato and freakin Madara. Let's not even mention Minato since you seem to cream your pants when his name is uttered in this thread but if Madara trained and molded Obito you don't think Obito would have grown to be intelligent enough to delude Itachi???? Are you slow?? Do you wear a bib when you eat???

Now to your nonsense about how Itachi didn't suspect Obito lying about being Madara. Um just because it didnt show he didnt in the manga doesnt mean for certain that he didnt. If you are claiming that Itach never doubted obito being madara prove it with a scan. I'm not claiming Itach definitely doubted him so dont ask me to provide a scan as I dont make outrageous claims unless I can back it unlike you.

And your nonsense about sasuke being fueled by hatred?? Itach changed Sasuke after defeating Kabuto. Do you see Sasuke looking deranged and hellbent for revenge like a lunatic anymore. You say because of love for Itachi Sasuke is at a point where he has to make a decision on how to proceed. Someone who is debating whether he should act on his hatred or not is NOt SOMEONE WHO IS FUEL BY HATRED you ignoramus.

Please stop talking nonsense. Itachi's intelligence was noted by Kakashi in part 1 and 2, his academy accomplishments are not to be overlooked, his planning ahead to the point where he effects change even in death and as the walking dead is unrivaled. The fact that Kabuto who is intelligent in his own right claimed that Itachi is on another level when compared to the other edos also serves as testament to itachi's intellect. He found a way to defeat planetary devastation!! No one in the Manga has done that. The nine tails cloak at 6 tails couldn't even prevent being captured. Itachi defied the shared vision attribute with his kunai. No one had an intelligent counter to that accept for sage mode.

Itachi figured out a means to stop edo tensei and you say it's because no one had the opportunity???? Itachi was being controled by edo for more than half the war until he activated shishui's eye from his crow inside naruto. Where was Shikamaru, his Dad, Kakashi, all the intelligence groups? They had plenty of time to figure something to stop the edo but couldn't. Did they have the power to? Maybe maybe not I but don't say they didn't have the opportunity because they did. If your going to spew ramblings and criticisms out of that suck hole of yours make sure you choose your words carefully.

Do me a favor. Reread the entire manga from episode 1 to current without fapping. That way your vision won't be impaired and you will actually be on par with those that "Understand" the manga you twit.

I'm done :cool:
 
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