12 People that can beat Itachi

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Didn't you just say Muu mastered the jutsu as said on narutopedia? The shinobi Obito fought clearly didn't have mastery of the jutsu. Muu is said to be able to completely erase his chakra meaning the sharingan can NOT see him. What's so hard to comprehend about that? Is your brain malfunctioning or something?
What do you mean by the dude obito fought didnt maser the tech. It has nothing to do with mastery, it has everything to do with the sharigans abilities and from what we know a sharigan user has already been able to see this tehcnique.

Nuff said.
As for the brain malfunctioning jibe, its somewhat true. Ive been doing some hardcore revision xd
 

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Only because I'm bored lol Anyway, let me see......

1). Minato: We all know Minato is not an idiot, he was Hokage and it is still pretty debatable on who the more intelligent shinobi is between him and Itachi, they were both geniuses. With that said, Minato already knows a great deal about the Uchiha clan, and I don't think he would risk getting caught in any type of genjutsu, so he would be cautious about going into battle with him, maybe utilizing his FTG to hit blind spots, attacking from behind, the side, etc. avoiding direct eye contact, but that doesn't mean he still can't get caught because it's stated Itachi has more then one way to use it. Other then that, Minato also has a fairly strong defense, which is also less taxing. Anyway, my point is, I think Minato has a fair chance at winning against him.

2). Hashirama: I think Mokuton is a little underrated because we've seen it being used so much by Yamato, who said himself was nothing compared to the first. And we also forget that Mokuton has the ability to suppress chakra. With so much unknown about how he fights, it's hard to make an accurate decision, but by hype, I believe Hashi is more then enough to handle Itachi, he defeated Madara after all, which could also say something about his genjutsu defense. I don't think his feats during his Edo fight should really count as his full potential, so there really is no way of telling how fast he is. But like I said, by hype, he could win, but without much to go on, I can't really give an accurate answer.

3). Madara: I think Madara on both accounts can defeat Itachi, Current Madara for obvious reasons, plain EMS Madara definitely yes. Madara is one of the most powerful Uchiha in existence, in terms of raw and pure chakra, he can put much more effort into his jutsu then Itachi can: I don't think Itachi is making fire on that scale. Itachi is smart, but I just don't think he has the stamina or strength to take him out. Even with the sword and mirror, Itachi from what we know only uses Sasunoo in desperate situations, unlike Sasuke, and by that time his stamina could be on E. I give these to both the Madaras.

4). Hiruzen: I agree with you here, I don't think Hiruzen has what it takes to take him out, although I don't think genjutsu would be the reason because he was a gifted genjutsu user himself, not even in his prime.

5). Sasuke EMS: Ummm, we just don't know anything about his EMS yet, but I'm just going to say no, plus like you said, Itachi would be blind lol it's kind of impossible.

6). Tobi + 6 Paths: I'm going to say yes as well. This is basically due to the ambush and overwhelming tactic that they seem to portray when they fight someone as shown in the fight currently happening. Itachi wouldn't know where to begin.

7). Kisame: I'm not too sold on Kisame having a greater chance then most because he himself said he was inferior to Itachi. He may be able to nullify genjutsu, but it would be just like a tailed beast to it's host, it may be too late if it was Tsukiyomi. Kisame would have to be able to close some space between him and Itachi to be able to still chakra, although him stilling chakra from Sasunoo makes me wonder if it is possible for him to do that?? I think that this fight will go to Itachi basically because they know so much about each other, and Itachi would be able to utilize the information a lot better then Kisame would.

8). Muu: Yes, Muu did lose against a genjutsu user, so it also makes me believe that genjutsu is sort of his weakness, but then again the Mizukage's genjutsu was definitely in a class of it's own, there was no visual caster so no one was able to detect if it was being used, while Itachi's is pretty much straight forward. Also, becoming invisible makes him completely disappear, no trace of chakra or body, this would prove difficult for Itachi if he ever let him do it, and it seems as if Muu is the type to go into a battle in stealth mode. With that said, Itachi would result to using Sasunoo due to Dust release. I definitely think he has a chance to win though, so I say yes.

9). Naruto SM KM: SM definitely not, I agree on this one. All the ninjutsu and Rasengan spamming will come to a halt when faced with Sasunoo, and he will eventually run out of clones and lose. KM Naruto I believe maybe he could. Naruto has been using clones on the level of Kages, so yes, using clones as distractions, Naruto may be able to get the upperhand, but another thing is that Naruto is not too bright. Naruto could win, but I give this to Itachi more then Nauto.

10). 3rd Raikage: I agree, he is not winning against Itachi, he has no defense against genjutsu, enough said.

11). Tobirama: Likewise, we don't know anything about him besides the fact that he uses water jutsu, and he has some kind of S/T jutsu. But I'm not going to go any further into this because we just don't know.

12). Nagato: I think a healthy Nagato is more then enough to take out Itachi, he has a defense to just about everything Itachi has besides the Sword of Totsuka. I posted a theory a while back about genjutsu and the Rinnegan, but it didn't get too much attention :/ anyway, what is says was the Rinnegan has more insight then the Sharingan thus being a better Doujutsu, and the Sharingan can see through genjutsu using insight, get it??? more insight, less chances of getting caught in genjutsu. Anyway, as we seen, Nagato starts off pretty strong, as we know his techs are more of the destructive variety, so Itachi would have to go into defense mode pretty fast, bringing out Sasunoo and his weapons. Not to sure on any feats from a healthy Nagato, but he would have to do a lot of dodging, but maybe a CT can aid in that. With the 6pop, Itachi again doesn't have a chance, they are just too overwhelming, and Itachi doesn't have the stamina to face them all.
So overall, the only people I don't think has a good chance at beating Itachi are Sasuke, Naruto SM, Third Raikage, Kisame and Hiruzen. People I'm not so sure on due to lack of info are Tobirama, and Hashirama. The rest I think have fair chances at winning, not saying it would be easy, but they have a chance.

So this ends my long ass response lol Don't know if I hit all the points, but just let me know and I can elaborate a bit more if you'd like.
So for the most part you agree with most of what I said. The only people I said that I thought would lose and you didn't was Hashirama, and you put him in your not sure category.

Also Minato, but I said that the only way Itachi wins is if he gets Minato in a genjutsu just long enough to use Amaterasu or the Totsuka sword. That is the same way with Nagato. And yes the rinnegan has the possibility of seeinf through genjutsu, but even so they aren't immune to it at the outset, they have to see through it which takes time. Consider all the time Itachi had when Sasuke was trapped in his numerous genjutsus. He could have sealed him easily had he wanted to, he had plenty of time. Sasuke saw through those, but it took him some time. Breaking genjutsus isn't instant.

I want to reiterate that for the most part every high level ninja has a chance against every other high level ninja.
 

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What do you mean by the dude obito fought didnt maser the tech. It has nothing to do with mastery, it has everything to do with the sharigans abilities and from what we know a sharigan user has already been able to see this tehcnique.

Nuff said.
As for the brain malfunctioning jibe, its somewhat true. Ive been doing some hardcore revision xd
The sharingan's ability is to see chakra and Muu completely erases his chakra. It CANNOT SEE HIM. Why don't you seem to get this? There's also no proof that the jutsu the guy used is the same one Muu uses and don't give me that narutopedia crap because it's nothing but fan made.
 

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The sharingan's ability is to see chakra and Muu completely erases his chakra. Why don't you seem to get this? It CANNOT SEE HIM. There's also no proof that the jutsu the guy used is the same one Muu uses and don't give me that narutopedia crap because it's nothing but fan made.
With you we can never agree on something therefore its best to agree to disagree. As for the narutopedia link, most of what it says is credible. Although i will admit that the only thing it has made was saying tobi is madara but then again that fooled most people and tbh its still fooling some poeple.

Anyway i believe its the same technqiue, him having mastery over it doesnt mean alot. Maybe to regular sensory ninja's but before a doujutsu i doubt it
 

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With you we can never agree on something therefore its best to agree to disagree. As for the narutopedia link, most of what it says is credible. Although i will admit that the only thing it has made was saying tobi is madara but then again that fooled most people and tbh its still fooling some poeple.

Anyway i believe its the same technqiue, him having mastery over it doesnt mean alot. Maybe to regular sensory ninja's but before a doujutsu i doubt it
Sharingan sees chakra and Muu erases his chakra completely, which means it's impossible for the sharingan to spot him. It seems you just like to throw that fact out the window. Anyway it's pointless to keep arguing because clearly you're not going to see the light and change your mind.
 

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This is why i always put muu beating itachi on undecided, I really have no idea if sharingan can see through his invisibility...If it can't then he wins, if it can , itachi wins
 

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Sharingan sees chakra and Muu erases his chakra completely, which means it's impossible for the sharingan to spot him. It seems you just like to throw that fact out the window. Anyway it's pointless to keep arguing because clearly you're not going to see the light and change your mind.
Ive been convinced when i acknowledge that im wrong and in this instance i dont see it

This is why i always put muu beating itachi on undecided, I really have no idea if sharingan can see through his invisibility...If it can't then he wins, if it can , itachi wins
Its not an easy as that, muu died at the hands of the 2nd mizukage, who's genjutsu isnt on the same level as itachi's.

Clearly he didnt have a though time defeating muu, although i acknowledge the fact that, both died.
 

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Ive been convinced when i acknowledge that im wrong and in this instance i dont see it



Its not an easy as that, muu died at the hands of the 2nd mizukage, who's genjutsu isnt on the same level as itachi's.

Clearly he didnt have a though time defeating muu, although i acknowledge the fact that, both died.
Yea you just like to throw out the fact that sharingan sees chakra and Muu completely erases his chakra, which equates to it not being able to see him. Still whatever floats your boat my friend. xd
 

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So for the most part you agree with most of what I said. The only people I said that I thought would lose and you didn't was Hashirama, and you put him in your not sure category.

Also Minato, but I said that the only way Itachi wins is if he gets Minato in a genjutsu just long enough to use Amaterasu or the Totsuka sword. That is the same way with Nagato. And yes the rinnegan has the possibility of seeinf through genjutsu, but even so they aren't immune to it at the outset, they have to see through it which takes time. Consider all the time Itachi had when Sasuke was trapped in his numerous genjutsus. He could have sealed him easily had he wanted to, he had plenty of time. Sasuke saw through those, but it took him some time. Breaking genjutsus isn't instant.

I want to reiterate that for the most part every high level ninja has a chance against every other high level ninja.

Yea, for the most part lol I just think by the time I got to the end, I had forgotten what your original thoughts were lol So I just reposted who I thought would win and wouldn't win, and my idk's, and yea, I agree with you on your last reiteration.
 

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Yea you just like to throw out the fact that sharingan sees chakra and Muu completely erases his chakra, which equates to it not being able to see him. Still whatever floats your boat my friend. xd
Its the same tech that the other guy used. Him gaining mastery of it might help him get past sensory ninjas, but not people with doujutsu's. We have already seen this technique against a doujutsu and obito prevailed.

Anyway muu hasnt shown any feats at all since being revived which hints that he can go toe to toe with itachi.

If the camouflage technique is your basis for this fight, well the 2nd mizukage overcame it without a doujutsu and an inferior genjutsu. Clearly muu isnt as invisible as we thought.
 
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Its the same tech that the other guy used. Him gaining mastery of it might help him get past sensory ninjas, but not people with doujutsu's. We have already seen this technique against a doujutsu and obito prevailed.

Anyway muu hasnt shown any feats at all since being revived which hints that he can go toe to toe with itachi.

It the camouflage technique is your basis for this fight, well the 2nd mizukage overcame it without a doujutsu and an inferior genjutsu. Clearly muu isnt as invisible as we thought.
There's no proof of that other then a fan made wiki. What don't you get about doujutsu seeing chakra and that Muu completely erases his chakra? Like seriously what don't you get about that? Also now you're going to try and say something like its fact about a fight that we've never even seen? :| We don't know how the fight between Muu and the 2nd mizukage went other then they tied. Anyway I'm done and you can believe what you want.
 
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I think these people pose a great challenge to Itachi and can win a battle against him:
1) Minato
2) Hashirama Senju
3) Madara
4) Hiruzen Sarutobi
5) Sasuke (EMS-Susano-Amaterasu)
6) Tobi (Rinnegan - Six Paths)
7) Kisame
8) Muu
9) Naruto (KM and SM)
10) Third Raikage
11) Tobirama Senju
12) Yes, oh yes, the one and only, the infamous rival.. NAGATO

Please discuss, yes I may be wrong, but please explain why one of these shinobi has no (or almost none) chances of winning against Itachi, don't just be a fanboy. Thank you.

I left SO6P out of the list for obvious reasons.

Sasori is a likely candidate as well.
This ^_^. I agree
 

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There's no proof of that other then a fan made wiki. What don't you get about doujutsu seeing chakra and Muu completely erases his chakra? Like seriously what don't you get about that? Also now you're going to try and say something like its fact about a fight that we've never even seen? :| We don't know how the fight between Muu and the 2nd mizukage went.
As i said lets agree to disagree. As for the muu and the 2nd its been said that both killed each other
 

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As i said lets agree to disagree. As for the muu and the 2nd its been said that both killed each other
Yes I know they tied and that's all we know about it so trying to say something like it's fact about it is ridiculous. We have no idea how the 2nd overcame Muu's invisibility. Anyway like I said I'm done. Believe what you want.
 

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Yes I know they tied and that's all we know about it so trying to say something like it's fact about it is ridiculous. We have no idea how the 2nd overcame Muu's invisibility. Anyway like I said I'm done. Believe what you want.
They not only tied both died. You accusing me of making bs up just makes you look ridiculous, or do you dare me to upload a link?

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1) Minato Nope
2) Hashirama Senju yes
3) Madara Yes
4) Hiruzen Sarutobi nope
5) Sasuke (EMS-Susano-Amaterasu) yes
6) Tobi (Rinnegan - Six Paths) yes
7) Kisame nope
8) Muu possible
9) Naruto (KM and SM) yes
10) Third Raikage nope
11) Tobirama Senju idk what he can do
12) Sasori-- No....gets amaterasu'd and burns
13)Nagato - Nagato easily
Now let me ask you what makes you say no for Minato, fastest shinobi in naruto, very intelligent, high ninjutsu and taijutsu, greatest reflex in naruto, create very powerful jutsu might even have more up his sleeves, he was also known to be very skill in space-time jutsu, and we all know it's one of the hardest jutsu to beat (example Tobi), he has high knowledge and use of sealing jutsu explain. I'm no fanboy but this match is still undecided until we know full even half of Minato's strength.

No For Hiruzen who was known as the god of shinobi, who defeated the first, second and orochimaru, and he was old, mastered all the jutsu in Konoha, Imagine what he could do in his prime. Can your precious Itachi do that? explain.

No for the third raikage who went toe-to-toe with eight tails, fought 10,000 men army for 3 days, was extremely fast. you think amaterasu will win, nope he can evade it. Tshukuyomi nope the amount of chakra going through him he can disrupt it, and susanoo he can just break it or penetrate him with his fingers.

Nagato easily please, I don't dislike Itachi, he's in my second favorit ninja after Jiraiya boy, but this match wouldn't go easily at all. Itachi is at least knowledgeable with his sith paths, so Itachi would have a chance to beat him. Not a big chance, but we know Itachi is very smart so he could find a way. I would say mostly Nagato, but this fight could go both ways, but extremely hard for both fighters.

Naruto (SM) I'm still not sure about that. We know Naruto is not the genjutsu type and has no mean to defend against it, and Itachi is a genjutsu master, the best out there, so I would say no, maybe Naruto Km.

Sasuke (ems) maybe, I don't think Sasuke is going to get any new powers except now he can use his powers more better. Could go both ways.

I am more likely to say that you're a fanboy, and this thread is missing people that can beat Itachi such as A, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, maybe Danzo, we don't know anything of Sakumo Hatake maybe, maybe the kinkaku brothers. I won't have time to explain but yes don't underestimate shinobis, you should've learned that since the first naruto.
 
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kisame doesnt have a chance in hell even in shark mode yes itachei would have to get series with him but for some reason i think itacheis black fire would burn through the water. as for the 4th hokage with his speed yes but that really depends on what itachei does if he uses that jutsu that is the ultimate defence then id say he would win or a stale mate. madara would not even have to try

but question would hiden have any chance? he is immortal but as we saw he can get to the point where he can not movie if cut to pieces
 

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yea itachi can def beat kisame (no disrespect) he can just seal nagato up (as proven) he can prob beat sasuke idk now sasuke is like an overkill and for some reason and yes i will say it....i think itachi cud have beaten tobi
 

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Sasori would be another one. Puppets and poison. Not a good thing for Itachi.
sasori wouldnt even touch itachi .. not with his taijutsu and sussano .... yatta mirror and sealing sword ? no way ... can sasori do something .... only yattar mirror deflector all his puppets and poison !
 
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