11 Supernovas - New world power?

[Wesobi]

I have been thinking lately, although the idea seems idiotic for several reasons, and I know many of you will strongly disagree (I don't even agree, but I thought I'd throw it in the group for the lulz of it).

As we've all noticed, there are 11 Supernovas, the rookies that are bound to make the shit go down in The New World.

Now, theoretically speaking, there should be 7 Shichibukai, and 4 Yonko. Maybe it's just a silly coincidence, but in total those are the same number.

Now, I know most of you will say: That's impossible, Luffy is going to be Pirate King and Zorro would never do that, but simply hypothetically speaking, what do you think? And if so, who should get which position in your opinion?

 

[lubricati0n]

Who should get what position? I'm not sure what your exact question is O_O

 

[Boa Hancock]

No, I don't think so. Bonney has been captured by the WG. Capone is out there being dead I guess. Law isn't in the NW yet, or as far as we know. Drake just made Kaidou his enemy.

 

[Dracule]

Huh, never even noticed that before. Hmm...I guess the monster trio being Yonko would be pretty cool. I can't picture any of them being Warlords though. Maybe X-Drake and Capone, but thats about it lol.

 

[PandaMan.]

Partially off topic question. Is luffy still in the supernovas, I mean his bounty is pretty high, and i certanly wouldnt call him a rookie anymore

 

[Boa Hancock]

He technically wouldn't, but I think he still is. They were called Supernovas since they gathered all at one place for a reason. You don't see Caribou or Coribou being called Supernovas right?

 

[Riku..]

Who should get what position? I'm not sure what your exact question is O_O

I believe that he's saying 7 Shichibukai + 4 Yonko = 11 Pirates, so in theory, when the New Age essentially takes over and the current top pirates retire, there'll be a spot for each of the Rookie Pirates in either group.

Interesting... I guess the expected thing to say would be Luffy, Law, and Kid for three of the four Yonko, but the flaw that I'm having here is mostly found with Zoro. I mean... I can't see him wanting to be a Yonko, but I have even more trouble seeing him as a Schichibuki. He just doesn't seem to fit either position, and for some reason it seems unfitting for either a Schichubukai (as if they would even offer Zoro this position after being part of Luffy's crew) or a Yonko to not be a captain of a crew, and being that by no stretch of the imagination will Luffy become a Schichbukai, a captain who's a Yonko having a crew member that's a Shichibukai... need I go on? And speaking of Luffy, there's also the problem that Luffy probably isn't interested in any title but the Pirate King, and the only reason why he even wants that isn't for the title but, as he said at one point, for total freedom.

So... I dunno, I like the idea, but Luffy and Zoro just don't seem to fit the position. As for the other pirates, I'd say that Eustass and Law would become Yonko (but even that's a bit out there) and as for the others... well I don't think that we know enough about them to say who else is fit for what yet. Except that Drake might decide to re-affiliate himself with the WG as a Schichibukai, but that's pretty far-fetched too.

 

[Love Cook]

He technically wouldn't, but I think he still is. They were called Supernovas since they gathered all at one place for a reason. You don't see Caribou or Coribou being called Supernovas right?

The Supernovas are the top rookie pirates from nine different crews who all chose one of the seven routes along the Grand Line. They are comprised of the captains of the nine crews as well as two other crewmates who also are above the bounty threshold of 100,000,000.

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According to Shakuyaku, one of the Supernovas could potentially be responsible for inspiring a whole new generation of pirates. Technically Caribou or Coribou and every other pirate with a 100M Beli bounty is a supernova too.

I don't think that the current eleven supernova's aren't shichibukai material let alone Yonkou level. As a Shichibukai you must have strong intimidation skills and a fearsome representation to put off others becoming a pirate and make them fear them. In addition, given the dialogue between Bartholomew Kuma and the Gorosei, it can be assumed that once someone becomes a member of the Shichibukai they must be undefeated to maintain their position, or at least are not allowed to have a widely known loss that affects their reputation.

So based on those criteria I don't think people like Urogue, Killer, Apoo and Bege Capone and some others can be Supernova. They lack intimidation skills I think a lot of strong pirates would still fight them and even win. The top tier Supernova's like Luffy, Kid and Law can be shichibukai but I think two of the three don't want to become one.

I only see Law becoming a shichibukai because he has the strength and he is a bit mysterious doing strange stuff with hidden motives. The rest is too weak or not interested in my opinion.

As for yonkou, all those supernova's aren't even close to yonkou level if Whitebeard's power is the standard.

 

[BlacKing]

The Supernovas are the top rookie pirates from nine different crews who all chose one of the seven routes along the Grand Line. They are comprised of the captains of the nine crews as well as two other crewmates who also are above the bounty threshold of 100,000,000.

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According to Shakuyaku, one of the Supernovas could potentially be responsible for inspiring a whole new generation of pirates. Technically Caribou or Coribou and every other pirate with a 100M Beli bounty is a supernova too.

I don't think that the current eleven supernova's aren't shichibukai material let alone Yonkou level. As a Shichibukai you must have strong intimidation skills and a fearsome representation to put off others becoming a pirate and make them fear them. In addition, given the dialogue between Bartholomew Kuma and the Gorosei, it can be assumed that once someone becomes a member of the Shichibukai they must be undefeated to maintain their position, or at least are not allowed to have a widely known loss that affects their reputation.

So based on those criteria I don't think people like Urogue, Killer, Apoo and Bege Capone and some others can be Supernova. They lack intimidation skills I think a lot of strong pirates would still fight them and even win. The top tier Supernova's like Luffy, Kid and Law can be shichibukai but I think two of the three don't want to become one.

I only see Law becoming a shichibukai because he has the strength and he is a bit mysterious doing strange stuff with hidden motives. The rest is too weak or not interested in my opinion.

As for yonkou, all those supernova's aren't even close to yonkou level if Whitebeard's power is the standard.

No he isnt. Caribou wasnt shown to be on the island until TWO YEARS AFTER the landing of the 11 Supernovas. If you arent in the 11 that landed there then you arent' one of the supernovas. PERIOD.

 

[jeanwolfe]

They are nowhere near the strength of the Yonkou, and moreover Yonkou are powerful because of the large number of powerful commanders and allies they have. It also depends how long the journey in the new world will be

 

[Love Cook]

No he isnt. Caribou wasnt shown to be on the island until TWO YEARS AFTER the landing of the 11 Supernovas. If you arent in the 11 that landed there then you arent' one of the supernovas. PERIOD.

And this is based on what? feeling ?

I remember Rayleigh saying something like "this generation of Supernova's has a lot of potential" It was back in the Seabody Archipelago arc. So there have been more groups of Supernova's we just haven't seen them yet and we only know who are in Luffy's group.

There are a lot more pirates with a 100M + bounty then just the eleven we know. So there isn't just one group of Supernova's as there isn't "one group" of Shichibukai. There are only seven warlords at a time but there are a lot more people who have been Shichibukai.

So give me facts, quotes, links that prove otherwise then just stating your opinion and saying PERIOD.

 

[BlacKing]

And this is based on what? feeling ?

I remember Rayleigh saying something like "this generation of Supernova's has a lot of potential" It was back in the Seabody Archipelago arc. So there have been more groups of Supernova's we just haven't seen them yet and we only know who are in Luffy's group.

There are a lot more pirates with a 100M + bounty then just the eleven we know. So there isn't just one group of Supernova's as there isn't "one group" of Shichibukai. There are only seven warlords at a time but there are a lot more people who have been Shichibukai.

So give me facts, quotes, links that prove otherwise then just stating your opinion and saying PERIOD.

And I shall, as soon as you show proof that Caribou is "technically" a supernova. Just because he has a high bounty (>100K) and he was at that location doesnt make him a supernova. There is no telling when he arrived on the island. He could have gotten there anytime before the Strawhats or after the strawhats. Either way, it doesnt necessarily make him a Supernova.

 

[uzamaki2223]

i disagree some what with the earlier post... i think that luffy adapted most of his pirate ideals from either shanks or ace.... i don't think that any of the yonkou are satisfied with jus being a yonkou... I'm sure they want to b the yonkou so to speak. in saying that i think that luffy wouldn't want the title or proclaim the title of yonkou, much like his title of supernova but i think that the WG would bestow that one like his latter title... as for the others i think that zoro wouldn't b a good shichi n I'm sure he wouldn't leave luffy to control another area as a yonkou so that eliminates him, law.... i think he would b good n either position but i think he would b best as luffy's next top rival after captain kid, kid n killer would b awesome as a yonkou counter to luffy n zoro but i honestly think that they'd b better as shichi's... as far as the others r concerned, i think that most of them r bum's n won't even b good snuff to make an impact n da new world... i actually think that most of the other supernovas will either join the current yonkou or some other strong crew probably even BB crew... the only other supernova that i think cud do anything n the new world now or n the future is drake... i actually think bonney n maybe the fallen angel will join luffy's crew... jus a thought tho...

 

[s0ulja]

-well the emporers and warlords are they're to maintain balance...and as far as the emperors are concerned i dont see them getting knocked over so easily...shanks for example was respected by sengoku n feared by the admirals..the only ones out of the supoernovas that showed potential of that calibar is law n luffy..kid is strong but doesnt use his head. drake cant be a warlord cuz his an x-captain..maybe the hawkins is another candidate..either way they all have awhile to go before they reach that level...maybe except for luffy...
-in zoro's case he doesn't seem like the type that would be interested in such titles..but once he surpasses mihawk there wouldn be anything left for him to do so maybe the monstor trio might become the emperors...
-i woudnt consider couribou 9how ever way it spelt) part of the supernova's reason being its sort of like a title, similar to the 3 sannin from naruto, or the leaf 11/12 ( :s)..also he doesn't look like a rookie

 

[Love Cook]

And I shall, as soon as you show proof that Caribou is "technically" a supernova. Just because he has a high bounty (>100K) and he was at that location doesnt make him a supernova. There is no telling when he arrived on the island. He could have gotten there anytime before the Strawhats or after the strawhats. Either way, it doesnt necessarily make him a Supernova.

What the hell does the whole island has to do with it anyway. I am not even suggesting that those two belong to the same group of Luffy anywhere. I'm just saying that they are supernova's because they have a bounty of 100M Beli. Look at the world: "Supernova" it means as much as a big star. It's not a ranking or the name of a group. It's a qualification of the bounty those pirates have.

Every pirate with a bounty >100m is a Supernova.

At the time luffy was at Saobody there were 11. The whole idea of introducing them at that time was because they all were on that island at the same time which gave the marines a headache. So they were introduced to us then so we can follow them into the new world.

So Caribou and Coribou are not "technically" a supernova, they just are.

-well the emporers and warlords are they're to maintain balance...

-in zoro's case he doesn't seem like the type that would be interested in such titles..but once he surpasses mihawk there wouldn be anything left for him to do so maybe the monstor trio might become the emperors...

So three of the four emperors on one ship... How is that even balanced ?

Besides do you really think that Sanji and Zoro could reach Shanks/Whitebeard level ?

I think that it will be hard enough fo Luffy to reach that status. One of the best four pirates in the world.

 

[Alternative]

What I believe about the 11 Supernovas and why they are named that is not the fact that they're rookies with

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100m, but because of the sheer size of the rookies. Right now in the anime where we've got the rookie pirate brothers Caribou and Coribou, I wouldn't consider them part of the Supernovas because they weren't considered that famous since then. What I think moreso is because there are 11 different people who just happen to be rookie pirates and all have upset the World Government to attain

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100m and the status of Supernova.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

i can only think eustass captain kid to be the new power in the new world

 

[s0ulja]

What the hell does the whole island has to do with it anyway. I am not even suggesting that those two belong to the same group of Luffy anywhere. I'm just saying that they are supernova's because they have a bounty of 100M Beli. Look at the world: "Supernova" it means as much as a big star. It's not a ranking or the name of a group. It's a qualification of the bounty those pirates have.

Every pirate with a bounty >100m is a Supernova.

At the time luffy was at Saobody there were 11. The whole idea of introducing them at that time was because they all were on that island at the same time which gave the marines a headache. So they were introduced to us then so we can follow them into the new world.

So Caribou and Coribou are not "technically" a supernova, they just are.




So three of the four emperors on one ship... How is that even balanced ?

Besides do you really think that Sanji and Zoro could reach Shanks/Whitebeard level ?

I think that it will be hard enough fo Luffy to reach that status. One of the best four pirates in the world.

well lets look at what they've been doing...luffy trained with dark king and plans to be the pirate king..thats more than any emperor or warloard...zoro wants to surpass mihawk and was trained by him as well...a current warlord and an exceptional one at that...sanji has no ambitions as such but his never too far away from zoro and was trained by the right hand man of dragon whos currently at emperor level if not higher, not to mention his showing similar strength to jinbe who's warlord level (ex-warlord)...they're more than capable but yea it seems unbalanced
but i personally don't think we'l get to that stage..they'l most probablly retire at the end of their journey but to maintain that balance u need strong n with that sense of justice..dragons another option but i dont think he'l leave the RA. only other person i see capable of that position is law

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

well lets look at what they've been doing...luffy trained with dark king and plans to be the pirate king..thats more than any emperor or warloard...zoro wants to surpass mihawk and was trained by him as well...a current warlord and an exceptional one at that...sanji has no ambitions as such but his never too far away from zoro and was trained by the right hand man of dragon whos currently at emperor level if not higher, not to mention his showing similar strength to jinbe who's warlord level (ex-warlord)...they're more than capable but yea it seems unbalanced
but i personally don't think we'l get to that stage..they'l most probablly retire at the end of their journey but to maintain that balance u need strong n with that sense of justice..dragons another option but i dont think he'l leave the RA. only other person i see capable of that position is law

WTF!!!!! sanji has no ambition ? don't u see what happen at mermaid cove ?
and also don't u what he said when shirahoshi was behind him?!!!

and don't forget all blue is his ultimate dream but now he's ultimate ambition is to make luffy the PIRATE KING just like the other straw hats crew

 

[Wesobi]

Taking all the earlier things that were said into account, the unlikeliness of this happening is mostly aimed at Zorro and Luffy, for their goals lie elsewhere. As I said ,the idea itself is very unlikely, but I just happened to notice it and the idea that occurred seemed funny to me.

Anyways, you can't really expect any of them to have the sheer power yet to attain the title, so the fitting question would actually be which title they would be able to have at the end op One Piece, when their abilities are maxed out.

As for Zorro, though the likeliness is low yet again, I think if there would be any reason for him to join the shichibukai, it would be solely because Mihawk would ask him to take his place. I'm not implying that this would happen, but if it were to happen it would be along these lines.

In general, Luffy/Kidd/Law seem more Yonko types, though Kidd's satirical atittude, or atleast mood swings seem to indicate the attitude of certain Shichibukai more than a Yonko... Correct me if I'm wrong though, I've onlyrecently finished it.


About the new people with a bounty of over 100 million. Let's just keep them out of the picture for a while, I'm on about the supernovas as we know them now.