11 Biggest Sins of the War Arc

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I really liked most of the war arc. I think its the peak of the series up until Obito's defeat. These are the only moments that made me want to leave the Naruto train early were in the final few arcs. It was like a trainwreck I couldn't look away from, these were my least fav War moments. Some of them aren't as obviously damaging as you may think so I thought i'd share.

PERRIOT RUINED 2/3 OF THE BEST 3 FIGHTS (with Bad animation & direction)

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MINATO SAVES OBITO: (Sasuke should've killed him to end the War Arc early)

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KAGE ARE ALL ALIVE:

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EDO MADARA VS HASHIRAMA IS OFF-SCREEN

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MINATO WANK TOOK UP AN ENTIRE ARC

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SEVEN NINJA SWORDSMEN WASTED

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JJ MADARA SUCKS & OVERSTAYS HIS WELCOME BY 2 YEARS (Also begins breaking established NV rules for the sake of the plot)

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IT DREAMS BEING INSULTING TO THE MAIN CAST: (almost like reverse character development)

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KAKASHI GETS KAMUI SUSANOO: (The arc was just rule-breaking, unsatisfying nonsense at this point)

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IZANAMI (Is a blatant & poorly executed/explaind Deus Ex Machina)

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KAGUYA (If needed save for Boruto or Establish earlier/give backstory)

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...It was a tough couple of years at the end to keep reading there. Neji's death, the 7 ​

 

[Reviewing Logic]

If Minato didn't save Obito then Sasuke would've been trapped in that dimension until he eventually learnt to escape by himself

 

[Jinrou]

Tbh i'm still not sure what the issue with Izanami is?

 

[awesomeseimei]

Honestly, I had a hard time following the war arc (well, mostly starting from the Juubi vs everyone anyway). So many things happening at once, all those power-ups etc. just left me confused (I have a pretty bad short-term memory and attention span issues so yeah).

 

[Obítō1]

Kishi

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Honestly, I had a hard time following the war arc (well, mostly starting from the Juubi vs everyone anyway). So many things happening at once, all those power-ups etc. just left me confused (I have a pretty bad short-term memory and attention span issues so yeah).

Same, that's when things start falling apart when the K11 begin showing off all their jutsu. The last chapter of sanity was Obito bombing Alliance HQ but i've grown to love the Edo Hokage/Sage Obito arc. Wish it had ended there.

Tbh i'm still not sure what the issue with Izanami is?

Establish powers beforehand if they're going to play such a HUGE role to the story. It's origin is convoluted (and other fans say it's existence to counter Izanagi doesn't add up)

but all I know is that it's a textbook Deus Ex Machina that takes several pages of undramatic explaining. It's like a powerpoint with literal diagrams = Not engaging.

It's also never seen again mysteriously which is why Naruto fans have branded it the 'Beat Kabuto no Jutsu'. There were several other ways a smart writer could've defeated Kabuto without killing him. I can think of 3 off the top of my head as he's obviously a character who has to lose.

If Minato didn't save Obito then Sasuke would've been trapped in that dimension until he eventually learnt to escape by himself

That's...not how stories or hypothetical situations work haha. If Obito wasn't around then a writer wouldn't put Sasuke in that situation without another way of getting out of it.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

That's...not how stories or hypothetical situations work haha. If Obito wasn't around then a writer wouldn't put Sasuke in that situation without another way of getting out of it.

I am not talking about writer freedom but the reality of a fictional world were a enemy is known to make multiple dimensions

especially if the two foes each have a seal that when placed together would mean doom for the villains plans

 

[awesomeseimei]

Same, that's when things start falling apart when the K11 begin showing off all their jutsu. The last chapter of sanity was Obito bombing Alliance HQ but i've grown to love the Edo Hokage/Sage Obito arc. Wish it had ended there.

I was meaning to re-read the war in its entirety, but I still haven't gotten to it. If I ever get to it I might grow to appreciate more of it too.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I am not talking about writer freedom but the reality of a fictional world were a enemy is known to make multiple dimensions

especially if the two foes each have a seal that when placed together would mean doom for the villains plans

But the situation is hypothetical...in a fictional series.

I don't understand your point. If Obito had hypothetically died, Kishi isn't stuck into future events to write Sasuke getting stuck in another dimension. Hell, he doesn't even have to invent a character who can do that.

 

[Jinrou]

Establish powers beforehand if they're going to play such a HUGE role to the story. It's origin is convoluted (and other fans say it's existence to counter Izanagi doesn't add up)

but all I know is that it's a textbook Deus Ex Machina that takes several pages of undramatic explaining. It's like a powerpoint with literal diagrams = Not engaging.

It's also never seen again mysteriously which is why Naruto fans have branded it the 'Beat Kabuto no Jutsu'. There were several other ways a smart writer could've defeated Kabuto without killing him. I can think of 3 off the top of my head as he's obviously a character who has to lose.

It's been a while and if you asked for my understanding of the technique, i wouldn't be able to give you an answer but at the moment it was introduced, the explanation seemed pretty clear. I have however seen the bold listed many times as a gripe people have with the technique but i still don't get it. In what way was it supposed to be established beforehand exactly?

And this is considering there were many techniques that made sudden appearances. Iirc, Izanagi itself came into play all of a sudden when it seemed Konan had defeated Obito right?

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

It's been a while and if you asked for my understanding of the technique, i wouldn't be able to give you an answer but at the moment it was introduced, the explanation seemed pretty clear. I have however seen the bold listed many times as a gripe people have with the technique but i still don't get it. In what way was it supposed to be established beforehand exactly?

And this is considering there were many techniques that made sudden appearances. Iirc, Izanagi itself came into play all of a sudden when it seemed Konan had defeated Obito right?

It's just unsatisfying. When Obito survived Konan (the rightful victor of that fight) it was lame also. Izanami is the perfect example of deus ex machina.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

But the situation is hypothetical...in a fictional series.

I don't understand your point. If Obito had hypothetically died, Kishi isn't stuck into future events to write Sasuke getting stuck in another dimension. Hell, he doesn't even have to invent a character who can do that.

I am just saying if Kishi did that then he would have had to retconn Kaguya's dimension ability or to make another plot whole/sin were Kaguya doesn't banish Sasuke into another realm

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I am just saying if Kishi did that then he would have had to retconn Kaguya's dimension ability or to make another plot whole/sin were Kaguya doesn't banish Sasuke into another realm

Why would he retcon something he hasn't introduced yet...??? In another world where Kishi wrote that Obito was executed by Sasuke. The events that followed would naturally be different.

And yes, you've just described my point.

 

[kiiro]

War arc is good until Obito becomes Jinchuriki.

 

[Hakke]

I think you forgot about something

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the War arc is unarguably the shitiest arc in Naruto

Edit: it seem you did not

 

[1000 Chirping Birds]

I think you forgot about something

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the War arc is unarguably the shitiest arc in Naruto

he said it at the end but yeah this was terrible

at least it was the Final Villains with a god kaijuu

 

[awesomeseimei]

I think you forgot about something

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the War arc is unarguably the shitiest arc in Naruto

I'm not even a Neji fan but that was one of the very few parts that literally made me stare in disbelief. It was just so random. I even started using the term "Neji'd" when referring to characters dying spontaneously.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I'm not even a Neji fan but that was one of the very few parts that literally made me stare in disbelief. It was just so random. I even started using the term "Neji'd" when referring to characters dying spontaneously.

See but it would've been fine if the killings had continued. To elevate the war into actual stakes and make Obito's 'You can't save everyone' speech make sense. Instead everyone hangs around the battlefield doing nothing, not seen on panel for months at a time until the series ends.

 

[Vulpini]

Hinata should've died instead of Neji. Or both together.

 

[awesomeseimei]

See but it would've been fine if the killings had continued. To elevate the war into actual stakes and make Obito's 'You can't save everyone' speech make sense. Instead everyone hangs around the battlefield doing nothing, not seen on panel for months at a time until the series ends.

Exactly, and then there are the likes of Samui, Atsui and Yamato who were captured just to get released once everything was over. Now I'm not the kind of person who likes deaths for the sake of deaths, but they were in a war for goodness sake.

I remember someone saying back when the manga ended that they felt bad for the (few unfortunate) dead characters rather than happy for those who survived. That's exactly how it felt to me too.