100% Katsuyu vs Manda 2

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Lmao nevermind. It's 100% Katsuyu who is roughly 1.55 miles.




How did you count that?

Even if they were the same size Manda had nothing to hurt Katsuyu with.
Katsuyu is like a pudding.
 

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Manda wrecks. What will she do? Throw acid at him? He dodges that and then comes up behind her and eats her.
 

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Manda wrecks. What will she do? Throw acid at him? He dodges that and then comes up behind her and eats her.

You do realize that 100% Katsuyu is freaking enormous. Manda 2 can't eat Katsuyu. Too big.
Even if Manda 2 did eat Katsuyu it could just acid it's way out, killing Manda 2 in process. :|
 

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There is absolutely nothing Gamabunta or Manda can do to damage Katsuyu.

Katuyu is probably the biggest entity in the whole NV.

Gamabunta can spit oil/fire at her and evaporate her
Also, isnt the juubi bigger than Katsuyu?
 

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100% Katsuyu is roughly as big as the Juubi.
 

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Gamabunta can spit oil/fire at her and evaporate her
Also, isnt the juubi bigger than Katsuyu?

I doubt the Juubi is bigger than 100% Katsuyu. Probably around the same size at least.
Gamabunta can spit all the oil he wants, he can't light it alone.
 

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100% Katsuyu is about 2,7 times bigger than the Katsuyu we saw from Sakura and Tsunade individually (5%) in each and every dimentions; length, width and height as cube root of 20 is 2,7 and full Katsuyu is 20 times more than the oneswe saw from them.

So it is most certainly not the biggest entity when it was getting dwarfed by Juubi while infront of it by a margin:

Being 2,7 times taller would not change much.

Just saying. Not much interested in the matchup of monsters.
 

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100% Katsuyu is about 2,7 times bigger than the Katsuyu we saw from Sakura and Tsunade individually (5%) in each and every dimentions; length, width and height as cube root of 20 is 2,7 and full Katsuyu is 20 times more than the oneswe saw from them.

So it is most certainly not the biggest entity when it was getting dwarfed by Juubi while infront of it by a margin:

Being 2,7 times taller would not change much.

Just saying. Not much interested in the matchup of monsters.

Your math sucks. 100% Katsuyu is 10x bigger than the one Tsunade and Sakura summoned.
 

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100% Katsuyu is about 2,7 times bigger than the Katsuyu we saw from Sakura and Tsunade individually (5%) in each and every dimentions; length, width and height as cube root of 20 is 2,7 and full Katsuyu is 20 times more than the oneswe saw from them.

So it is most certainly not the biggest entity when it was getting dwarfed by Juubi while infront of it by a margin:

Being 2,7 times taller would not change much.

Just saying. Not much interested in the matchup of monsters.

No, not at all. Even the 10% of the slug is 2X bigger than the one summoned by Tsunade. 100% would be 10X bigger. I don't even know why are you trying to use real life logic here.
 

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Your math sucks. 100% Katsuyu is 10x bigger than the one Tsunade and Sakura summoned.

Your comprehension sucks. I mentioned individual Katsuyu summoned by either Tsunade or Sakura, which means half of what they summoned together meaning 5% not 10%. 10% is what they did together.

No, not at all. Even the 10% of the slug is 2X bigger than the one summoned by Tsunade. 100% would be 10X bigger. I don't even know why are you trying to use real life logic here.


No it is not, it is simple maths, what i say is 100% Katsuyu is not as big as people claim (like 10 times taller, larger etc. than what Sakura and Tsunade did).
 

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There is absolutely nothing Gamabunta or Manda can do to damage Katsuyu.

Katuyu is probably the biggest entity in the whole NV.

you miss the point. It doesn't matter what you think can or can't hurt katsuya, the author created the sennin as a type of rochambeau--or rock paper scissors for you less eloquent folk.

The author has already dictated that Katsuya > Manda > Bunta > Katsuya, so by this logic Katsuya beats Manda and Bunta beats Katsuya.

Don't bring your fanfiction into this, kid
 

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you miss the point. It doesn't matter what you think can or can't hurt katsuya, the author created the sennin as a type of rochambeau--or rock paper scissors for you less eloquent folk.

The author has already dictated that Katsuya > Manda > Bunta > Katsuya, so by this logic Katsuya beats Manda and Bunta beats Katsuya.

Don't bring your fanfiction into this, kid

The fudge? :D
 

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The fudge? :D

"A variation of the worldwide game "Rock, Paper, Scissors" in Japan presented in the early 1640s was the "Slug, Snake, Frog" variation. In this variation, the Frog is afraid of the Snake, the Snake is afraid of the Slug, and the Slug is afraid of the Frog. This is influenced by the Sansukumi way of thinking where it keeps the three objects in a deadlock. This concept was referenced and joked upon in an omake of episode 164 of Naruto: Shippūden, where Katsuyu feared that with Manda deceased, Gamabunta and the toads of Mount Myōboku would now try eating it. This was also played for in episode 8 of Rock Lee no Seishun Full Power Ninden where after Tsunade and Naruto summoned Katsuyu and Gamabunta, the latter swallowed the former shortly after appearing, much to Tsunade's horror"

It's the deadlock... first introduced and part 1 and was recently reintroduced during the war, as noted by Minato and Sandaime Hokage
 

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"A variation of the worldwide game "Rock, Paper, Scissors" in Japan presented in the early 1640s was the "Slug, Snake, Frog" variation. In this variation, the Frog is afraid of the Snake, the Snake is afraid of the Slug, and the Slug is afraid of the Frog. This is influenced by the Sansukumi way of thinking where it keeps the three objects in a deadlock. This concept was referenced and joked upon in an omake of episode 164 of Naruto: Shippūden, where Katsuyu feared that with Manda deceased, Gamabunta and the toads of Mount Myōboku would now try eating it. This was also played for in episode 8 of Rock Lee no Seishun Full Power Ninden where after Tsunade and Naruto summoned Katsuyu and Gamabunta, the latter swallowed the former shortly after appearing, much to Tsunade's horror"

It's the deadlock... first introduced and part 1 and was recently reintroduced during the war, as noted by Minato and Sandaime Hokage

You're like the best debater here. Ever.
 

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"A variation of the worldwide game "Rock, Paper, Scissors" in Japan presented in the early 1640s was the "Slug, Snake, Frog" variation. In this variation, the Frog is afraid of the Snake, the Snake is afraid of the Slug, and the Slug is afraid of the Frog. This is influenced by the Sansukumi way of thinking where it keeps the three objects in a deadlock. This concept was referenced and joked upon in an omake of episode 164 of Naruto: Shippūden, where Katsuyu feared that with Manda deceased, Gamabunta and the toads of Mount Myōboku would now try eating it. This was also played for in episode 8 of Rock Lee no Seishun Full Power Ninden where after Tsunade and Naruto summoned Katsuyu and Gamabunta, the latter swallowed the former shortly after appearing, much to Tsunade's horror"

It's the deadlock... first introduced and part 1 and was recently reintroduced during the war, as noted by Minato and Sandaime Hokage

maybe, but the sannin deadlock was comparing bunta to a katsuya who's at best at 5% of her total size. How do you go from bunta at best beating 5% katsuya to bunta beating 100% katsuya?
 

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maybe, but the sannin deadlock was comparing bunta to a katsuya who's at best at 5% of her total size. How do you go from bunta at best beating 5% katsuya to bunta beating 100% katsuya?

well the only instance Bunta and Katsuya should be fighting is under the pretenses of the summoning jutsu. "Katsuyu is only as strong as her summoner" The strongest person to summon Katsuyu is Tsunade; it will always be 5% kaguya vs Bunta in this regard. And saying 100% kaguya in a vs thread is fanfic because the only two ppl with the byakagou (or whatever it's called) seal were able to summon 10% of her. So right now it's only possible to have 10% kaguya vs Bunta or Manda, at best.

But i'll entertain the thought of a 100% kaguya vs Bunta for a second. If in the natural order toads > slugs, I'm led to believe regardless of Katsuyu's size, Bunta will always beat her--rock will always beat scissors
 

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Your comprehension sucks. I mentioned individual Katsuyu summoned by either Tsunade or Sakura, which means half of what they summoned together meaning 5% not 10%. 10% is what they did together.



No it is not, it is simple maths, what i say is 100% Katsuyu is not as big as people claim (like 10 times taller, larger etc. than what Sakura and Tsunade did).

So then 100% is 20x bigger than what they summon regularly(5%).
 
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well the only instance Bunta and Katsuya should be fighting is under the pretenses of the summoning jutsu. "Katsuyu is only as strong as her summoner" The strongest person to summon Katsuyu is Tsunade; it will always be 5% kaguya vs Bunta in this regard. And saying 100% kaguya in a vs thread is fanfic because the only two ppl with the byakagou (or whatever it's called) seal were able to summon 10% of her. So right now it's only possible to have 10% kaguya vs Bunta or Manda, at best.
It's completely irrelevant if 100% Katsuya can't be summoned on the battlefield or not. You stated bunta > 100% Katsuya, so you are presupposing that (possible or not) 100% Katsuya is there to fight bunta, and that bunta would win if that happened which obviously does not follow if your evidence is simply based on bunta being > 5% katsuya. Versus matches are hypotheticals meaning that it's irrelevant if the starting stipulations of the matches are impossible since almost all of the versus matches made would not be possible since both characters never existed at the same time in the manga, or there's some impossible stipulation such as no knowledge when a person canonically has full.

But i'll entertain the thought of a 100% kaguya vs Bunta for a second. If in the natural order toads > slugs, I'm led to believe regardless of Katsuyu's size, Bunta will always beat her--rock will always beat scissors
So you believe that a scissors no matter how large is incapable of cutting a rock no matter how small? You believe that part 1 gamakichi would solo 100% Katsuya as well? Natural order is lions > zebra, yet does that mean a normal lion wouldn't get stomped by a 100 foot zebra? Stop being dense, just like elemental affinities, the natural orders of toads > slugs > snakes is at best meant to be taken at all things equal, not as a fundamental law of physics where toads are necessarily > slugs regardless of the properties of said toad and said slug.
 

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It's completely irrelevant if 100% Katsuya can't be summoned on the battlefield or not. You stated bunta > 100% Katsuya, so you are presupposing that (possible or not) 100% Katsuya is there to fight bunta, and that bunta would win if that happened which obviously does not follow if your evidence is simply based on bunta being > 5% katsuya. Versus matches are hypotheticals meaning that it's irrelevant if the starting stipulations of the matches are impossible since almost all of the versus matches made would not be possible since both characters never existed at the same time in the manga, or there's some impossible stipulation such as no knowledge when a person canonically has full.


So you believe that a scissors no matter how large is incapable of cutting a rock no matter how small? You believe that part 1 gamakichi would solo 100% Katsuya as well? Natural order is lions > zebra, yet does that mean a normal lion wouldn't get stomped by a 100 foot zebra? Stop being dense, just like elemental affinities, the natural orders of toads > slugs > snakes is at best meant to be taken at all things equal, not as a fundamental law of physics where toads are necessarily > slugs regardless of the properties of said toad and said slug.

Look, I didn't make up the rules to rochambeau, they simply are.
 
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