100% Backed-up FACT about the misunderstanding of 'Hagoromo and the moon'

[Seventh Sama]

Uh yeah the sage did create the moon on his deathbed.
Clearly that viz scan kidgamer posted stated that he defeated and sealed the Juubi in him.
Also Kurama implied that the gedo mazo was still sealed in hagoromo's body after the bijuu were created.

 

[uzumakinaruto389]

it's a little confusing lol
but yeah i reread it and it makes sense.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

Hagoromo and Hamura place seals on Juubi then seal it in Hagoromo:

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Hagoromo was Juubi Jinchurki

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Hagoromo extracted Ten tails chakra to giving them form created Tailed beasts:

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Hagoromo creating Moon on his death bed:

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So are you saying that Hagoromo initially sealed his own mother, Kaguya, into himself and she never managed to take over him even at his deathbed? Then he released her and sealed her into the moon (on his deathbed mind you) after stripping her of her power? I'm jus asking coz your post doesn't mention Kaguya at all whereas we now know she and the Juubi were on and Hagoromo and Hamura actually fought her.

 

[RedShadow]

You pretty much took the post I already replied to, and turned it into a thread.



That's Hagoromo's Natural (Base) state. So no, my statement does make sense. We are comparing JJ Hagoromo to JJ Madara. If Madara needs the Juubi to do something Base Hagoromo can do on his deathbed, then...Lol. Its clear who's weaker.




Official Translation disagrees.

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Once again, wrong. The Bijuu were separated from the Mazo as they were already in existence this time around. If this is how Hagoromo became the Jinchuuriki, then he'd only have the Bijuu's chakra and no Mazo, as it would have been sealed into the Moon. Which is obviously false as Hagoromo was stated to have the Mazo and the Juubi's Chakra inside him.

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They sealed the Juubi in him, then when he was old he extracted the Juubi's Chakra, made the 9 Bijuu, and later on after he had recovered from the extraction, he removed the Gedo Mazo and sealed it using Chibaku Tensei.

You're wrong. Simple as that.

Hold on where did you get the official image from? Other than that, your ability to deduce and create counter-arguments would be pretty useful for a team on the Negative side in Debating!! +Rep

 

[Darkakatsuki]

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If they sealed the Juubi in CT, then they couldn't have sealed it inside Hagoromo. Its either or, not both at once. So by saying that they used CT to seal her at that point, you are saying that they didn't seal her inside Hagoromo, meaning you are wrong. Again.

But when Naruto and Sasuke used CT on Kaguya she was seperated from the Juubi (nine tailed beasts), isn't it possible then for them to have done both CT and sealed the juubi into Hagoromo, since it would have been seperated from Kaguya when they used the seal, Kaguya would have been hurled into the sky, and the Juubi (nine tailed beasts in Naruto and Sasuke's case) would have then been sealed into Hagoromo. That makes much more sense imo, ofcourse, until we bring up the fact that Hagoromo was said to have hurled the juubi's empty husk into the sky with chibaku tensei at his deathbed, after releasing it and seperating it into nine beasts. Honestly, the way I see it, this is an obvious plothole on Kishi's part

 

[Ansatsuken]

I've made two threads on this.

Neither. Was a jin, In fact Hagoromo was a pseudo Jin, thus why only the gedo mazo was sealed.

And to add on, the gedo mazo is the juubi without all its chakra, the chakra Hagoromo sealed in himself.

Then later on in his life, Hagoromo used COAT to create the bijuu from that chakra.

But then there's the comment Kurama made about Hagoromo being immobilized because of having the gedo mazo.

But Kurama was created after the fact so..

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This also some good explanation by you my friend

but still don't you having a little bit sceptical about how hago know about all juubi component without him learning it first?

 

[Bronze]

Kishimoto obviously made plot-hole in his manga with this case. It's revealed that Hagoromo lied about few things in the tablets, and Black Zetsu altered them. There would be no reason for Kaguya to have flashback of being sealed by her sons or Black Zetsu stating what he recorded.

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