1 Tomoe Misconceptions

[UndyingFlame]

Even if it has peecog its not comparable to sharingan
It surpasses in all forms of insight only and the casting of genjustu due to it's long range sight but constantly wanking as if the precog is comparable to sharing isn't it a bit of overkill?

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

And yet they're the strongest of Konoha's clans.

Is that why Uchiha fans were so upset when Shikadai confirmed Byakugan precognition?

who was upset exactly? :lol give them all the precog in the world and they still fall short. One PS sweep can knock down the whole clan. what is there to be upset about?

 

[WalksInShadows]

ninjas in the thread have resorted to playing Mickey Mouse games by pushing strawman arguments like "it's impossible because no 1T Sharingan user was seen doing it before" as proof

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[Made in Heaven]

who was upset exactly? :lol give them all the precog in the world and they still fall short. One PS sweep can knock down the whole clan. what is there to be upset about?

Uchiha stans like Dubious and Brady have been denying Byakugan precognition for months now and suddenly are trying to defend 1T doing all the things it did in this episode despite both being in the anime.

 

[Chikombo]

People seem to have this idea that with each tomoe, a new ability is prescribed to the Sharingan, despite the fact that this has never been shown in the series to be true. People usually reference Sasuke's lack of genjutsu use before his Sharingan's maturity, or a lack of any genjutsu/copying use with 1 tomoe.

The Sharingan is something that matures, meaning that it gets better over time, not that it earns new abilities as time goes on. The Sharingan has prescribed abilities, and their pristine and best use is shown in the 3 Tomoe, but these abilities are not *restricted* to the 3 Tomoe.

The Sharingan has been prescribed abilities by the manga and has never been said to not be capable of genjutsu, copying, movement reading, or any of that shit until it's third stage. All of the abilities are there, and merely require training.

When Sasuke first awoke *HIS* Sharingan, his accuracy with Shuriken improved, forcing Itachi to turn around and deflect the kunai, which failed as one knocked his headband off. All of the Sharingan's abilities are provided since it's awakening, but they won't be as proficient as someone who has their third tomoe.

Merely assuming that they aren't available at 1 Tomoe out of your own convenience is just childish. The Sharingan merely becomes more precise and powerful, abilities aren't added as time goes on, merely improved.

You made the part up about Sasuke getting powers to defeat Itachi, but it's probably true.

I can't remember any manga panels that proves your overall theory, but I have always assumed that to be the case so I don't disagree with you.

I still don't understand your point with Itachi and Fugaku, I don't think you understand the character, he was in a locked position. He did the best bad thing he could, but he also said he could have tried with Sasuke convincing Fugaku. Taking Uchihas as a minority example is pretty dumb, you know that's not the case. And you said black music should begone.

 

[Jiren]

Uchiha stans like Dubious and Brady have been denying Byakugan precognition for months now and suddenly are trying to defend 1T doing all the things it did in this episode despite both being in the anime.

Difference is byakugan doesn't have precog sharingan feats. Sharingan already had these feats 1tomoe was never showcased. Sarada using copy and genjutsu but nothing was contradicted . Byakugan didn't do any sort of precog in the manga and I'm not talking about words but actions. Ten ten didn't give anything specific regarding what the byakugan perceives. We actually seen it drawn thru Sasukes eyes when his eyes evolves

 

[LordRaikage]

All Anime is filler.

Your life is filler.

 

[The Necromancer]

Your life is filler.

Can't argue with that, my dude.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Uchiha stans like Dubious and Brady have been denying Byakugan precognition for months now and suddenly are trying to defend 1T doing all the things it did in this episode despite both being in the anime.

So what's new lol.
The baykugan's precog was hinted in the original series and they still deny it and suddenly they're okay with the 1T retcon. Uchiha fans are so predictable :lol

 

[Merkel]

So God doesn't exist because I can't see him? Do you see the bullshit here?

The manga never restricted the abilities to specific stages at all. When the Sharingan was first introduced and Sasuke spoke about it's abilities, he never states that it's restricted to particular stages, just that the eye is capable of all of those abilities.

- LMAO the irony in what you have just said. You just played yourself. Is the belief of God faithfully or factually based? Faithfully lol. You are the one stating something exists as FACT, which requires proof. The request to prove something doesn't exist is actually what is 'childish' and plain unreasonable lol, it's like me telling you to prove Naruto is a genjutsu master now and saying that I'm right if you can't show me where in the manga it says he isn't (it might be true, but theres no evidence to confirm it).

-People can't say God isn't real, as that is impossible to prove but they can say they don't believe in God because it lacks evidence. That's what people are saying about your theory, they don't believe in it because it lacks evidence.

-In logical debate you typically assume that if the existence of something (in your case, the unproven existence of sharingan abilities at 1 tomoe) lacks evidence, it's not real/true.

- I agree with what you are saying about it never being stated otherwise and honestly I am inclined to agree with your theory of sharingan progression. HOWEVER, your logic is flawed. The burden of proof is actually on you to prove this, so it's not 'childish' to assume that the sharingan cannot do certain things depending on level of tomoe. So, like you, I'm basing this off of assumptions not evidence. It's cringey seeing you try and justify this all as fact.

Manga never says it can't, anime makes it happen. Yet the burden of proof is on the OP?

Lol that's cute. The only thing to ever bring up questions that are based on nothing but past assumptions about the number of tomoe and abilities is not enough proof y'all were wrong? Brady take the W, these responses been a dub

Do you have any idea how burden of proof works? And anime is filler...

 

[Ambivalence]

Uchiha stans like Dubious and Brady have been denying Byakugan precognition for months now and suddenly are trying to defend 1T doing all the things it did in this episode despite both being in the anime.

There is no Byakugan precog. :lol Just like how 1T Sarada can suddenly copy better than 3T Kakashi, lmfao.

This anime is a joke, honestly.

 

[Made in Heaven]

There is no Byakugan precog you pathetic little drones. :lol Just like how 1T Sarada can suddenly copy better than 3T Kakashi, lmfao.

This anime is a joke, honestly.

It may be a joke to you, but it doesn't change the fact that it's canon :/

 

[Ambivalence]

It may be a joke to you, but it doesn't change the fact that it's canon :/

Nope, it isn't. At least not all of it, just like how Naruto anime wasn't.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Nope, it isn't. At least not all of it, just like how Naruto anime wasn't.

The Jougan Arc was approved by Kishimoto with him personally working on it, and the Field Trip arc was referenced in the anime. so even then, Byakugan's precognition and 1T's feats are still canon. Kodachi writes the manga and supervises the anime's story and Kishimoto is given the episode scripts to look through before it's handed in. You can't get more canon than that. The writers really don't care at this point, so I don't either.