【NB Debate Tourney: Varrah vs Owarij】

[Strict]

White Rage can be countered by both Preta and Deva, so no.

Preta-Path will absorb the light, the sound and the vibration of the air? Deva-Path will repel it?
Or are you one of the one who think Nagato will achieve this before the White Rage technique unfolds out of their range? That's simply unrealistic. Above all since neither Nagato nor Jiraiya have knowledge about Kabuto's abilities since it's Manga knowledge and they were never confronted with Kabuto in Sage Mode.

I'm certain that the White Rage technique in combination with a powerful offensive technique like Muki Tensei is would completely overwhelm them. It blocked their vision and sense of hearing and paralyzed their bodies; Sasuke wasn't even able to maintain his Susanoo. If this combination kills at least one of them (let's say Jiraiya, the weaker of them), Nagato will be overwhelmed by Kabuto and Sasuke.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

White Rage is not only ninjutsu, it's chakra. It can be absorbed by Preta before it explodes.

Deva-Path will repel it?

Yes, Deva can, quite frankly, simply send it back to them.

And anyway, Sasuke will be affected by it, too.

 

[Strict]

White Rage is not only ninjutsu, it's chakra. It can be absorbed by Preta before it explodes.

Yes, Deva can, quite frankly, simply send it back to them.

And anyway, Sasuke will be affected by it, too.

Preta-Path absorbs the Ninjutsu coming at it, the White Range technique however unfolds out of their range. Whether Deva-Path will send the technique into another direction or not, the techniques effect after activating will still affect them but not Kabuto. As I said it isn't necessary to take care of Sasuke; Sasuke will need to sacrifice himself for the sake of their win. While the White Rage technique itself will not kill Sasuke but merely make him unable to fight for this period, Jiraiya and Nagato will have to face the problem of being killed during it and that could happen quite easily. After the effect of the White Rage technique dissolved, Kabuto and Sasuke will fight together against what is left from them.

 

[Fresco]

Kabuto gives a fuck on Sasuke, uses White Rage combined with Muki Tensei or bone forest. If not both, surely one of them is killed. Then, Sasuke and Kabuto will overpower the second of them.

I had thought Muki Tensei had been restricted. We don't know to what extent the technique can be used anyways. Solo forgot to put it up there lawl.

I wouldn't underestimate Owarij here either as I've already thought of some possible counters to the technique.

 

[Strict]

Muki Tensei controls all non living things, so he could potentially use all of the surroundings as a weapon. Even if restricted, Kabuto can still use the bone forest which effect will make the outcome virtually the same. Kabuto possesses several offensively strong techniques that would catch one or both of them almost doubtlessly off guard by the first usage while being under the affect of the White Rage technique. It depends on how both would be able to withstand the White Range technique and act properly to defend against further attacks but the chances seem marginal and at least one could end up being killed. With the lack of knowledge on Kabuto's abilities, they wouldn't even think about a proper counter against the techniques that are followed by the White Range technique as they'll be in a position trying to withstand the White Rage technique itself. Too bad Kabuto has full knowledge about the Rinnegan's abilities.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

So I'm facing the winner of this match? Well shit. Take your time lads.

 

[siyo]

Team two should take this.

 

[Frikid]

nagato solo :|

 

[Draegod]

This match up is bad! Real bad. Not fair to be honest. But its Varrah, anyone else i would suggest quitting. But even so you guys need to think about the match ups and not put power houses together Or put a weaker with a stronger vs 2 stronger opp...

Nagato and SM Jman???? Really????????

And Manda 1 is dead, manda 2 is a revived recreated manda 1.

 

[Bogard]

Hmm this match would be interesting to watch

 

[Solo]

And Manda 1 is dead, manda 2 is a revived recreated manda 1.

Manda II is underestimated. He wrapped around Turtle Island and brought it down.... at least flipped it.

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The original already had good durability feats.

 

[TheEvilOne]

This match up is bad! Real bad. Not fair to be honest. But its Varrah, anyone else i would suggest quitting. But even so you guys need to think about the match ups and not put power houses together Or put a weaker with a stronger vs 2 stronger opp...

Nagato and SM Jman???? Really????????

And Manda 1 is dead, manda 2 is a revived recreated manda 1.

Still better than the Sasori and Gaara vs Fodderuzu and Nidaime Mizukage.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Still better than the Sasori and Gaara vs Fodderuzu and Nidaime Mizukage.

 

[Draegod]

Manda II is underestimated. He wrapped around Turtle Island and brought it down.... at least flipped it.

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The original already had good durability feats.

I know all of that; manda 1 is dead, how can they use him? and isnt manda 2 limited?

Still better than the Sasori and Gaara vs Fodderuzu and Nidaime Mizukage.

lmao hahahaha no comment

 

[TheEvilOne]

I know all of that; manda 1 is dead, how can they use him? and isnt manda 2 limited?

Itachi is dead, but we are still using him in debates. Your argument is pointless.

 

[Blaze Release]

This match up is nicely poised.

I believe sm kabuto and 'prime' nagato are roughly equal, with perhaps nagato having the slight edge by a whisker.
This edge team two has, is balanced by the fact that jiraiya starts in base, therefore ms sasuke is slightly stronger.

Actually a very good match up, which could go either way.
I'd pay attention to this.

 

[Draegod]

Itachi is dead, but we are still using him in debates. Your argument is pointless.

YOU dont get it; Neither has ever summoned Manda 1 (sasuke had Oru DNA when he had it; hebi sasuke). Based on manga; none has ever summoned manda 1 (hebi has, not ms), and Kabuto had Manda 2 because 1 wasn't usable. Unless they state (manda 1 can be used as a spl condition), it shouldnt be used (unless they contradict them self's)

Why am i even talking to you; you dont know anything anyway.

 

[Draegod]

This match up is nicely poised.

I believe sm kabuto and 'prime' nagato are roughly equal, with perhaps nagato having the slight edge by a whisker.
This edge team two has, is balanced by the fact that jiraiya starts in base, therefore ms sasuke is slightly stronger.

Actually a very good match up, which could go either way.
I'd pay attention to this.

You do know they stated Jman can go sage mode with no time right? So basically he starts in sage mode.

 

[TheEvilOne]

YOU dont get it; Neither has ever summoned Manda 1 (sasuke had Oru DNA when he had it; hebi sasuke). Based on manga; none has ever summoned manda 1 (hebi has, not ms), and Kabuto had Manda 2 because 1 wasn't usable. Unless they state (manda 1 can be used as a spl condition), it shouldnt be used (unless they contradict them self's)

Why am i even talking to you; you dont know anything anyway.

No, you don't get it. Both Sasuke and Kabuto have contract with the snakes, this means they can summon him, even if they had never summoned him before.

 

[Draegod]

No, you don't get it. Both Sasuke and Kabuto have contract with the snakes, this means they can summon him, even if they had never summoned him before.

So minato can summon Ma and Pa because he has their contract even though never showed the feat of summoning them 2? And when has MS sasuke ever summoned a snake? We use arc characters for a reason. You dont use a past arc and use what he did in the future as a feat. With that logic sasuke can use Enton sword since it isnt a EMS tech and he can basically already use enton to its max!

So sakura vs sasori in the begining can summon the slug?

So kakashi in part 1 can use kamui (he had it when he was 14-16 fact)?

Again, you dont know how the vs is suppose to go. Unless stated specifically (as in Alive minato can use KM, or Nagato alive is in Vitality form) you cant use added feats that does not exist in that time frame character level (this one being MS sasuke)