【NB Debate Tourney: Dr.Proof vs.Negative Knight】

[Frikid]

the score is 1-3 now, even if kages votes in favour of NK, Proof still wins. Dr.Proof won.

Now, i have a question.

Samehada is a sword, it's outer body structure is used to attack/defend against sharp metallic objects and moreover it is a sword owned by one of the seven swordsman of the mist, how can it get penetrated by attacks of iron? Also, it has been shown to be fully covered by a cloth, which means, the supply of air/oxygen is blocked from samehada, yet it doesn't seem to be effected by it, so, it means it can live in without air, which shouldn't be surprising because it is a SWORD.
So even if say, somehow she got poisoned , still how would it effect her?

 

[Edo Odin]

the score is 1-3 now, even if kages votes in favour of NK, Proof still wins. Dr.Proof won.

Now, i have a question.

Samehada is a sword, it's outer body structure is used to attack/defend against sharp metallic objects and moreover it is a sword owned by one of the seven swordsman of the mist, how can it get penetrated by attacks of iron? Also, it has been shown to be fully covered by a cloth, which means, the supply of air/oxygen is blocked from samehada, yet it doesn't seem to be effected by it, so, it means it can live in without air, which shouldn't be surprising because it is a SWORD.
So even if say, somehow she got poisoned , still how would it effect her?

We'll wait a bit longer for his vote though, just to get the final score settled.

And concerning Samehada, it was shown to be wounded by an attack from Bee, meaning that it's defense can be bypassed, and it can be hurt. The cloth wouldn't be too much of a big deal, it can be breathed through. Kakashi and Kakuzu's mouths and noses were always covered for example.

 

[Vaarah]

An alternate beginning for Kisame could have secured NK's victory​

 

[Edo Odin]

An alternate beginning for Kisame could have secured NK's victory​

? :|

But yes, you're right.

 

[Frikid]

We'll wait a bit longer for his vote though, just to get the final score settled.

And concerning Samehada, it was shown to be wounded by an attack from Bee, meaning that it's defense can be bypassed, and it can be hurt. The cloth wouldn't be too much of a big deal, it can be breathed through. Kakashi and Kakuzu's mouths and noses were always covered for example.

Oh ok.

@bolded : I need to check for the manga page(or maybe you can show it) in which that happened . As far as i recall, samehada has only been hurt when itachi used katon on her.
And you are right, that kakashi/kakuzu and even zabuza have there noses covered , but still some part of their mouth have access to air and from their they have access to air but Samehada is literally completely covered with bandages.

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An alternate beginning for Kisame could have secured NK's victory​

^ I agree with this fake vaarah
If kisame went for an underground attack in starting, it would be very good .

 

[Edo Odin]

Oh ok.

@bolded : I need to check for the manga page(or maybe you can show it) in which that happened . As far as i recall, samehada has only been hurt when itachi used katon on her.
And you are right, that kakashi/kakuzu and even zabuza have there noses covered , but still some part of their mouth have access to air and from their they have access to air but Samehada is literally completely covered with bandages.

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] In the first scan you see some of her scales breaking off, and in the next you see the wound on the blade.

And well, although I do think that it would be able to breathe through the bandages, another option would be breathing through the nose on the skull on the hilt. After all, it was literally shown yelling at Bee from that end, maybe it could breathe through it too. [

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[Frikid]

Here it is. [

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] In the first scan you see some of her scales breaking off, and in the next you see the wound on the blade.

And well, although I do think that it would be able to breathe through the bandages, another option would be breathing through the nose on the skull on the hilt. After all, it was literally shown yelling at Bee from that end, maybe it could breathe through it too. [

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that was bee's lariot in bijju cloak . I doubt sasori could launch an attack of that power. And still even after such powerful attack, samehada lost few of its scales and didn't bear any serious damage. In fact, after taking such a strong hit, it was able to absorb chakra, as if nothing happened to it which further proves it endurance.

And yeah, maybe you are right, it might be able to breathe through that.

 

[Edo Odin]

that was bee's lariot in bijju cloak . I doubt sasori could launch an attack of that power. And still even after such powerful attack, samehada lost few of its scales and didn't bear any serious damage. In fact, after taking such a strong hit, it was able to absorb chakra, as if nothing happened to it which further proves it endurance.

And yeah, maybe you are right, it might be able to breathe through that.

But it showed that it can be broken through, which I believe was the whole point. You also shouldn't underestimate Sasori's Satetsu. The Satetsu Shigure managed to quite easily smash into the solid rock in the cave [

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[~Uzumaki~]

I personally believe Kisame would whoop Sasori's plastic ass. >_>

 

[Kages]

I guess I don't need to put anything too long. :|

I' vote a tie, but I guess that doesn't change much lmao. Lol

Proof wins, congrats^^

 

[Negative Knight]

A great debate proof, good luck with your next match ^^

 

[Edo Odin]

DrProof: 3...and a half, I guess ?
Negative Knight: 1 1/2

DrProof wins, congratulations.

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

An alternate beginning for Kisame could have secured NK's victory​

I agree with you I think if he would've summoned a large body of water from the start he would've had a way better chance.

 

[Draegod]

An alternate beginning for Kisame could have secured NK's victory​

Agreed... Remember when i used kisame in our debate? Maybe if he would of took a similar approach instead of playing Dr's strategy (proof made him do what he wanted the entire fight almost; as if kisame was on the defense the entire time) he could have won easily in my opinion. But he didnt.. His biggest downfall was believing everything Proof wrote instead of coming with a counter plan to evade or counter accordingly.

But they did what they did and it is what it is.