✖✖ Sasuke's Power ✖✖

[GamakichiTheUsurper]

Stopped reading after switch organs with a rock.
Sasuke lacks feats, Naruto has the upper hand for now.

Why? It seems extremely logical to me to think that he is able to do such thing. If he does not do it it is just for plot purposes.

He could also teleport just the head of someone so that the head would remain separated from the body... it would be game over for anyone not inmortal (as ★Ayatori points out).


I think that Sasuke's teleportation ability is really interesting and it might allow Sasuke to perform some amazing tricks.

Good thread.

Both are equals.

Exactly this. It would be bad writting if it were not this way.

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but Nardo > Sasky tho...

Huhu... nice attempt... you are more intelligent than this, please do not try to troll XD

 

[Jericho Senju]

Nice speculations you got there.

Exactly what I was thinking

 

[Tarinth]

I understand what you're saying about how people shouldn't be making conclusions that
are based on half information. But your speculations on why Sasuke should be the most OP
character is just that: speculations. Saying that it is plot restricting him, based on the half
descriptions of his abilities is just as bad as what people are saying now, so you come out as
being really hypocritical... just saying tho'.

 

[Flakez]

Exactly what I was thinking

And he blames the plot, smh.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

And he blames the plot, smh.

The plot has saved Naruto countless times, so of course the plot can be used for Sasuke as well.

 

[Shinato]

I understand what you're saying about how people shouldn't be making conclusions that
are based on half information. But your speculations on why Sasuke should be the most OP
character is just that: speculations. Saying that it is plot restricting him, based on the half
descriptions of his abilities is just as bad as what people are saying now, so you come out as
being really hypocritical... just saying tho'.

Then again, in order to make one believe you, you have to make them understand you. Which is why I am offering another way of speculating upon his powers using the same logic as they use. Beyond that, I am stating that the speculations that he is weak because of the limitations are taken to the extreme. People are assuming the worst, while I presented a way to speculate it as less bad, showing that if you do, the limitations will still exists but he will be the same power as Naruto. Plot restricts everyone, even Naruto so that was only something I pointed out, not said as a counter-argument for it.

 

[Shinato]

And he blames the plot, smh.

Plot affects everyone and everything in the story, I mentioned it, not to blame it, but if I hadn't then someone else would and that would cause a discussing between two other people in my thread. This way, all comments, be it negative or positive is directed towards me in some way. (Meaning my thread stay mine and I can reply to everyone, making it easier to get ideas around.)

 

[Shinato]

Nice speculations you got there.

Every theory is speculations, fans ideal of Sasuke's power so far is speculations, I am merely giving a different version of the same speculations which is accepted majorly by the community for some reason. (Its like sheep, the majority follows one, while a few doesn't.)

 

[ThePooka]

Why can't the Sasuke fanboys just accept reality? Sasuke will never be anything more than just a sidekick. Sasuke has been lucky to get so much panel time. Side characters usually get way less.

 

[Shinato]

Why can't the Sasuke fanboys just accept reality? Sasuke will never be anything more than just a sidekick. Sasuke has been lucky to get so much panel time. Side characters usually get way less.

Same as when bad trolls can't accept the reality of what they are, bad. (Placing Sasuke as a mere side character is denying the reality of it.)

 

[ThePooka]

Same as when bad trolls can't accept the reality of what they are, bad. (Placing Sasuke as a mere side character is denying the reality of it.)

I'll educate you then since you're still delusional. Every manga has a main character, and its only one main character in a manga. In this case its Naruto, and the manga is named after him to. If you're not the main character, then you are regarded as a side character. Side characters are not all the same I will admit since some are "recurring" like Sasuke.

Unless Kishimoto makes a 3rd part of the manga with Sasuke as the new main character then Sasuke is just a side character like i explained. If you are unable to handle the truth or the facts then I suggest you read another manga.

 

[Shinato]

I'll educate you then since you're still delusional. Every manga has a main character, and its only one main character in a manga. In this case its Naruto, and the manga is named after him to. If you're not the main character, then you are regarded as a side character. Side characters are not all the same I will admit since some are "recurring" like Sasuke.

Unless Kishimoto makes a 3rd part of the manga with Sasuke as the new main character then Sasuke is just a side character like i explained. If you are unable to handle the truth or the facts then I suggest you read another manga.

Mangas can only have one main character? Now who's delusional? Ever read a romance manga, or is it that you've never read a manga that has more than one main character? (Thus you say that everyone has only one, which is generalizing.) Also, last time I heard, Sasuke does get a spin-off for himself. (Though its in the same fashion as Rock Lee.) Sasuke isn't a mere side character, there are more types than; "Main character" and "Side character" in a story.

 

[Flakez]

Every theory is speculations, fans ideal of Sasuke's power so far is speculations, I am merely giving a different version of the same speculations which is accepted majorly by the community for some reason. (Its like sheep, the majority follows one, while a few doesn't.)

You're speculating that Sasuke should be the most OP character, which translates into fanboying to me.

 

[ThePooka]

Mangas can only have one main character? Now who's delusional? Ever read a romance manga, or is it that you've never read a manga that has more than one main character? (Thus you say that everyone has only one, which is generalizing.) Also, last time I heard, Sasuke does get a spin-off for himself. (Though its in the same fashion as Rock Lee.) Sasuke isn't a mere side character, there are more types than; "Main character" and "Side character" in a story.

I was unaware that I was reading a "romance manga". I assumed that the discussion was focused only on this manga which i did accurately explain. I was also unaware that I was speaking to Kishimoto directly. You still were unable to refute my explanation that the current manga, Naruto Shippuden, only has one main character which is Naruto.

I know a story has many character types, but this isn't a novel or a documentary. The item being discussed is a Shōnen manga and this manga in particular only has one main character. If you disagree then you should discuss your fanboy views with Kishimoto directly.

I was also correct in stating that if you aren't the main character then you are just a side character since this is a Shōnen manga that is being discussed and not a romance novel like you mentioned. I don't understand why its so hard to accept that Sasuke is just a well developed side character that has gained a cult like following among a few fanboys.

 

[Shinato]

You're speculating that Sasuke should be the most OP character, which translates into fanboying to me.

No, I am stating logically he should be. Being as he can kill anyone or anything as long as its not physically immortal. (Which in theory he should be able if how he explained his powers are correct.) His attack is impossible to dodge, its activated in an instant, only thing stopping him from being the most OP is limitations such as plot. Your fanboy reply is also faulty. My favorite character is Sasuke, yes though that doesn't mean I will deny facts or logic to place him above someone else. When Naruto and Sasuke met Hagoromo and after, I've stated that they are equals as facts and logic back that up. Prior to that I stated that they were either equal or that one were stronger for a time. (Like, Sage Mode Naruto and Kirin Sasuke were equal in deadliness, while Bijuu Cloak Naruto was stronger than MS Sasuke at the time before we saw EMS Sasuke.) A fanboy would deny a fact or logic to state that there favorite character was stronger.

 

[jiraiya nindo]

No, I am stating logically he should be. Being as he can kill anyone or anything as long as its not physically immortal. (Which in theory he should be able if how he explained his powers are correct.) His attack is impossible to dodge, its activated in an instant, only thing stopping him from being the most OP is limitations such as plot. Your fanboy reply is also faulty. My favorite character is Sasuke, yes though that doesn't mean I will deny facts or logic to place him above someone else. When Naruto and Sasuke met Hagoromo and after, I've stated that they are equals as facts and logic back that up. Prior to that I stated that they were either equal or that one were stronger for a time. (Like, Sage Mode Naruto and Kirin Sasuke were equal in deadliness, while Bijuu Cloak Naruto was stronger than MS Sasuke at the time before we saw EMS Sasuke.) A fanboy would deny a fact or logic to state that there favorite character was stronger.

Apparently sasuke's teleportation attacks aren't impossible to dodge since Kaguya just dodged his chidori/teleportation technique in the most recent chapter. So, I think it's fair to say that naruto is stronger than sasuke right now. I'm holding out hope that there is more to sasuke's power in a future reveal.

 

[Shinato]

I was unaware that I was reading a "romance manga". I assumed that the discussion was focused only on this manga which i did accurately explain. I was also unaware that I was speaking to Kishimoto directly. You still were unable to refute my explanation that the current manga, Naruto Shippuden, only has one main character which is Naruto.

I know a story has many character types, but this isn't a novel or a documentary. The item being discussed is a Shōnen manga and this manga in particular only has one main character. If you disagree then you should discuss your fanboy views with Kishimoto directly.

I was also correct in stating that if you aren't the main character then you are just a side character since this is a Shōnen manga that is being discussed and not a romance novel like you mentioned. I don't understand why its so hard to accept that Sasuke is just a well developed side character that has gained a cult like following among a few fanboys.

You are unaware of the discussing you started yourself? You are really delusional, now I will go ahead and quote what you said earlier. "Every manga has a main character, and its only one main character in a manga." You stated, a manga, not this manga. Which is why I commented on a romance manga or manga in general. So no, you did not accurately explain your point and if you mean you did then you are delusional. Also, there are no manga called, Naruto Shippuden in existence, that is a anime and I though we were discussing manga here. I know that the manga Naruto has one main character, but again, you stated that a manga can only have one main character in general. Though saying that Sasuke is a mere side character is still faulty, he is not a side character by definition. A side character/supporting character is there only to advance the plot, Sasuke is one of the main factors of the plot and without him the plot wouldn't be the same nor would it be going on. Same as without Naruto the plot wouldn't exist or go on.

 

[Shinato]

Apparently sasuke's teleportation attacks aren't impossible to dodge since Kaguya just dodged his chidori/teleportation technique in the most recent chapter. So, I think it's fair to say that naruto is stronger than sasuke right now. I'm holding out hope that there is more to sasuke's power in a future reveal.

She didn't dodge his teleportation, she dodged his Chidori. Meaning that she has the speed to react to a Chidori on close range, which many characters have. If Sasuke had just teleported Kaguya onto his Chidori, then she would have been hit or if he had just teleported her so that Naruto and Sasuke's hands were touching her then she would have lost instantly, but because of plot that is impossible.

 

[ThePooka]

You are unaware of the discussing you started yourself? You are really delusional, now I will go ahead and quote what you said earlier. "Every manga has a main character, and its only one main character in a manga." You stated, a manga, not this manga. Which is why I commented on a romance manga or manga in general. So no, you did not accurately explain your point and if you mean you did then you are delusional. Also, there are no manga called, Naruto Shippuden in existence, that is a anime and I though we were discussing manga here. I know that the manga Naruto has one main character, but again, you stated that a manga can only have one main character in general. Though saying that Sasuke is a mere side character is still faulty, he is not a side character by definition. A side character/supporting character is there only to advance the plot, Sasuke is one of the main factors of the plot and without him the plot wouldn't be the same nor would it be going on. Same as without Naruto the plot wouldn't exist or go on.

I was unaware that i would need to spoon feed my points to you. You also made my argument for me since you accurately described Sasukes role throughout the manga. Hes simply been a side character that has been great at advancing some of the plot points. Naruto spent over half of the manga looking for Sasuke. It's pretty clear that Sasuke was just there to advance the plot if not Naruto wouldn't have anyone to motivate him to leave the village and advance the plot.

Sasuke could have been easily written out by Kishimoto and the manga would still be the same. Naruto would still have became a god and would have saved the world like hes doing now. You seem to have missed that the story is about Naruto and not about his sidekick Sasuke.

 

[Frikid]

Nice!
check out my thread regarding the same subject as well :

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