☺/☻ Truth behind the technique Limbo [Theory]

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The Thing is, when i tried to puzzle the pieces together, i couldn't. I mean he used it on the tailed beasts and the attacks all looked instantaneous:

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But how could that be when Madara himself said it was A clone now clone(s)

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If we look deeper into it. There is only one reason why Madara can use Limbo. Why is it? its because he escaped death and took advantage of his soul.

The word "Limbo" refers to those who die and aren't assigned to heaven or hell. (Of course Kishimoto didn't dig too deep into the religious belief of it because as manga artists they have to dance around a thin line and find a way to use it without offending too much people).

The invisible world he is referring to (Limbo) Is the borderline of the afterlives. Various religions refer to it as this only they say its beneath the earth, but the fact that it is an invisible world and is referred to as Limbo by religions is proof enough.

It makes sense for Madara to be able to use Limbo because remember what his plan was:

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This is more than a coincidence that madara didn't like the idea of being an edo and wanted to return to the world of the living.

He was scheduled to be revived HOWEVER If he is an edo he cannot use Limbo. Why? because he hasn't actually been revived. Hence the English translation Impure World Reincarnation/Dead soul no jutsu. He is undead in other words. He hasn't actually officially left that dimension. In order for this to work Rinne Tensei needs to be used if your alive so regardless of weather Madara never gave Nagato the rinnengan, he wouldn't be able to use it in Edo state. In theory anyway.

The Rinnengan, manipulating nature, the cycle of life all tied together, it makes sense that he can manipulate his "Shadow" from the decisions in between and use it to escape dangerous situations. Remember If limbo is the dimension in between then it makes perfect sense since Madara himself refers to Limbo as a dimension.

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To sum it up. The fact that Madara can use Limbo and escape death with his shadow means that the shadow is actually himself in that "undecided dimension". Since he has been resurrected he has defied the laws of nature and using the Rinnengan he is able to call forth himself from Limbo to fight but only for a limited amount of time. Not having the device to bend that law(Rinnengan) will make Limbo impossible to use.

Alive Nagato could of never used it because he hadn't died yet.

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Nice theory But I disagree
coz from your theory
in order to use limbo you must die. What's point of this kinda jutsu if you can only use it after escaping death.
 

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Doesn't that mean anyone who nagato used Rinne Tensei on can use Limbo?
 

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Never thought of it like that.
 

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Doesn't that mean anyone who nagato used Rinne Tensei on can use Limbo?

Yeah IF they have rinnengan

Nice theory But I disagree
coz from your theory
in order to use limbo you must die. What's point of this kinda jutsu if you can only use it after escaping death.

Again, why do you think madara wasn't happy in edo body? How else would your shadow be in that dimension if you haven't died. Remember that dimension is the decisions of undecided fate. You can only be there if you have died. Hence why Nagato could never use it. Thank you for your input though :)

Never thought of it like that.

Glad i could shed some light on that damned jutsu
 

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Amazing Theory and I agree, Keep it up, + Repped. :)
 

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Yeah IF they have rinnengan



Again, why do you think madara wasn't happy in edo body? How else would your shadow be in that dimension if you haven't died. Remember that dimension is the decisions of undecided fate. You can only be there if you have died. Hence why Nagato could never use it. Thank you for your input though :)



Glad i could shed some light on that damned jutsu

Main reason I disagree with this theory Bcoz according it You must die in order to use limbo . What if you died and nobody revived you how a dead person can expect to be revived without reason.
@Bold: Coz Madara's plan was to revive in his original form. He was actuly shocked that things are not going according to his plan so he was just pissed

Now the other Part of shadow, I think Limbo is similar to Kamui its differnt dimension. Where a rinnegan user has a control. But differnce from kamui, That you can't slip into it but you can create a seprate version of your self.

Its more Like Devil may cry [DMC]Limbo city, If you have played, Both Limbo and Real world exist in same place but different dimensions. In DMC the one in limbo can not be sensed or seen in real world. But it can affect the real world.
 

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Main reason I disagree with this theory Bcoz according it You must die in order to use limbo . What if you died and nobody revived you how a dead person can expect to be revived without reason.
@Bold: Coz Madara's plan was to revive in his original form. He was actuly shocked that things are not going according to his plan so he was just pissed

Now the other Part of shadow, I think Limbo is similar to Kamui its different dimension. Where a rinnegan user has a control. But differnce from kamui, That you can't slip into it but you can create a seprate version of your self.

Its more Like Devil may cry [DMC]Limbo city, If you have played, Both Limbo and Real world exist in same place but different dimensions. In DMC the one in limbo can not be sensed or seen in real world. But it can affect the real world.

According to the mythology and religion you wait for judgment so you can be placed in the respective realm. if anything he was dragged back to limbo since he was supposed to be dead but got revived.

Why do you think he was pissed though?? one reason is clear, he liked fighting but the second is he knew he couldn't use Techniques like limbo because it requires the users Body and the presence of the actual Rinnengan, not an edo copy.

I was thinking it was similar to kamui but the difference is Kamui has a completely different methodical history to it and the concept is different. Kamui refers to the Gods that protect earthland and certain aspects of it. But then the only thing that can relate to difference of realm is what kamui refers to as difference of gender. Maybe that's it.

Well with rinnengan anything is possible because only people with Rinnengan Dojutsu or Sage of six path chakra can feel or see it.

YES!!! its exactly like that. Which is why its refered to as limbo (The realm inbetween)
 

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According to the mythology and religion you wait for judgment so you can be placed in the respective realm. if anything he was dragged back to limbo since he was supposed to be dead but got revived.

Why do you think he was pissed though?? one reason is clear, he liked fighting but the second is he knew he couldn't use Techniques like limbo because it requires the users Body and the presence of the actual Rinnengan, not an edo copy.

I was thinking it was similar to kamui but the difference is Kamui has a completely different methodical history to it and the concept is different. Kamui refers to the Gods that protect earthland and certain aspects of it. But then the only thing that can relate to difference of realm is what kamui refers to as difference of gender. Maybe that's it.

Well with rinnengan anything is possible because only people with Rinnengan Dojutsu or Sage of six path chakra can feel or see it.

YES!!! its exactly like that. Which is why its refered to as limbo (The realm inbetween)
Well I can agree with bold. Still I don't think a user really need to die to use limbo.

I also don't mind if
limbo is Realm between two worlds >

Now what's my actual point is that user not really need to die in order to use limbo.
let me explain why
Lets say Limbo is Realm between two worlds and Those who are dead and undecided lives there.
OK. Now Nagato used outer path and Revived lots of leaf village people. Since this techninque which goes beyond Limbo realm right. And to use this outer path user don't need to die to learn it . But he died after using it,

So when Rinnegan provide such a control to bring back dead people to life before dying. Then Limbo in which only some type of colne is needed then Why a user need to die only to use Limbo?

I am off till now. will reply you later
 
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Well I can agree with bold. Still I don't think a user really need to die to use limbo.

I also don't mind if
limbo is Realm between two worlds >

Now what's my actual point is that user not really need to die in order to use limbo.
let me explain why
Lets say Limbo is Realm between two worlds and Those who are dead and undecided lives there.
OK. Now Nagato used outer path and Revived lots of leaf village people. Since this techninque which goes beyond Limbo realm right. And to use this outer path user don't need to die to learn it . But he died after using it,

So when Rinnegan provide such a control to bring back dead people to life before dying. Then Limbo in which only some type of colne is needed then Why a user need to die only to use Limbo?

I am off till now. will reply you later

Your confusing the concepts although i understand why. Rinne tensei uses the power of the king of hell. Obvious by the name this power is linked directly to the afterlife; not necessarily hell. Limbo merely allows the rinnengan user to manipulate the shadow in limbo. The only reason why his shadow is in limbo and not hell or heaven is because he got revived so apart of him is trapped between
worlds.

Well it is a clone but its more like a Muu clone because he has basically split himself through spiritual means.
 

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Madara wad mad about his Edo body because he knew he couldn't become a Juubi jin not because of limbo...
 

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Madara wad mad about his Edo body because he knew he couldn't become a Juubi jin not because of limbo...

There were several reasons why he was pissed, im not saying limbo is the only and main reason all im saying is that Limbo can't be used in edo form. The amount of restriction put on him in edo body was why he was pissed and not being able to be juubi jin is the main one
 

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Interesting theory. Madara's Limbo ability could have been a result of him extending his life past it's limit (escaping death) while he was connected to the Gedou Statue.
 

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Interesting theory. Madara's Limbo ability could have been a result of him extending his life past it's limit (escaping death) while he was connected to the Gedou Statue.

that's plausible too. This could easily apply to the sage IF he can use
 

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There's gonna be so many op konoha villagers.
I guess now Kakashi can limbo kamui snipe.
Gaara will have it too...
New theory, naruto and sasuke will have clones of indra ans ashura in limbo.
 
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