¿ current kakashi > kakuzu ?

[EZQ]

I am asking for your opinion, since i watched naruto shippuden chapter 89 (anime) when kakahsi said that if naruto didn't save him, he would have to use kamui to beat kakuzu, that he didn't use it at the begining because he didn't want to end in a hospital, so if the old kakashi had a small chance to beat him, this new powerfull kakashi can beat kakuzu?

But lets say kakuzu is really underrated, we always forget how beast he was, it took one raikiri, one rasen shuriken and one shikamaru's atack to beat him, i mean the man confronted hashirama and he survived.
So for making this thread a little more fun, we will put 2 scenarios:

1st: kamui restricted, kakashi has to destroy all the 5 hearts to beat him (it's the same thing if i say with or with not knowledge, it would take kakashi 5 secs to realize kakuzu has 5 hearts)

2st: kamui allowed, in this scenario i say kakashi wins no diff. this is why i don't like kamui, it makes every fight boring :/ (this time kakashi has no fear of ending in a hospital, because now he can kamui a lot)

 

[Carlhens]

A difficult fight for kakashi even if he can so kamui more than two times noee

 

[Byakuya K]

the first scenario,kakashi would still win because of how much more chakra he has now but still, there would be a chance that he loses.

scenario 2. kakashi>>kakuzu imo

 

[tell it all]

If Kakashi can't use Kamui than Kakazu wins hands down

 

[Monster nagato]

could go eithere way but kakashi with no info loses other than that wins

 

[Lilvic92]

Ever since the war arc all the epic villains that were once an epic part of the series have been to reduced to those a bunch of fodders.
so I'm actually goin with Kakashi..

 

[Mudo]

I believe that Kakashi would win under both scenarios although the first one will prove to be more difficult. No doubt Kakuzu is strong, in fact, he's one of my favorites, but, ever since the war began Kakashi has been showing us some great feats that would put him above Kakuzu's skill level. So I'd have to give it to Kakashi.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

Kakuzu

 

[belikemike43]

Kakashi loses both times. Fighting Kakuzu is like fight five different people at once. He got his ass kicked once, it would happen again.

 

[HitmanSasuke23]

Kakuzu wins either way

 

[slaton02]

What can Kakashi do differently than before that would beat Kakuzu?(in the 1st scenario)

 

[WhistleBlower]

well, the kamui did save him n the others in that battle with kakazu and hidan but if kakashi and the others didnt allow kakazu to bring out the wierd blacks things then kakashi doesnt need to use kamui as their will only be one target which he can handle wiht his suiton n earth style + many other jutsu he has copied with his sharingan, remember sharingan alone allows kakashi to see through attacks

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Without Kamui Kakuzu wins hands down. 90-10 Kakuzu

With Kamui, it is more likely Kakashi wins. 70-30 Kakashi
While that percentage may seem like it should be higher it is important to know that Kakuzu still operates using all FOUR of his masks. Kakuzu has decades of expirience so it is highly likely that as Kakashi attempts a kamui the masks in the way. This is what gives Kakuzu a better chance than straight up nothing; however, Kakashi's recent ability to spam it means it is only a matter of time. Kakuzu could have a chance if he goes for a kill and not a heart take.

 

[hokutoshinken]

Thought it was obvious that Kakashi was always stronger.
He said himself that he could kill him with mangekyou despite to finish at hospital.

Current Kakashi win mid dif at best.

 

[Bogard]

The first scenario could go either way. When they fought last time, i believe Kakuzu would have win without kamui, but i think they were roughly at the same level in base, but Kakuzu had 2great advantages over Kakashi(his stamina, and the fact Kakashi had to kill him 5times). Concurrently Kakashi had 2handicaps in that fight. He had to protect Choji, Shikamaru and Ino like he promised to Tsunade, and for that reason sometimes he wasted his chakra like when he used 2Raikiris to save Choji and Shikamaru, and with the 2Raikiris he used earlier, he was already low in stamina at that moment, and that's why he was rushing from that moment.

The other handicap is in relation with the first one. Like i've said, he was low in stamina from that moment, and that had a serious effect in his fighting style. I think it's the only Kakashi fight where i've not seen Kakashi even using one Kage Bunshin(when it's his fighting style usually), and i believe that he didn't do that cuz he was already low in stamina, so in the following of the fight, it would have been really difficult for him to continue to keep up against an ennemy who has 4lives if he had to waste against half of the low chakra he had, using Kage Bunshin. what made Kakuzu overwhelm Kakashi was because of Kakashis lack of stamina(he was already rushing just after using 4raikiris), so he lost his fighting style(with little chakra, it's risky to use clones).

But like i've said, if the fight happened at that moment, kakashi would have lose against Kakuzu, but against this current one, it can go either way without Kamui(maybe Kakashi winning more times than not). Current Kakashi has shown to be able to spamm Raikiris and even variants like Raiden much more. I think he used something like 8Raikiris, 2Kage Bunshins(something that cut your chakra in half), 5Kamuis since then, but not really sure about that. Anyway like i've said, he got a great boost in stamina where i believe Kakuzu had an advantage against him before, so with a greater amount of chakra, he has more possibilities and here he finally has a chance to fight like he always does, not like last time where he couldn't use his fighting style(Kage Bunshins), without anyone to be protected. But Kakuzu is strong, that's why i believe he can win also. It can go either way in this case like i've said earlier

Second scenario though, Kakashi will obviously win. He said himself that since back then, he could have, so the current with his great improvment, with manga knowledge, his tactical feats, i have no doubt in my mind that he can pull it off, maybe mid difficulty

 

[nNoma]

Kakashi was able to deduce a lot about Kakuzu in a short amount of time. He instantly discovered that he used earth nature from the seals Kakuzu formed, and he knew how to counter most if not all of Kakuzu's other elemental attacks.

Kakashi is a good match for Kakuzu because of his vast amount of jutsu, and his multiple elemental affinities that he learned from copying with his sharingan. In the fight Kakashi had to not only dodge Hidan's attacks, but Kakuzu's elemental attacks while stepping in from time-to-time to prevent harm from coming to the rest of team 10.

This more than proves Kakashi can handle Kakuzu's attacks if he had all his attention set on him rather than, Hidan, Kakuzu's attacks, and ensuring team 10 remained unharmed.

More over, Kakashi didn't even use his Kamui in that fight. Kakashi has the abilities to take down Kakuzu high difficulty.

 

[AmaniPaz]

Kakashi wins.

 

[sasori345]

Kakashi with MS win low dificulty.



Without MS if the fight takes place anywhere except an empty place he win by taking masks 1 by 1 like jman did to defeat many pein path.

let's not forget his improvement.

-better chakra
-clone traps
-doton to go underground and takes masks by surprises
-no need to keep babysitting and fight this time

It will still be possible that Kakashi win in an empty place but very high dificulty thanks to his chakra,speed improvement and doton and clone traps which are the key.

 

[III HOKAGE III]

It's different bcuz he's fighting alone not having to worry about his comrades and savung theyre assess.

 

[hatakii kakashii]

Current Kakashi with MS win low dificulty.