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The lack of religion is shaping the Commies in China and they're becoming more and more f'ed up day by day. They have rape camps, ethnic cleansing camps and organ harvesting camps. If you want to look at a real world example. Anyway, leaning towards is good enough.

That is exactly what has happened, in the West state and religion are separate, yet the influence is there even if it is nameless. I'm only highlighting the source of the morality, and your dad is spot on. I think you're agreeing, but not sure. As for the child in essence removing religion in...

Not quite, the environment that shapes you has religious influences in it (the forebears were religiously inclined). If we were to purely remove it, we would end up with survival of the fittest, and not even atheists follow that (kind of hypocritical). Since we don't have that, we know the...

I think morals and virtues coming from a higher power are superior to those that exist without it. For example we saw what a religion less society looks like (communist countries) they were brutal, killed millions, crushed rebellion stole people's freedoms and right to proert ownership. It...