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I ised to think it was Danzo as well, then re-read the scenario for a debate a few years back. Old man Hiruzen was crocked, which is why Sasuke should've wiped out the Sarutobi as well, in a full blown fire on fire battle.

Not true, Hiruzen gained ignorance when it was too late he said let's negotiate. However, he knew it was too late and then he asked Itachi to buy them time (so they can plan an attack). And Hiruzen ordered it, not Danzo. That was a lie by Itachi trying to manipulate Sasuke.

Those orders were issued by Hiruzen, so he's evil.

Come off it, they decide everything. The Kages powers were never restricted to war time only. When Hashi was engaging in village negotiations there wasn't any war.

Yes and no. The point is they are the leaders and they are dictators. They rule the land, handle the security, declare the wars, manage the war economy, order assassinations etc. They handle the poltics and make treaties (Hashirama/Tobirama flashback). The Daimyo is just a figure head with no...

Come off it, we both know it's no difference to the Kings/Queens in name only we have across the West. However, unlike the prime minister system the Kage are dictators. The warring states aren't the applicable to the Kage system. The warring Daimyos hired ninja to expand their territory. To...

Nice fanfic, the Daimyo is a fodder with no sway or authority over the Kage. He's more of a feudal lord they consult for ceremonial purposes, but he has no sway. If any of the Kage put two fi gears up at the Daimyo they can do f'all.

The Kage are dictators, no? And no I don't think Edgesuke is better, he's still running g from the problem instead of facing it head on.

The five kage embody the broken system, and Naruto wanted to defend them. The clash of ideals was going to lead to a fight between the two.

Like the poster of the thread, I should think.