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  1. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    He's a Rinnegan(most skill/jutsu access except KKG and unique requirement skills) user and has already figured out Jigen's weakness. If not for plot nerf(using jutsu) he would've whooped him by now. Anyway, order is based off of current events. Jigen praises Sasuke, who figures him out with 3...
  2. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    We all know the eyes are strongest with their owner, lol. Had Hanabi been using them(Tenseigan) then one can only manage the devastation she would've caused. I thought she would be relevant in Boruto and we'd get a true showing, but alas. It's the reason I dropped the series apart from the...
  3. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    1. Madara. 2. Hanabi. 3. Hogaromo. 4. Kaguya. 5. Indra. 6. Hamura 7. Asura. 8. Sasuke. 9. Jigen. 10. Naruto. I mean many of them are descendants and different so shouldn't be on the list.
  4. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    Yes Kaguya's body did become the moon's core but Hogaromo did it in old age alongside Hamura. After he made the tailed beasts, all BZ account and Kaguya's flashback confirm is that Kaguya was sealed(seal her 3rd eye, you seal Kaguya) which is why she gave birth to BZ. BZ didn't though he's...
  5. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    Sorry this is where the disagreement is. Kurama is the only one who doesn't lie and is a direct witness. He pretty much confimrs Obito would survive because of the husk just like Hogaromo did. BZ is the arch liar, his words are open to interpretation and can never be absolute. As for Kaguya's...
  6. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    Maybe but I know for a fact Kurama isn't lying, he has no reason to lie. He was speaking from direct experience/witnessing. Anyway it was described as the same situation as Hogaromo which was the state he entered when only the husk remained. Yes, Hogaromo retrieved the tailed beasts by...
  7. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. The answer is simple, Kurama's is an explicit detailed account. And it's also confirmed that Obito was host of the Mezo and it was in reference to the Mezo. As for BZ's statement it should be read as my mother gave birth to me before they sealed her...
  8. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    While I agree there can be drawing errors in your scan you can still see more than one ring. That is true, however I would like to stress that you can see more than one ring in all instances. As for the Rinnegan like forehead pattern that's a religious symbol(forgot what it's called). I'm...
  9. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    Here's the thing Hogaromo and Hamura never performed the 6 paths Chibaku Tensei. Initially they sealed the 10 tails eye/power and then sealed it in Hogaromo. Kurama confirmed he was the Jin of both the beasts and the husk when the beasts were extracted from Obito(why Obito won't die). It's...
  10. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    He does describe it but I don't know about that, Kishi's left confusion everywhere. I mean at one part he makes it clear that Hogaromo and Hamura fought the Jyubi and didn't know it was Kaguya. And here he makes it imply he had intimate knowledge of the IT. Having said that he could've heard...
  11. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    Hogaromo never undid the IT except in filler, they only fought Jyubi Kaguya who was after their chakra. So I doubt he needed the Rinnegan at that point. They could be been born with RSM that's not much of an issue, I mean even Obito gained it after he became the Jin. He had the same one as...
  12. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    You are right in that the rings aren't always drawn, however in the examples you've provided there's more than one ring. The one I posted has just one ring or the standard eye ring. Here BZ notes that both Madara and Hogaromo awakened the Rinnegan. In otherwords there was a time Hogaromo...
  13. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    This one Look at Hogaromo's eyes, Hamura's also at the same level or lesser than this Hogaromo. Mind you they also fought the beast form of the Jyubi(weakest non jin form). It also adds credence to the argument that Hogaromo awoke the Rinnegan, had normal eyes and likely progressed it from...
  14. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    I think they hype things up quite some, which is why I don't take youtube D riders seriously. I suppose they're catering to their subscribers. Anybody with a camera or mic can become an authority on youtube, however once claims are put up to scrutiny they easily fall apart?
  15. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    I have brief notes and guidelines for questionable choices. Generally feats, assumed unnerfed feats(scaled up), claims from reliable sources and statements of praise. Only some delusional fanboys or retards believe Kaguya gets beaten by Momoshiki. Especially the 3rd eye chakra fruit eye. I've...
  16. salamander uchiha

    Rank the Otsutsuki and other top tiers

    The list is based on statements, observations and understanding of characters. My unbiased version. 1. Madara(Unnerfed JJ he has kaguya+Hogaromo+brains). 2. Kaguya(Jyubi). 3. Hogaromo(JJ - it's powersource the rinne sharingan was sealed). 4. Madara (double Rinnegan - Hogaromo said he achieved...
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