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Lol coming from the troll of the base it’s hilarious 1571377352 The warlords and the ssg didn’t exist at the same time but no the marines needed external help to even the yonko was my point. The full might of the WG is unknown but we know the marines are weaker as a unit compared to the...

Yea that point is that the military forces of the yonko are superior to the marines alone. Whitebeard at that point was still in better shape to defend himself, the point is akainu underperformed for someone with so many advantages. akainu wasn’t attacking luffy and he was told wb was behind...

My take on it is all 4 emperors = marines + warlords I’m not discussing doffy here so I’ll leave that part If anyone got a free hit on wb vs Akainu, it’s akainu he got a free hit right after a heart attack, it’s not guarantee he would have killed him if akainu kept attacking. Second akainu...

the chapter I am talking about is 432 where garp talks about the need to have the warlords to have a balance in power against the yonkos Well the thing is fujitora gaining power is not guaranteed and even the other admirals are not as hyped as the yonko. let’s not act like white beard wasn’t...

I mean the collective yonko being over the marines is obvious by what garp and brannew said. so in terms of admirals vs yonko in a 1 v 1. It seems like oda has made it clear even among the top tiers some are above others. When I say that I don’t mean extreme diff fights. We have seen that Garp...

Which conclusion are you referring to? Yonko > admirals Or the power balance between the marines and the collective yonko

I really want to see the people who claim one yonko crew = all marines + warlords. it was never claimed in this thread. The collective yonko(all 4) are stronger than marines alone is the point that was discussed. Also marines are at a disadvantage not that they are weak, they have to...

the balance is them allied = the yonko that is the balance garp literally said in the manga, you have to find the proof otherwise boy. he didnt say they are all equal. there is no use of the word advantage, he said balance. no i am literally going by what garp said and what was reinforced by...

i never said that one yonko = hq + warlords. my statement: " they act together to limit the yonko, this is supported by the war against white beard" but what you took was that me trying highlight wb pirates' performance. LMAOOO nice atleast you are consistently misinterpreting things its not a...

marineford represents who's allied with who not that one yonko = hq + warlords. that dominance means nothing especially considering the state of wb himself. i cant believe i have to explain something as basic as this. i meant if the collective yonko beat akainu and two VA's. that wouldnt prove...

Lol warped understanding of the manga seems to be your thing. All 3 groups are not equal and Garp would like to disagree with you on that. What does wb pirates performance have to do with anything, it’s only one yonko. It’s like taking akainu and two vice admirals and make them face off against...

Yeah do you need a definition of ally as well? In this context that means they are working towards a common goal which is to limit the Yonko. Lol yea balance = advantage to marines. This level of fanboyism is toxic you are directly going against what the manga has stated repeatedly. The...

Who said all factions are equal. Two of the factions are allies. Did the warlords side with WB in the war??? Again I guess we should take your word over the author who used garp and bran new as the medium to deliver that message. no stop with the mental gymnastics to try to justify your point...

Pawns??? lol the warlords are the ones benefitting the most and undermining the justice of the navy. I am not speculating, brannew and garp mentioned it. But again you want to go with your interpretation Chapter 432 is where garp literally mentioned this and so did brannew in the latest...

I am saying even after doffy was found out, Akainu did not want to abolish the system because they are not in a position of strength. And crocodile’s treason was found out way before. The Wg has a backup in SSg which is what they are putting their “faith” in. Again they are repeatedly shown to...

You say this a lot but all the chapters indicate that they want balance not an advantage. Unless the definition of balance in Japan is different, what you’re saying makes no sense. And yes they do marines technically have more top tiers and still need to hire “criminals” to counter other...

After the recent set of chapters it seems more and more evidence is pointing in the direction that admiral = yonko believed by some is false. They are close but not equal imo. Until now it’s repeated over and over again that they need the warlords to counter the yonko. Now they are hoping the...