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  1. Punk Hazard

    [Discussion] Power scaling in OP

    He mentions to Luffy that someone who's frozen can be shattered, and Jozu lost his arm because he fell down and the ice broke. If he manages to freeze BM and Kaido thoroughly enough, it could theoretically work.
  2. Punk Hazard

    [Discussion] Power scaling in OP

    We're done here lmao
  3. Punk Hazard

    [Discussion] Power scaling in OP

    No, I used those examples to show that the Admirals are capable of generating the same level/scale of offensive power as Yonko. I'd also be hard-pressed to say that Kuzan freezing Doffy's body and a few meters of the ground is on the same level as freezing miles of ocean. And I was referring to...
  4. Punk Hazard

    [Discussion] Power scaling in OP

    Akainu matching WB's power. By feats, Fujitora, Akainu, and Aokiji have all outperformed Big Mom(Aokiji instantly freezing miles of ocean, Akainu matching the power of WB's Quakes and his meteor rain, Fujitora lifting the rubble all throughout Dressrosa exceed anything BM has done).
  5. Punk Hazard

    [Discussion] Power scaling in OP

    And being allied against the Yonko can mean taking a balance of 1=1=1 and using it to establish 1+1>1. It's up to YOU to prove that this is being done to maintain equality and not advantage because the statement "there's a balance between the three" and "Two are allied against one" is STILL...
  6. Punk Hazard

    [Discussion] Power scaling in OP

    Nobody was debating that the HQ and Warlords were allied, so this is a pretty pathetic attempt to cover your ass. Garp doesn't say anything about counter. He says that the Marines are allied with the Warlords against the Yonko, and that if balance between the three is broken, disorder will...
  7. Punk Hazard

    [Discussion] Power scaling in OP

    Well, yeah, in practice, they aren't. The purpose of the Shichibukai is to be equivalent to the two, however. This is where we go back to earlier where the INTENTION behind these things is what's being discussed. You JUST tried to say that the Marineford war demonstrates your rhetoric that they...
  8. Punk Hazard

    [Discussion] Power scaling in OP

    NO boy. Balance means three groups that are equivalent to each other. One group uses the other to maintain an advantage over the third. Friendly reminder that the WB pirates were utterly dominated and decimated in this war, so that REALLY hurts your argument. No, you're taking quotes and then...
  9. Punk Hazard

    [Discussion] Power scaling in OP

    Literally the only thing they said was "We use the Warlords." YOU are the one taking added context that's not there. He actually just said they're allied against them. Yes, because why would the Marines give up an advantage? Again, this doesn't inherently mean they're using the Warlords to...
  10. Punk Hazard

    [Discussion] Power scaling in OP

    Yeah, and that's why the Shichibukai failed. If you're gonna say that the Navy's intentions behind the warlords is to tie with the Yonko, then you have to look at the idea behind the Shichibukai system, not how they ended up fucking up in practice. The IDEA behind it is what we're talking...
  11. Punk Hazard

    [Discussion] Power scaling in OP

    OR it's better to have pirates that you can use as pawns against other pirates. A scuffle with an Emperor breaks out, those are additional forces that can be sacrificed more readily than Marines, and it's the added benefit of keeping a pirate crew from running wild. That's the idea behind the...
  12. Punk Hazard

    [Discussion] Power scaling in OP

    We don't know if the Balance of the Three Powers is something the WG created, or if it's something that just happened. So to say they "want" it like it's something they desire and are trying to maintain requires more context than we have. For all we know, the WG would prefer to erase the Yonko...
  13. Punk Hazard

    [Discussion] Power scaling in OP

    Positing this only works if you're also assuming that the WG is just trying to tie with the Yonko by using the Warlords and ignoring that the Yonko's power is more than just individual. The WG using the Warlords can easily be to have an advantage over the criminals when they need it, and the...
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