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And that’s why I said I couldn’t think of anyone else till I remembered itachi later down the thread

How many strategy points get knocked off if you can unnaturally make a million clones and I can’t? Itachi and naruto have faced off, youd of lost your lunch

He has to get people in a position to be genjutsud to begin with. To end a fight while barely throwing a punch requires a strategy from the get go. To check on konoha while fending off 3 of their higher ups without killing any of them while keeping up appearances requires strategy for that...

We can argue this all day, as itachis fighting style is way more tactical than narutos, regardless of whether it’s ms spam or not, but we don’t need to do that as I can end this right now Read the bold aloud but switch out sharingan for kage bunshin and your literally talking about naruto...

No, that’s not what I said, naruto was run n gun the entire series until the Kakuzu fight. Even then his most notable moments are pain, edo raikage, and kaguya(although kaguya was straight up spam tactics, but it was kaguya). His ability to spam his kg is the only reason he learned to fight...

I think your confusing shit here. A persons tactical abilities and strategies aren’t just made plans. The way people fight in general show their general tactics and strategies. Naruto for the most part is a run in there without a plan and let his massive numbers do the talking kind of person by...

That’s the thing, itachi is hailed as Uber smart in battle, that’s why he has his rep, that’s why he makes fools of people when they encounter him. I’ll ask you this, where was narutos better tactics when they run into each other a couple times

Clone feinting people to confuse them, literally the same shit. Catching oro and deidara off base like that? Making Tom foolery of the villages highest ranking nin outside of the kage while barely throwing a punch? None of that takes smart thinking and good tactics? But naruto, he’s a genius...

So let me understand you right. Clone feint to clone feint narutos is better? Shouldn’t it be the other way around? Kakashi and itachi are able to use clone feints without resorting to spamming clones quite successfully. What “intricate” strategy has naruto used other than spamming em for confusion?

So then why downplay them for itachi?(clone feints)

I do disagree, narutos greatest tactical feats involve clones, I don’t know why clone feints only give naruto a tactical advantage when itachi clowned him, kakashi, Asuma, kurenai, Gai , kabuto, and who else with..... wait for it... clone feints.

Yea that’s kind of what I figured, lol @Naruto but denying others

That’s an odd stipulation you seem to just have made up for itachi(considering some of the other names listed you didn’t question) despite him outsmarting Dsm kabuto, but ok, I’ll play your game, give me your 5 then

Hmm, I guess we’re gonna ignore a whole manga of portrayal of a superior intellect and intelligence from itachi? Did he not fight sasuke to lose only after taking oro from him? Did he not immediately go to the source of the edo tensei? Did he not orchestrate damn near ever interaction he has...

Shit I forgot itachi

He was a kage, a sensor, and created one of the most diabolical jutsus ever, as well as pioneered a few more, he was smart enough to know they wouldn’tve gotten away with more casualties if he didn’t take the fall, the manga portrays him as very intelligent. Plus I mean... i really couldn’t...

Not in any order but Kakashi Madara Sasuke Shikamaru Tobirama