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SERIOUS CASE OF LOGIC FALLACY definition: A fallacy is the use of invalid or otherwise faulty reasoning, or "wrong moves" in the construction of an argument lol! so you still don't get the idea of parents do you? Does that mean Minato is a Senju too since Naruto is Uzumaki and Kushina...

BIG OOOF. Wide speculation. Where's your manga scans, databook, and movie reference on that? here's mine stating Naruto's competencies. How does it feel to be dumb? Are you aware of your own stupidity? Or are you too stupid to perceive that? KEEP RUNNING BOI! YOU GOT NOTHING BUT FANFiCS...

still waiting for scans Uzumakis are Senju descendants. "ran away" nice fanfic. I moved it here so the whole Naruto can't do chakra control is there in that thread. You're the one running away. Asking for scans because you can't prove yours. 1589846352 It is 1 to 1. Toneri required...

because, unlike you, I want to be organize and not mix threads up. Also this gives you a chance to actually prove your fanfic. So get going with them scans boi

can't concentrate brings incompetency? LMAOO what? ineffective maybe. Not incompetence. I bet you don't even know that big word. Dumb people should stick to dumb things. I was liking your commitment to that. Don't use big words you don't know the use of. Be a good boi and be dumb else where...

It makes sense. Also there is a nature for their cycles. The cycle does not repeat until both transmigrants die. One is Indra cycles again, then Asura pursues. Although that could just mere speculation since I don't quite remember who is older, Madara or Hashirama. But yes, it makes sense that...

So what you're saying is you talked out of your ass?

Update: Nagato is part Senju and Uzumaki. It does not make an entire clan a Senju descendant. Asura is the Head of Ninshu. A form of chakra manipulation that links one person to another. This is used by Hagoromo and Hamura (when Hagoromo talked with Naruto and Sasuke and when Hamura talked...

It's a major plothole. Kishi just wanted Naruto to be the Rikudou Sennin (before there was Kaguya, Hagoromo and Hamura). I mean, Tsunade is alive still. Orochimaru also had tons of Hashirama cells. Kabuto perfected the body. If Orochimaru can create a swarm of Shin Uchiha, Senjus can be...

oof, because the other clans aren't on the topic there? Imagine if someone were talking and they started listing ALL of their relatives? The ****? anyways, you have Nagato being said he is a Senju descendant and not the entire clan. There goes your fanfic. You forget that there is no more...

That's your stance.. I understand and that's not what we are arguing. We know that Naruto gets good later on. your friend on the other hand was too much in his head canon that he just blatantly says he sucks We refuted, we gave facts. He ignored. He asked for more facts, now it is given, yet...

backtracking? BTW what's with the straw man argument? The main point was to prove Naruto sucks at chakra control? you brought up Madara and him "absorbing" senjutsu. we said: No! Hashirama is using senjutsu. Now you are still trying to divert the discussion. You friend says: Naruto sucks...

where? find me one is it Nagato? cuz... man, idk what to tell you, you can have more than 2 clan lineage you know? Like that's how non-incest families work. Also you only have ONE.. One that is referred to as a Senju descendant. Good luck with proving your case XD Pathetic weak evidence...

Nice but it is futile when it comes to salamander. He's a bit daft and a fanatic. You know how those people are. I still have high hopes for minamoto though. I've had some discussions with him before. He was logical then. I think he is trying hard to defend his dumb friend though. 1589839850...

Segway, irrelevant. IDK why you're so focused on this shit TBH. yes, absorbing isn't the same as actually learning and achieving Senjutsu. It is the same reason as Sasuke not learning senjutsu. Sasuke was bit by Oro. How the **** is that similar to training with the Toad Sages? Madara...

What's with the segwey? "absorbing" first off, Madara took a long time to awaken the Rinnegan. He ate Hashirama's body and cultivated it. He combined himself with his DNA + had the Gedo Mazou helping him through the process. THIS TOOK A LONG TIME! His 2nd coming revival, the body of his Edo...

Madara didn't do shit when it came to learning senjutsu. WTF are you talking about? He just ate Hashirama. His body was created from Hashirama cells? Of course he naturally can control it since it is Hashirama's tech and Hashirama's body.. ??? Naruto subdued Kurama in case you've...

as if I'm gonna even get any noteworthy response from you. Still waiting on your manga facts about "Naruto sucks at chakra control" and "Uzumaki is a Senju branch" Stay in fanfic land and make sure you tag me in things that you post so I won't have to come across it by chance. I want to laugh...

hmm last time I checked, you required manga facts, not fan fics.. IDK why you're giving me those.. also how brave of you to use "deflection and 2nd rate post" XDDD anyone that reads your shit will call BS and call on your shit. you 3rd rate fanfic hack Yet you keep forgetting Kurama...

Where's your proof that he DOES suck? Listen pal, you've already backtracked. First: "Naruto is shit and that's why he needs a clone to rasengan" Now its "where's your manga facts" Then now its "but that's the war arc" To "oh shit, I'm getting called out, time to change subjects, where's...